Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Was Any one on here the OW?

211 replies

Mindovermatter247 · 13/04/2023 22:37

I always see a woman go nuts at the other women when obviously it takes 2 to tango and the men are defo not blameless, in fact sometime the Ow is a victim too, especially if they had no idea about man’s real or other life.
live always wanted to h3ar the experiences of the other woman…
did you know he was married/in a relationship? If so why did you continue affair?
how many didn’t know bloke had another life?
we always hear the males point of view, Hardly the point of view of the other person..

OP posts:
Chchchangemyname · 13/04/2023 23:42

I was. I was 26 when I met him, he was 44. It did not start as anything romantic so I don’t think I ever thought about if he was married or not and it wouldn’t have mattered as it was purely a work thing, though we worked in 2 different organisations. Of course it developed into a full on affair, I knew he was married and had a 22 year old and a 16 year old. It lasted 5 , nearly 6 years when he told me he’d never leave his wife. So I told him to go, never spoke to him again though I did walk past him once in the street. Sadly he was the love of my life. I met someone which I later realised was a rebound thing married him and it was a disaster.
I continued being the OW, spending time with him when he was available, not going out anywhere where we might be seen, not going on holidays together because I loved him. In no way was I a victim, even though he was a fair bit older than me and he was married and I wasn’t. With hindsight I’m glad we didn’t get together as I wouldn’t have wanted to make another woman unhappy. Afaik she never knew.
Im probably a horrible person and will go to hell. ☹️

HowRatherGolly · 13/04/2023 23:47

I was not the OW but almost unknowingly.

I once joined a new gym in the city I lived in back in 2015. One of the staff there was a handsome friendly man. One day he asked if he could take me out for coffee and I was flattered. He told me he was single, had 1 DD who was 2 at the time. Coffee date was made and then a second date was arranged. I got curious between these two dates so looked him up on FB. To my shock he was engaged to a woman who was battling breast cancer. I was in shock as he said he was single, but more so that he was so callous to his partner. The second date was supposed to be at his house. I told him what I had found on FB and that I was not impressed and would not be going for that second date. I didn't renew my gym membership either and went elsewhere. Later found out he had form of doing this and his partner since passed away.

palelavender · 14/04/2023 04:06

I did go out a few times with somebody who was engaged. As soon as I found out I dropped him. I should have trusted my dog who was a friendly beast but who unexpectedly tried to savage him when he dropped off a Christmas present. (My dog approved of my husband! ) I've got no idea what the engaged chap was getting out of it other than nearly being pitchforked by my father when the idiot came round to "explain". I can't understsnd why any one would want to be the OW - all you're getting is a lying cheat with child support obligations.

MrsRickAstley · 14/04/2023 04:39

The OW started a relationship when I was pregnant. There's no way she didn't know.
It really winds me up when people absolve the woman's culpability with 'he cheated, not her'. Nah she (OW in general & specifically my story) knew & they just didn't give a shit.

OW could have picked someone who was single but chose not to.

Don't get me wrong I am absolutely not laying sole blame at the OW's door, it's take two to cheat. Just saying they are not always blameless.

In my case & I suspect most others, it didn't matter who the woman was, if it wasn't her, it would have been someone else.

Ending on a positive note......they are still together and I am grateful every day that it's her he is making miserable and not me. My days are now drama & stress free. Every cloud and all that.

TheAustralian · 14/04/2023 06:03

Me too.

I was 19 he was old (60) I was young and naive.
hos wife new, the whole town new he was married but me. Two children later, I finally got the courage to leave him.
my parents think he was the victim and I took advantage of him 🙄
anywho.. the children know everything. they are well rounded adults now with great jobs and partners

I feel shame everyday for what I did. Not a single day has passed that I haven’t wished I could turn back time and ignored him that night.. wish I kept on staggering through the crowd

mnisannoyingAF · 14/04/2023 06:48

When I was 19 with someone in a relationship. He was mine first and she stole him which makes me even more gross . But I came to my senses after a couple of months. 25 years ago and I think it's why I'm so hard on people who do it/forgive it now because I'm still a bit ashamed

mnisannoyingAF · 14/04/2023 06:49

TheAustralian · 14/04/2023 06:03

Me too.

I was 19 he was old (60) I was young and naive.
hos wife new, the whole town new he was married but me. Two children later, I finally got the courage to leave him.
my parents think he was the victim and I took advantage of him 🙄
anywho.. the children know everything. they are well rounded adults now with great jobs and partners

I feel shame everyday for what I did. Not a single day has passed that I haven’t wished I could turn back time and ignored him that night.. wish I kept on staggering through the crowd

This sounds like grooming!

snitzelvoncrumb · 14/04/2023 06:52

MrsRickAstley · 14/04/2023 04:39

The OW started a relationship when I was pregnant. There's no way she didn't know.
It really winds me up when people absolve the woman's culpability with 'he cheated, not her'. Nah she (OW in general & specifically my story) knew & they just didn't give a shit.

OW could have picked someone who was single but chose not to.

Don't get me wrong I am absolutely not laying sole blame at the OW's door, it's take two to cheat. Just saying they are not always blameless.

In my case & I suspect most others, it didn't matter who the woman was, if it wasn't her, it would have been someone else.

Ending on a positive note......they are still together and I am grateful every day that it's her he is making miserable and not me. My days are now drama & stress free. Every cloud and all that.

Hugs. I know you aren’t meant to blame the ow. But I socialise with my dhs friends new wife who was the ow and destroyed my friends family. I hate her. Really hate her. When I got married her husband was in my wedding (dhs best friend) I deliberately paired him up with a very attractive single friend just the be a bitch.

barmycatmum · 14/04/2023 07:00

Yes. He was 60 and I was in my 30s. He was a spiritual leader. I studied with him and idolized him, felt pity for him because he struggled with health problems - and then gradually he swooped in. Gave me gifts and notes, and one day he kissed me.
he convinced me that his wife and he lived separate lives, and didn’t have a real marriage.

I was such a little naive idiot!

I wound up eventually knowing (through therapy) that he had broken some serious ethical rules with me, and that those rules are there for a reason - he had too much power over me.
I wound up eventually figuring out that his wife wasn’t the abusive, controlling, distant, unreachable non-wife that he had painted her to be- that he was a horribly deceitful and manipulative person.

I wrote her an apology letter in which I promised I would put my loyalty with women first, and that I wouldn’t believe a man’s story of a woman again. I’ve kept that promise. She passed away not long after that, and I am still sad that she died instead of him who so much more deserved to be the one who passed first.

so yeah. What’s the story of the other woman? In my case, a very mentally ill and wounded woman, young and naive for my age, who needed a lot of therapy to overcome the “men” damage - father and brother damage- in my psyche. Found a very much admired religious leader to listen to, thought he was a harmless gentle old man, and then made some VERY piss-poor decisions because I was flattered he’d chosen me, and also I guess I felt “rescued” somehow.

sick, to prey on a very vulnerable person. And don’t worry, I did blame myself plenty, for many many years, until therapists over the years drummed it into my head that HE was WAY out of line.

barmycatmum · 14/04/2023 07:01

Ps. Also: he resembled a garden gnome

TableFor5 · 14/04/2023 07:37

Name change check...

TableFor5 · 14/04/2023 07:47

I'm currently an OW. Not proud of it, but this is the situation I'm in.

I'm married, he is too. We both have children.
Neither of us want to be with each other in any real sense, it's largely just a sexual thing. We enjoy each other's company, we laugh a lot, but essentially when we meet up there's one thing on the agenda.

We speak / message every day, but try not to encroach too much when we know the other is with their family. If I'm with my family, I'm with them completely and not checking my phone, scurrying off to message in secret.

I can't speak for him, but for me there are very valid reasons that I cannot leave my marriage yet. I won't go into these reasons on here. When I do escape, it won't be to be with AP.

We've been seeing each other for 2 years. There's no 'endgame' in sight, we have no desire to run off into the sunset with each other.

I'm under no illusions that we're both selfish, horrid people. And yet here we are, still seeing each other.

MaverickSnoopy · 14/04/2023 08:04

To me I wasn't, but to his girlfriend I was. I went on a night out with friends and the next day had no memory of the night before. I hadn't drunk much so assumed my drink had been spiked. About a week later I started getting some messages from an unknown number asking to meet up and saying how beautiful I was. I responded trying to find out who they were, hoping it would help me work out what had happened that night. He kept saying you know who I am.

Very few messages but over several days. Then randomly got a phone call from a previously really close friend I hadn't talked to for years (just lost touch). Unknown number as she'd changed her number many years before. She asked me if I'd been talking to her boyfriend. I knew who her boyfriend was and then it clicked. It was him that had been sending the messages and I suddenly remembered meeting someone that night with his name and saying "oh my friend has a boyfriend with that name!" (quite old fashioned and therefore individual.) It's hazy but I'm pretty sure I worked out it was her boyfriend and we were talking about her and I was being friendly. I don't remember anything else about that night, or even how I got home, I don't remember giving him my number. Perhaps I asked him to pass my number onto my friend, i dont know. She was devestated and asked me lots of questions. I tried to reassure her that I wasn't interested and nothing had happened, but of course I knew to her it had because of the messages he sent and what he said (saying I was beautiful and asking to meet - he had intent although I didn't). There was nothing I could say to reassure her or make her feel better. I think possibly as we'd previously lost touch it was easier for her to shift the "blame" to me. I don't think she blamed me as such, she just saw me as the threat, which I wasn't. They're still together many years later but I've no idea whether they happy or if he's faithful.

Didgerydoo · 14/04/2023 08:53

Yes I am one now.
He is living with his wife and children 21 and 18. They have been living as housemates for years -separate rooms. They cannot afford to split as housing in our area of SW London is exorbitant. He travels a lot for work and so their arrangement is practical. They live entirely separate lives and her friends and family are in a different London borough so our paths never cross. We met through hobby and have mutual friends who we socialise with as a couple who assume he is divorced. I have met his old friends and school friends who knows their situation.
I know he won't move out of the family home and I am not asking him to as I like living alone.

dontlookback · 14/04/2023 08:55

name change check

user73 · 14/04/2023 08:58

Yes. I knew he was married. They'd only been married a couple of years and didn't have children. I was young (23) and I was completely in love. He was 25 and got married too young.

We've now been married for 25 years so I'm ok with what happened (although it was horrendous at the time and of course I'm sorry for the pain caused)

MrsJackWhicher · 14/04/2023 09:05

I was one.
He left his wife -it was s horribly time for everyone s he was so guilty and back-and-further between us for a couple of years. I was on love with him. He divorced and we married and it was never truly happy.
He had two affairs during our marriage.
We stayed married for 26 years -split and divorced last year.
He is now an embittered old man with a toxic younger gold-digging woman (mother of four and no job) and I feel sorry for him.

cattypussclaw · 14/04/2023 09:15

Yes, I was one. Work colleague, friend, who was in a relationship when I met him. Nothing between us. Girlfriend fell pregnant, he "did the right thing" and married her. We stayed (just) friends for the next ten years, me in a couple of long term relationships, him unhappy in a marriage he didn't want to be in. Can't pin down when feelings changed, but they did. Had an affair for a bit until I put my foot down and said he needed to make a choice. He chose me. He got divorced, we got married, had a child, now been together 20 years. Quite friendly with ex-wife (who is happily remarried and tells me her first marriage was a mistake), my child has two older siblings that they adore. Sometimes it works out for everyone in the end.

GidgetGirl · 14/04/2023 09:18

I had an affair in my mid-20s with a 60 year old
man that I’d met through an old job. I believed his stories of how his marriage was just for show and that he and his wife had been separated (but remained married) for years, and were living in separate wings of their very big house. He told me his wife was seeing someone else too and they had a kind open ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ agreement.

The relationship we had, which lasted about al18 months, was fantastic. I didn’t feel any guilt because of the above (we’ll come back to that..) and it felt like such an adventure. He was tall and suave and handsome and I fancied the pants off him, the sex was amazing, he was intelligent and artistically talented, and he was rich. Pure fantasy come true. I’d go with him to auctions while he was buying beautiful antiques and art, spend evenings with him at his club in Mayfair, and stayed a few nights every week in his flat in London.

I was having a whale of a time. Then one day I was sitting in a pub with my mates, and I had a phone call from a number I didn’t recognise. I stepped outside to answer it. It was her, his wife. Turns out most (but not all) of what he’d told me was bullshit. They had no such ‘arrangement’ and she wasn’t seeing anyone else, she knew about me because he’d been wilfully indiscreet, and had asked him repeatedly to stop seeing me. He’d just refused and carried on regardless, and the first I knew about it was when she called me up that evening. She was furious and threatened to turn up at my front door with a shotgun. All I could do was apologise and say I’d stop seeing him and end it, which I did.

It then got messier. He was far more invested in me than I realised and became desperate, sending me long emails telling me he loved me and couldn’t live without me. He was really losing it. The wife got in touch with me again and asked me to send him a nice email letting him down gently as it might ease his mind a bit, which I did. It didn’t really help and he ended up having a breakdown.

This was about 8 years ago and he’s recovered now, although he went on to have another brief affair with someone else and got her pregnant! Now he’s a very old dad with a young child (and two children in their 30s) and although he still occasionally spends time with his wife (they’re still married!) in their huge country house, they’re certainly not together any more. I don’t really understand the nature of their relationship these days, and it’s none of my business!

dontlookback · 14/04/2023 09:18

I was an OW over twenty years ago. It was a life-changing event. It was with a work colleague ten years older than me (I was late 30s, he was late 40s), whom I had already lusted after for over ten years at that point (he wasn't always married throughout that time, although I was). I was in a weird and emotionally abusive marriage which was almost sexless (turned out he was gay).

I fell head over heels in both love and lust with MM (looking back now he was a complete selfish shit but at the time I couldn't see it). The affair lasted three and a half years, during which time I plucked up the courage to leave H (which I should have done years earlier), when MM gave me strong signals that he was going to leave his W for me (surprise surprise he never did and I'm sure he never intended to. He and his W had small children but had an open marriage, why on earth would he give that up? I wasn't thinking straight then!).

Although it was an incredibly painful time, the good thing that came out of it was being able to leave my first marriage. (I married current H a couple of years later, still married now after 18 years).

ThisIsTrifficult · 14/04/2023 09:36

When I was young and stupid and riddled with insecurities I was the OW to a guy from uni. I knew him well and we'd been friends for a couple of years.
I knew his gf too and she was very loyal but their relationship was tempestuous.
They broke up and we got together.
Classy.

At the end of our relationship I was on the other end when he started seeing a woman we both knew from the same hobby.
She moved to our city and he started going out with 'work' more.
I phoned her after months of Spidey senses and she was seeing him. He was lying to us both about his whereabouts when with the other and he'd told her we'd split up and just living together til our rental contract ended. I don't believe she fully swallowed that garbage and knew exactly what was happening. It got a while lot messier but I eventually found my strength to leave him to his sad little life and ego strokes.
They got married, but I've recently learned they've split.

JustAnotherManicNameChange · 14/04/2023 11:57

I was the OW when I was 18. He was older and worked in a different country but visited home quite often. I met him on one of these trips,met his friends,family etc. No one said a thing. We were about a year in when I found out he had a girlfriend/fiance and I was too far gone by then. Plus stupid enough that it didn't feel "real" and what we had was real.🙄 Add in some manipulative,bullshit speeches from him and it went on for 3 years.

Ironically the relationship turned to (even more ) shit when he moved back home full time and we eventually broke up soon after .

Yes I was young and stupid, it was still shit.

affor · 14/04/2023 12:02

I was. Together for a year through his wife's pregnancy and birth of twins before he ended up having a breakdown and I tried to kill myself.

Fucking morons that we were!

Freyja25 · 14/04/2023 12:02

My DH had an EA. The OW knew full well that she was the OW. I’ve recently discovered that she was boasting to DH about being an OW with someone else’s husband, at the same time! Ewww.

Wisheverydaywasasaturday · 14/04/2023 12:16

Yes me. Worked together, I was single he was 'leaving his wife'.

When I realised he in fact was lying I stopped it and went on to marry my now DH and have a family. However we are still in contact after 10 years and he says he's still in love with me. We slept together a few years ago again, the guilt is awful. I will live with it forever. I am a terrible person I know.

Swipe left for the next trending thread