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Please help in a total dilemma ! :(

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Zoost · 16/03/2023 18:09

Some relationship advice please!! Last year my partber and i of 15 years surprise my mum with a trip 14 days disneyworld florida. My mum has had very little her whole life and no opportunity, this was a huge surprise and we were all so excited to go just the 3 of us. 2 days before we were due to travel i had a massive anxiety attack after suffering 2 years of anxiety and i completely cancelled this trip so last minute. This caused so much trauma for me and my mum in particular as she had told everyone she knew and it was a huge deal. A year on and anxiety free my partner who is diagnosed bipolar have given mum dates again end april for 2 week to put into her work for time off..unfortunately florida is off the carda now as the price has almost doubled since last year, so we had been looking at thailand. I mentioned this to my mum to see her feelings if we went asia instead, she again was exstatic, shes told a few people in work shes going asia and shes really excited. My partner and i have booked and now cancelled 3 hotels on booking.com and still have not made any flight reservations or bookings and we are due to go away in 6 weeks time. My partner and i have argued through stress now for months on where we will go and have been on every site possible looking for places to visit and book but we cannot agree on anything whether its due to price or that he now doesnt want to go to thailand after promising that we would go to thailand etc etc, basically now hes trying to say we should just go cities last minute i.e paris, amsterdam etc on a last minute escape....this is not what i wanted and not what i had promised my mum and i feel like the whole situation from last year is creeping in now again the closer we get to going. Im so anxious every single day i wake because we have nowhere booked and i spoke to my mum today and she said that she really needs to know because last year was just too stressful and she didnt even want to be here anymore when it all happened last year so last minute. Id like to go a sun holiday but my partner doesnt, he also doesnt want to book until we are off which is 6 weeks away and what if we cant get anything i really qant to have somehwere booked and set in stone but every time we talk we get so stressed out and argue and end up not speaking..this is a huge trauma for me and would have been my redemption trip to make it up to her and have an amazing time but i feel like my partner is really fighting against me here...also dont want to fall out with him and pie him off and say im going with my mum myself as i dont have the sole funds for this either unless we find a cheap 2 weeks turkey trip for the 2 of us but then ill feel terrible for him, but with him being bipolar it also plays on my anxiety if i book and he changes his mind last minute, my mum said today she wants to know as its too much trauma for her to go through again if it doesnt happen last minute. I would happily go myself but i feel like that qould end up in a relationship fail and lots and lots of annymosity in the house for the next 6 weeks before we go. Please can anyone help suggest what i should do because its really playing on my mental health now and causing me so much stress and worry on what to do. :(

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Godlovesall26 · 18/03/2023 14:17

OP is he on medications, with regular follow up (it can take tons of different medications trials).

Fwiw Im your age and bipolar and actually even have arythmia. I don’t relate to his descriptions, neither does anyone else I’ve met with stable treatment. I’d be thrilled to go on a holiday, love booking them, and I’m pretty sure I can quite well enough survive if my partner went with his mum for 2 weeks. I don’t have all these outbursts or all that, neither do the people I know, I’m sorry that isn’t bipolar, especially that was diagnosed a year ago. Triggered bipolar can make you really erratic yes, but in no way agressive and passive agressive and manipulative (there’s just no energy for that), or else he has another diagnosis alongside it.

Sorry but I agree with PP, it’s him, using whatever he can as an excuse.

I hope you can go away somewhere nice with your mum. I second peaceful locations like Malta

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Godlovesall26 · 18/03/2023 14:21

Godlovesall26 · 18/03/2023 14:17

OP is he on medications, with regular follow up (it can take tons of different medications trials).

Fwiw Im your age and bipolar and actually even have arythmia. I don’t relate to his descriptions, neither does anyone else I’ve met with stable treatment. I’d be thrilled to go on a holiday, love booking them, and I’m pretty sure I can quite well enough survive if my partner went with his mum for 2 weeks. I don’t have all these outbursts or all that, neither do the people I know, I’m sorry that isn’t bipolar, especially that was diagnosed a year ago. Triggered bipolar can make you really erratic yes, but in no way agressive and passive agressive and manipulative (there’s just no energy for that), or else he has another diagnosis alongside it.

Sorry but I agree with PP, it’s him, using whatever he can as an excuse.

I hope you can go away somewhere nice with your mum. I second peaceful locations like Malta

By triggered i don’t mean every week, it’s specific significant life events, and then your medication is modified a little to help and stabilise.

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Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:28

Hes just walked out and told me we are done, he cant unhear the word bullying he threw me the van key and told me to make money off tgat he kissed the dog and left with a tear hes took all his propanalol and quetiapine prescription with him and im acared where he will go or what he will do

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Aquamarine1029 · 18/03/2023 16:30

Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:28

Hes just walked out and told me we are done, he cant unhear the word bullying he threw me the van key and told me to make money off tgat he kissed the dog and left with a tear hes took all his propanalol and quetiapine prescription with him and im acared where he will go or what he will do

Good, I'm glad the fuckwit left. You should be too, and you should never allow him to come back. He has done this to manipulate you, you know that, right?

Change the locks.

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Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:31

Shpuld i text him and make sure hes ok im so worried now noone will know where he is or if he is ok

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Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:32

@Aquamarine1029 i feel sick he has nowhere to go and i feel like a total bastard im so scated he does something stupid my hearts racing im so worried

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Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:32

Its been just us 2 for 16 years

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category12 · 18/03/2023 16:33

If you're worried about what he'll do as in suicide, give the police a call and say he's a potential suicide risk.

The likelihood is that he's doing this for dramatic effect to bring you back to heel and frighten you, as you've had the balls to challenge him and say no to him instead of rolling over like you normally do. It's very common for abusive men to threaten self-harm.

But if he's taken his medication, it's not necessarily a bad thing - at least he can manage his condition if he's intending to stay away.

It may be him leaving would be the best thing all round.

Look after yourself and try not to freak out. x

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Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:37

@category12 thank you im just so worried and i dont want to involve the police or his parents as they dont speak and i dont know if it will trigger him even more, im stuck again i feel terrible that ive made him feel this way and seeing him upset leaving the dog which he loves so much

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BadNomad · 18/03/2023 16:37

Call the police. Let them deal with him. Don't you contact him. He's trying to manipulate and punish you. Don't play into it. Whatever he does is on him.

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Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:39

I just wanted him to listen to what i feel like when he challenges every decision i have. I dont want to put snyone out on the streets.

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BadNomad · 18/03/2023 16:41

He doesn't want to listen to you. He wants you to be quiet, stay in your box, not challenge him because you aren't important. It's all about him.

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Aquamarine1029 · 18/03/2023 16:41

Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:31

Shpuld i text him and make sure hes ok im so worried now noone will know where he is or if he is ok

NO.

DO NOT CONTACT HIM.

That is exactly what he wants you to do. This is all a game to him, op. Get him out of your life permanently.

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KettrickenSmiled · 18/03/2023 16:41

Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:31

Shpuld i text him and make sure hes ok im so worried now noone will know where he is or if he is ok

No.

You have spent years in an enmeshed & co-dependent relationship.
It is going to take you some time to heal from it.
The last thing YOU need is to continue your pattern of appeasing this man.

You are best off going to your GP, talking about your anxiety & its probable primary cause (this toxic relationship) & getting a referral to counselling.

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category12 · 18/03/2023 16:43

Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:37

@category12 thank you im just so worried and i dont want to involve the police or his parents as they dont speak and i dont know if it will trigger him even more, im stuck again i feel terrible that ive made him feel this way and seeing him upset leaving the dog which he loves so much

The probabilities are, he will be back in a few hours, or tomorrow, having thoroughly frightened you, expecting you to grateful he's come back and less likely to argue back in future.

Try to stay calm. Keep yourself occupied.

When he does come back, remember this was just a manipulation to make you shut up and back down.

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Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:46

@KettrickenSmiled im really struggling with this, i have a private councillor after last year who i can reach out to but my main worry is just if he will be ok and safe and have i overreacted have i spoken out of turn has alk this just come to head over this holiday i dont know what to think wpuld we be fine if it wasnt for this holiday i would just have went along with everything given his conditions and been happy and supportive but because this time involves my mum its came to a head and im taking mums side i dont know every emotion is hitting HARD roght now i dont know if ive done the wrong thing and if he was mentally stable enough to hear it today.

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Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:47

Im so glad i have you lot here honest to god i cannot thank you all enough for being a text away virtually !! This is the only thing giving me the strength at the moment and but im worried as we did have so much love aswell. Im so upset

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category12 · 18/03/2023 16:51

Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:46

@KettrickenSmiled im really struggling with this, i have a private councillor after last year who i can reach out to but my main worry is just if he will be ok and safe and have i overreacted have i spoken out of turn has alk this just come to head over this holiday i dont know what to think wpuld we be fine if it wasnt for this holiday i would just have went along with everything given his conditions and been happy and supportive but because this time involves my mum its came to a head and im taking mums side i dont know every emotion is hitting HARD roght now i dont know if ive done the wrong thing and if he was mentally stable enough to hear it today.

You can't and shouldn't have to live like this, where you have to do everything your partner says, and let him dictate everything for fear of him stropping off in a paddy or using his diagnosis as a weapon against you.

Poor mental health is no excuse for the way he behaves towards you and your mum. It's possible to both have a MH condition and be abusive.

You should be equal partners in life, where your needs and wants are as important as his.

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KettrickenSmiled · 18/03/2023 16:52

Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:47

Im so glad i have you lot here honest to god i cannot thank you all enough for being a text away virtually !! This is the only thing giving me the strength at the moment and but im worried as we did have so much love aswell. Im so upset

He has abused you with rage & control & fucking over your every decision for years.
He uses his mental health issues as a stick to beat you with.

You have been with him since you were very young, approx half your life, & you cannot yet see how appallingly dysfunctional your relationship is.
This is why I have been urging you to PLEASE get some counselling.
Also - get this -
www.amazon.co.uk/Why-Does-He-That-Controlling-ebook/dp/B000Q9J0RO?tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21

& be very, very prepared for this -
lonerwolf.com/hoovering/

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Aquamarine1029 · 18/03/2023 16:57

It's very sad that you don't understand that he is the reason you have such bad anxiety. It's his abuse and manipulation that's literally making you ill. You have got to pull yourself together and finally say no more of this. Get rid of him.

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FitAt50 · 18/03/2023 16:58

Your poor poor mum. Stop promising her things and then cancelling at the last minute. Flight are crazy expensive at the best of times, so why on earth did you not book your flights months ago? I also dont understand all the negitivity towards your Partner, I feel for him also.

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KettrickenSmiled · 18/03/2023 16:59

Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:46

@KettrickenSmiled im really struggling with this, i have a private councillor after last year who i can reach out to but my main worry is just if he will be ok and safe and have i overreacted have i spoken out of turn has alk this just come to head over this holiday i dont know what to think wpuld we be fine if it wasnt for this holiday i would just have went along with everything given his conditions and been happy and supportive but because this time involves my mum its came to a head and im taking mums side i dont know every emotion is hitting HARD roght now i dont know if ive done the wrong thing and if he was mentally stable enough to hear it today.

Sweetheart, my mother is Borderline, listen to me, I know what I'm on about.

i dont know what to think wpuld we be fine if it wasnt for this holiday
With or without the holiday, you would NOT have been fine.
You have never been fine.
If it wasn;t this holiday, he would have found something else to confuse & undermine & contradict you about.

Read @category12's post just above again - he uses his MH to control & abuse you with.

but my main worry is just if he will be ok and safe
YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HIM.
You need to look after YOURSELF.
He has been controlling you for years & this performative walk-out was just another piece of control.
Mark my words he will try to walk back in at some point & engineer more drama.

Can you go & stay with your mum for a few days?

i dont know if ive done the wrong thing and if he was mentally stable enough to hear it today.
He has Borderline. He is NEVER going to be mentally stable enough to hear it.
Does that mean you have to sacrifice the rest of your life to his horrible treatment of you?

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KettrickenSmiled · 18/03/2023 17:02

Zoost · 18/03/2023 16:32

@Aquamarine1029 i feel sick he has nowhere to go and i feel like a total bastard im so scated he does something stupid my hearts racing im so worried

This is because you are still suffering the effects of 16 years co-dependency.

He will have a medical team, or even an out of hours GP he can call if he needs help.

You are also suffering from the effects of FOG - Fear, Obligation & Guilt - which are usually present in abusive relationships with Cluster-B personality disordered individuals.
outofthefog.website/toolbox-intro

Please, please, book in with your counsellor asap & start taking care of YOU.

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neilyoungismyhero · 18/03/2023 17:02

At this rate a cheap all Inc. Holiday to Spain/Italy/anywhere is looking favourite...I'm sure your Mum would love the break with you wherever you go. Take all the stress out of booking these exotic and unrealistic expensive options just click on one button and its all done...give your partner the opportunity to go and if he declines, it's on him, his choice.

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KettrickenSmiled · 18/03/2023 17:03

FitAt50 · 18/03/2023 16:58

Your poor poor mum. Stop promising her things and then cancelling at the last minute. Flight are crazy expensive at the best of times, so why on earth did you not book your flights months ago? I also dont understand all the negitivity towards your Partner, I feel for him also.

You could try RTFT, & then maybe getting the point?

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