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I really don’t know what to do 😔

189 replies

OneHitWonder40 · 16/04/2023 12:45

I love my DP but he doesn’t seem to get on with my youngster DS who’s 12. I’ve been with my DP 2yrs and we all live together. My DP doesn’t have his own DC so was used to the quiet chilled out lifestyle and being able to do his own thing whenever.

He has been living with us for 6 months but he clashes so much with my youngest DS and just doesn’t have the patience with him. My DS is hard work and is at that age where he wants to game all the time and my DP gets so annoyed with it and ends up just going off and doing his own things rather then trying to do things as a family. I understand his frustration, but I just think my DP needs to chill out a bit and try having a bit of a laugh with my DS rather then shouting at him and going off out in a strop if he doesn’t get off his Xbox immediately.

I feel like I’m piggy in the middle as I get it in the neck from my DP about my DS.

OP posts:
WomanStanleyWoman2 · 16/04/2023 23:10

OneHitWonder40 · 16/04/2023 17:19

@GlassBunion oh don’t worry….you’ll never see any future posts on here from me. Would rather stick my head in a hornets nest then seek advice from a group of vultures who claim to be giving ‘advice’ when really they’re just getting a kick at how nasty they can be because they’re hiding behind a screen 🙄🙄

Didn’t you say this a few pages ago? Yet you’re still here…

Bunce1 · 16/04/2023 23:14

Too soon to have him move in and it is unbelievably unsettling for your son.

This has been a bad decision and it can be undone. So do that and go back to having a working relationship with your boyfriend. Not a faux family set up with your son being disciplined by the guy shagging his mum.

PeacefulPottering · 17/04/2023 00:24

I was the child disciplined by the boyfriend my Mum brought in.
I left a cup in the front room. He brought that cup to my head and said if I ever left a cup in the front room again he would smash it in my head. It's never left me. I'm an adult now and it's never left me. My Mum didn't protect or stop him. She thought he was parenting because she needed him to help pay the bills and be with her. She was petrified of being alone so she threw me under the bus. Don't be like her please.

oopswhatdoido · 17/04/2023 00:55

I wouldn't let any man come into my house and shout at my kids..my mum had a partner for 12 years from aged 12-24 and he never once got involved in arguments.

Whatsbetter · 17/04/2023 01:16

I think the only way it will work out is if you take charge of the situation. I think most households with teenage boys have the same situation with gaming. Loads have their parents together and they gaming for all sorts of reasons, to escape, because they love it, because it’s addictive, because he doesn’t want to go out with your bf. Why can’t you have a bit of an honest chat to him on his own. It may have nothing to do with the bf and you, maybe it does. I doubt he sees family time the same as you though especially at his age. That relationship will take a long time, maybe it never will be that strong. Could your bf not make an effort to have a little gaming with him, build the relationship a bit?

I do think you need to take change though of your boyfriend. He may be stepping in because you are not and he sees your frustration with your son. How do you want the gaming situation to be treated? Set some boundaries for your son. It’s your son and not his. Then sit bf down and tell him how you want it to go and that if it’s to work he needs to respect this. He may not be awful, he doesn’t have any experience and sounds overwhelmed. He may not care but at least you’ll know if he makes the effort. Make sure you are spending time with your son though in his world. Perhaps incorporate someone gaming into a day out or go play one of his games with him for a laugh.

Your son does not have to accept your boyfriend he can accept him if he wants to and that will be out of your control I’m afraid. Your bf can make this better by meeting him in his world and respecting him. At the moment your bf is in your sons space and being quite disrespectful.

LegallyFit · 17/04/2023 01:35

Hi OP

You moved your partner in after knowing him 18 months which in my opinion, is not at all too fast. If it makes you feel better, I moved in with my DH after being in a relationship for 3 months.

Your partner has effectively taken on the role of stepparent. My DH disciplines my children as it is as much his home and mine. I also discipline his son if needs be. We are both the adults and both entitled to enforce any rules or boundaries. As long as your partner isn't being abusive, then I don't see an issue there.

I think it's going to take time for your partner to adapt to his new role. He isn't used to children and I suppose it's like being thrown in the deep end. He's gone from zero kids to a pre-teen which has to be difficult. Difficult for your son too.

Does your son have any positive interaction with your partner? It's a difficult age for him too.

MrsMorrisey · 17/04/2023 04:47

He can probably see that you don't parent your child properly and gets frustrated.
You created a rod for your back allowing your son to game so much.
It affects their behaviour and now he doesn't want to do anything else because he is addicted.
It would be bother me too.

Maybe you and your son are the problem not him.

MrsMorrisey · 17/04/2023 04:50

OneHitWonder40 · 16/04/2023 15:47

Right, whilst I appreciate each and every comment…please don’t come on here and judge me from my little snippet that I have posted.

If my DP was that bad, I would have kicked his sorry arse into the ditch. Do you really think I would have him around my DC if he was? Seriously ffs 🙄
He gets frustrated with my son who will spend his whole weekend gaming if we let him, but when we try and get him off to spend family time, that’s when it all kicks off. So yes I’m as much to blame as I never really had any boundaries as my DP does.

Why do you think it’s not acceptable for the other adult in the household to discipline a child? I find this a strange comment!

why do you think it’s unacceptable for a child to be shouted at? Do you not think teachers shout at your child? Believe me they do when they’re at secondary school.

I would never, ever, EVER put my kids at any harm….so don’t you dare come on here and say that I am!!

Good points but you did make him out to be the bad guy 🤷‍♀️

Mumtobabyhavoc · 17/04/2023 05:31

fwiw
your ds is 12. Wanting to spend time gaming is not unusual. Avoiding "family" time should be telling you something.
maybe your ds resents/doesn't like your live-in bf?
maybe your bf isn't making the effort needed to create a proper relationship with your ds?
maybe this ready made family is not really wanted or just too much for him?
teachers should not be yelling at students regardless of which year the student is in (the analogy you gave). If your bf is yelling then your bf is the issue.
I think you are not seeing, or ignoring, what you ds is telling you through his actions.
Could you have a heart to heart with him? If he won't open up to you, get him a counsellor he can talk to who could also mediate for you with him.
your ds is about to be a teen. Resentment and acting out will only grow. There are too many other teen issues you will need to be present for without this.
In all honesty I'd put my child first and move the bf out. At least until things got sorted with my child.

flymeawaytothemilkyway22 · 17/04/2023 05:55

OneHitWonder40 · 16/04/2023 17:19

@GlassBunion oh don’t worry….you’ll never see any future posts on here from me. Would rather stick my head in a hornets nest then seek advice from a group of vultures who claim to be giving ‘advice’ when really they’re just getting a kick at how nasty they can be because they’re hiding behind a screen 🙄🙄

So true op . I see this way too much on mums net unfortunately. I don't think you are a bad mother at all . Any normal person would have an issue with a child they loved and cared about wanting to game all the time instead of going out as a family . If he didn't care he wouldn't be bothered if he was on his game .

I swear more than 80 percent of mumsnet are unemployed women sitting on their sofas everyday just looking for posts to pick on people . Are their lives that bad they need to be horrible to people? This is a forum for advice and help apparently .

The only advice I can give you op is all 3 of you sit down and have a talk about it . Maybe day to your son that one day on a weekend he can game and on the other he needs to come out as a family. I wish you luck ❤️

MayThe4th · 17/04/2023 05:58

These threads always baffle me. OP has moved her partner in after eighteen months and she’s told it was too soon. Yet if a woman posted here that she’d been seeing a man for six months, was 39 and wanted another baby she’d be told to tell him that they needed to get cracking.

I’m firmly of the belief that children should come first, however there is a dynamic here of stroppy pre-teen vs adult who has never had children and has suddenly been brought into a house with a stroppy pre-teen and is expected to just sit back and say nothing.

And I’m curious as to this child’s attitude. It’s entirely possible that the DP gets frustrated because of the mouthful of attitude the child gives his mother when told to come off of his games console. And while shouting may not be the answer, the idea that an adult is expected to take a step parent role in all senses but having any say in discipline is ludicrous. The step parenting board is full of posters who are expected to fetch and carry for their DSC, to always put them first, and yet God help them if they tell them off for any reason.

The reality is that this man has no experience of having children and he has chosen a bad time of childhood, the pre-teen stage, to gain that experience.

And the pre-teen is so addicted to gaming that he refuses to participate in family life unless it’s on his terms.

Let’s not create the narative that he’s gaming to escape abuse. That’s a feeble justification for his behaviour when it’s a proven fact that gaming in excess is damaging and addictive. When I rule the world in fact gaming and social media will be banned until children turn eighteen. ;)

There needs to be middle ground here.

The partner needs to develop a relationship with the pre-teen, and realise that shouting will get him nowhere, but equally the level of gaming and the attitude needs to stop.

OP is essentially piggy in the middle because she has a partner who isn’t getting on with her child, but she also has a child who has the attitude of a pre-teen and who refuses to participate in family life unless it’s on his terms.

The DS isn’t purely victim here. He’s responsible for a level of his own behaviour. This notion that a child should essentially be allowed to game all day every day and the attitude and the behaviour needs to be accepted because that’s just what pre teens do is a total cop-out and is shit parenting.

And yes, I have a 20 year old now so been there, done that.

People need to parent their children, not just say “oh well, it’s ok to game all day/eat in their bedroom/give me mouthfuls of abuse/I need to buy 10 multi packs of crisps a week and if the child has eaten them all I’m not buying enough, because … teenagers.”

OP you need to talk to your partner and discuss how to move forward. And you need to be honest with yourself and ask yourself whether you’ve actually been parenting your DS or have just put up with his behaviour for a quiet life. If the latter then it’s possible he resents your partner because he’s suddenly have a level of discipline brought in which he doesn’t feel he has to follow. Even if your partner stops shouting and you start being firmer he may blame your partner and that won’t then be his fault.

EmilyGilmoresSass · 17/04/2023 06:21

Don't blame your DP for his attitude on gaming and I'm well aware of the attitude it can give youngsters.

Also don't blame DS at all for being fucked off you've moved a man in after 18 months. Absolutely ridiculous.

LegallyFit · 17/04/2023 06:23

EmilyGilmoresSass · 17/04/2023 06:21

Don't blame your DP for his attitude on gaming and I'm well aware of the attitude it can give youngsters.

Also don't blame DS at all for being fucked off you've moved a man in after 18 months. Absolutely ridiculous.

How long is she supposed to wait to live with someone? 18 months is a long time.

EmilyGilmoresSass · 17/04/2023 06:29

LegallyFit · 17/04/2023 06:23

How long is she supposed to wait to live with someone? 18 months is a long time.

I would not move any man into my home without my child feeling fully comfortable with me doing so and long after 18 months. Especially at a delicate age like that. 18 months is not a long time at all. Especially when there is a child at an impressionable age involved.

Whatsbetter · 17/04/2023 06:34

Some children and I’ve adult friends who have done this will never not ever entertain their mums moving on with anyone. It’s simply unfair to let them dictate your lives wholeheartedly. It’s ok to move on, but that doesn’t mean it will be easy and not require lots of communication along the way and firm boundaries. No one knows the whole story. Perhaps the son is making no efforts and has no intention of doing so. She really is piggy in the middle as we all want to find connection in a relationship, it’s part of being human. If she didn’t care she wouldn’t be asking.

PloddingAlongHere · 17/04/2023 07:02

I havn't read all the comments but could he move back out? My mother met my step dad when my brother was about 10. He was 17 by the time he moved in as mam wanted to keep my brother comfortable in his own home (he was very shy). Could he take a step back untill yoir son is older?

ShipSpace · 17/04/2023 07:10

Oh, that poor, poor, young boy.

What a start in life for him, at such crucial years 😢

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 17/04/2023 08:03
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Oh, look - some posts the OP might actually like to read. All appearing in swift succession…

LegallyFit · 17/04/2023 08:17

@EmilyGilmoresSass I suppose it all depends on the individual circumstances. To me, 18 months is a long time (I had already been married 9 months by that point) but each to their own. I don't think anyone can be criticised for waiting 18 months though. She clearly took her time.

Peapodburgundybouquet · 17/04/2023 08:22

Get the adult man ‘clashing’ with your 12 year old child out of the house.

Living together is not working and the only one that will suffer is your child.

Peapodburgundybouquet · 17/04/2023 08:25

Don’t marry your slob partner, move him out, put some gaming boundaries in place for your kid, start again. If you want to work on your relationship with the slob man, you can, but while he lives in his own house @OneHitWonder40.

MarieRoseMarie · 17/04/2023 08:26

Unfortunately this is the reality of most “new partners” on MN. Desperate women, arsehole BF and abandoned children.

arethereanyleftatall · 17/04/2023 08:26

People often throw out the narrative that 'broken homes are upsetting for children'. But that's not the deal per se. Research shows that it isn't the divorce itself that affects the children, but the subsequent behaviour of the parents. Moving in a new boyfriend that your child doesn't like and trying to play happy families would be one such thing.

ShipSpace · 17/04/2023 08:39

Who ever heard of a grown adult ‘clashing’ with a 12 year old.

Framing it like that is where your problems are stemming from.

GrandIllusion · 17/04/2023 08:42

Oh dear. And this Op by the sound of it works in schools.

Instead of trying to work out what is wrong with your DS ( sounds a sensible and normal way to behave given his home life and the way he is being treated by an angry randomer).

Why doesn't the op look at the situation from the angle of why wouldn't her DS want to play happy families and spend time with an angry randomer?!

The answer is so obvious to everyone but the op.

The op cannot see that her Ds does not want to act the part of the fakey fakey Happy family on days out because it is not a happy family and the op is trying to force a narrative that he doesn't identify with.

Back off. Get to know your son.His home should be his safe haven and he is not safe from emotional abuse so he retreats into his room and the op wonders why.

Deary me. There is no getting through to op's like this unfortunately.

Her poor son.