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Have finally left, but we're now terrified.

197 replies

phoyah · 23/04/2023 06:51

On Friday morning my husband hit our daughter (15), in front of our son (13). It wasn't the first time. It was just before school, there was the usual banter between them, it got out of control, with it descending into violence. He cornered her, announced he was going to smack her, then did. She was crying, shouting, "move away from me, step back!" I felt unable to intervene. I have experienced his temper for 22 years. Although he's never laid a finger on me, I have had over half my life of gaslighting, silent treatment, just basic mind fuckery. She ran up to her room. I wasn't allowed to go up and make sure she was ok, never allowed to be a good mum because then I was defending her, "pandering to her". He went back into the front room, back in front of the computer, where he sits for most of the day talking to other fans of old TV shows and sci fi. He doesn't work. Doesn't do much housework. I caught her on the stairs as she was coming down to leave for school, she was in an awful state. I hugged her and whispered "please tell a teacher." I kissed her on the cheek and quickly stepped back as I heard him coming back out into the hallway. She left with her brother who had witnessed it all.
I went into the kitchen, I had just done all the washing up but there was his usual porridge bowl left in the sink. I couldn't bring up what had just happened so I asked him if he could please just wash it up quickly as I'd just done everything else. "No," he said, "I don't see the point of washing one thing. I'll do it when there's more to do, when there's a few items." I wash up as I go, so it rarely builds up. I asked again, stating that it'd only take 20 seconds to do. "I'm not wasting washing up liquid on one thing." So, I told him to use the washing up sponge as there is washing up liquid in it, as I'd just used it. He replied, "I don't like the feel of the sponge in my hands."
I know he'd just physically assaulted our daughter, and now making excuses as to why he can't wash up his own bowl. I've had this shit throughout our whole marriage. His emotional abuse which has started to turn into physical abuse. His excuses as to why he can't do anything, even when I ask.
I went upstairs to be away from him and to put washing away, he followed me up. Almost as if he knew he'd done something wrong and needed to talk to me to justify it.
"She's a fucking lunatic, isn't she!" He huffed at me, whilst wearing a fleece blanket as a cape. He was wearing a dressing gown in the house up until last week but can't wear it now because he has regenerated. (I know this sounds mad, he has Asperger's and wears everything in order, his year is split up into four sets of 13, he will wear a certain set of clothes for 13 weeks, then "regenerate" - like doctor who - and wear different stuff.... I know... Bear with me please!!)
I looked at him, fucking annoyed by the fleece blanket and all the fuckwittery it represents. "She's going to tell a teacher, we will end up with social services involved..."
"Good!" He threw his hands up and screamed "They can take her away and put her in a home! I won't have to put up with the fat cow ever again!"
From this point on I sat on the bed, with my phone on my lap, secretly filming our conversation. I have him admitting he hit her, that she "drives him to it" (classic abuser language). I stayed calm. Tried to tell him what he should have done to avoid what had just happened. He doesn't listen. He's always right.
I get a message on WhatsApp from my daughter. She can't find her head of year and can I please send an email to him. I send an email, just saying that she urgently needs to speak to him. Within half an hour she sends me another message saying she's now in the office and about to tell him.
My husband is back in front of the computer by now, typing away, wearing his blanket.
I shout in that I'm going for a walk before it rains and leave.
I drive about two minutes down the road, pull over and cry my eyes out. I only have three friends but I ring one, he tells me to come over. I spend most of the day sat with my friend and his husband. Both telling me that the police need to be involved, we need out of there. I know we do. I have a phone call from the school, asking if it's safe to talk, if I'm ok. The teacher says he's in shock, my daughter is one of the loveliest girls he's ever taught and he'd never have imagined we were going through anything like this. He says he has to report it to the police, I agree. He tells me to come to the school at the end of the day, as my daughter feels unsafe to go home. I'm interviewed by the safeguarding team, by the principal, then by MASH and a social worker. I'm finally being listened to. I finally feel supported.
I have tried in the past to escape. I've tried to apply for a council house, I was told that I was making my children and I voluntarily homeless, so I didn't qualify for one. I contacted the Samaritans, three times. I contacted women's aid. I contacted his psychotherapist, who diagnosed him, who basically told me not to expect any more from him as he has Asperger's. There was never any practical help. I felt ignored. It was my bed, I had to lie in it. I was even told once that emotional abuse is so hard to prove, if he'd only hit me there would be bruises as evidence...
I was asked if I had anywhere to go for the night. I said no. Nobody I know would be able to or even has room for us. So the school paid for our first night at a hotel, they even ordered pizza for us. I'm in total shock. Our social worker sees us into the hotel, hands me £10, makes sure we're ok, says she will be in touch again on Monday morning and leaves. We stand in that hotel room, eating pizza and crying. I ring my friend again. He offers to pay for the rest of the weekend. I find it hard to accept but I have to, we can't go home.
It's now Sunday morning. We've been here since Friday night. The kids are fine, mostly. My husband has tried to contact me twice. Once on Friday night at about 9pm, once he finally realised that we're probably not coming home and again yesterday afternoon. He left a voicemail, obviously drunk, but so sorry, he wants us all home, he hates this life, he realises what he did was wrong, please come home. I ignore it. My Son keeps repeating that his Dad deserves this, he's deserved it for a long time. "All the times he's ignored us and now he's getting it he doesn't like it!"
I'm in shock, hiding it from the kids, we left without anything. I've had to buy a few clothes and shoes for them as all they had was their uniforms. The police are meant to be speaking to him but I've no idea if they have yet. As of Friday evening the social workers couldn't get hold of the police to find out if they'd been to see him yet. We are in limbo. But we are together. My daughter keeps crying, as if she feels guilty for having caused us to lose our home. I reassure her that she did exactly the right thing. I'm not going anywhere without her.
I just don't know what's going to happen. I needed to vent, thank you if you've managed to read all this, it's very early on a Sunday morning and my brain is a bit frazzled....

OP posts:
Cc1998 · 23/04/2023 07:32

Just wanted to say how brave your daughter is for standing up and telling a teacher. That must have been really scary for her to do.

Please, please stop bringing up his Aspergers though OP. It is NOT an excuse or a reason for abuse.

Stratocumulus · 23/04/2023 07:33

Sending you and the children a massive hug.
You have done the right thing.

These early days are bound to seem like a mess but they are also the first days of your new life. Do not go back to him, just don’t.

You only have one life and now that the kids are older they can emotionally understand and support you. Keep plugging away at your first steps to independence. Never ever give up.

ThePoshUns · 23/04/2023 07:34

Well done on getting out.
If he had a shred of decency he would move out and let the 3 of you return to your house.
Who owns it?
Who pays for it?
If you're housing association they have DV support.
Have the police interviewed you and your children yet? Ring 101 and chase up what is happening.
You need to stay strong but there is a lot of support out there.
Your husband is an absolute prick by the way. Don't go back to him, your kids will never forgive you

Nicecow · 23/04/2023 07:36

Good on you, it sounds like it's been years of unhappiness. You are very brave and it sounds like you've got good support too. You will get through this Flowers

GoodChat · 23/04/2023 07:36

Will he leave the house without a fight? I assume not.

Ask the police to remove him from the property as your children aren't safe with him then. Keep talking to SS. Get all the help you can.

I'm glad you have a couple of friends you can lean on.

You're doing all the right things here. I hope you get to be safe in your home very soon Flowers

Lovebeingamummy2 · 23/04/2023 07:36

Well done for getting away OP, stay strong your doing amazing 💐💐

unsync · 23/04/2023 07:39

Well done all of you. Things will get better. What @WilkinsonM said above is what should happen. With a non mol in place, you should be able to get back home.

SeaDee · 23/04/2023 07:39

Your daughter is amazing - keep telling her this

Good luck

Mummyoflittledragon · 23/04/2023 07:41

Controlling or coercive behaviour has been reclassified. Please take a look at this from the crown prosecution service. You can report him for this abuse to you as well as the physical abuse to your dd. The police are obliged to act so hopefully there is enough evidence for him to be arrested and for you to get an occupation order.

My dd is the same age as your dd. She has been so brave. Your post also made me cry. You’re doing so well for getting your children out of there. The school has been incredible. Now that that know, your children have another level of protection. Flowers

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/controlling-or-coercive-behaviour-intimate-or-family-relationship

Controlling or Coercive Behaviour in an Intimate or Family Relationship | The Crown Prosecution Service

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/controlling-or-coercive-behaviour-intimate-or-family-relationship

alldonerightnow · 23/04/2023 07:44

Oh wow OP, as hard as this is, just wanted to say a massive 'well done!' It may not seem like it right now but this is the start of a brand new life for you all.

You say that your home is 'perfect' without him - that's such a lovely picture. I hope and trust you're able to get all you need (quickly) in order to make that perfect home a reality. You've 100% done the right thing (just in case you're having any wobbles or doubts).

Chatterboxy · 23/04/2023 07:46

You’ve done the best possible thing by getting yourself & the children out. You’ve got lots of good advice from fellow posters.
keep us all updated please.

Scotlasss · 23/04/2023 07:46

Jesus I am so sorry, you and your children are incredibly brave. Stick together, it will feel so scary now but it will all get sorted and be worth it in the long run to be free of him and safe.

tel the police everything, do not hold back. Sending you love & strength to get through this.

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 23/04/2023 07:47

You and your kids are amazing, OP.
You will all be ok.
Great advice from other posters.
Get somewhere safe.
Get help to get him out of the house, and enjoy being in a safe space.
You've got this.

caringcarer · 23/04/2023 07:47

You, your DD and DS have been incredibly brave. You are safe now. Take a deep breath. Your husband won't be able to attack you or your DC again. As your DD was physically abused I think Woman's Aid will let you stay there until it is safe for you and DC to go back home and husband not be allowed back. Block husband on phone and once you are settled start divorce proceedings. Your son is right your husband deserves all that is coming to him. His diagnosis does not give him a free pass to abuse his family. Good luck to you. On MN there will always be someone who can listen and respond.

Floppyelf · 23/04/2023 07:48

I wish nothing but the best for your family! Make a list of things but one thing you need to do is make the police complaint yourself for the abuse you suffered. You will be given a detective in charge of your case. Most forces assign domestic abuse cases to detectives. Having that connection will help you get justice for yourself, your kids and it will help with moving on. Why should the three of you not be in your own home? Make the police bail him and put bail conditions to not be in the house/ not contact the three of you. This includes using other people to contact you.

tobi21 · 23/04/2023 07:52

no advice or experience in this but you are so brave for doing this and it is the right thing for all 3 of you

trebarwith1 · 23/04/2023 07:57

Op, your lives will change and it will get so much better from now. I can almost feel everyone's relief through your words. Th8s next week is going to be tough though. Call women's aid and follow the advice in the above post re declaring homeless etc. Get a paper and pen and make a note of emergency contacts and everyone you speak too, as your brain is processing lots of information. You are all amazing and have done so well, sending love and strength to all 3 of you.

loislovesstewie · 23/04/2023 07:57

BTW local authorities have an out of hours service for people who become homeless. You could contact them for advice or to see if they will pay for you to be in temp accommodation until you can either return to the matrimonial home or whatever else can be provided. I'm surprised that the police didn't contact them as when I was on call they would phone me frequently. You have done absolutely the right thing, please don't return unless he is out of the house and suitable safeguards are in place. The perpetrator will always feel sorry when they realize they are in trouble. It won't last, it's emotional blackmail, nothing else. If you don't contact the out of hours service, contact the homeless team tomorrow, they should take an application and deal with you as a homeless family. Good luck! And have a hug from me. You are doing the right thing.

Freshlycutgrasss · 23/04/2023 07:57

Just want to say what others are saying - you are so brave & have done exactly the right thing.

Please contact agencies for support & let your friends keep helping you, they will truly want to.

Take one day at a time and be kind to yourself xx

Paperdolly · 23/04/2023 07:57

I don’t even know you but I’m so proud of the three of you for dealing with this awful situation as you have done. Keep going and you will find a better space💐

phoyah · 23/04/2023 07:57

Thank you, so much to take in. Am completely overwhelmed by everyone's support, after having put up with so much for so long.
Am never going back. He doesn't deserve us. He definitely doesn't deserve my amazing kids.
Thank you all xxxxxxx

OP posts:
AnonymousFemale2023 · 23/04/2023 08:02

Well done. You are all so brave. Things can only get better from here. It will be difficult for a while until things are sorted but you can do this! The rest of your lifes start now x

Xrays · 23/04/2023 08:15

Op you have absolutely done the right thing.

I just wanted to say - as someone who left my abusive ex when my dd (now 20) was little - be prepared for your feelings to be all over the place for the next few months. Typically abusers can be really clever and manipulative. He will try to make you feel sorry for him, that he’s changed, that be understands now what a terrible person he is blah blah. He will make you doubt yourself and think maybe if you go back things will be different- which will be an attractive prospect because for a while living somewhere else whilst everything is sorted won’t be easy. But he won’t change, you’ll go back and for a while it will be okay but he’ll slip back to his usual self.

Also - something I wish I’d done is be more open with people. I felt embarrassed and ashamed (god knows why) and I didn’t really tell anyone how awful he was. This meant people actually felt sorry for him (!!) and it would have also helped me not to dither between going back so much if people were supporting me because I’d told them the truth. Just something to keep in mind.

Snorkello · 23/04/2023 08:19

on behalf of all dc in a DV situation, I am so proud of you.

all the other posters have given amazing advice. Keep posting - we are all here for you.

rainbowstardrops · 23/04/2023 08:20

You and your daughter (and son) have absolutely done the right thing. It may seem like you have a mountain to climb but you've taken the first step, so don't look down.

As an aside, wtf is the whole clothes regeneration thing??? Confused I didn't even know it was a thing!