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Unusual bank withdrawals all to girls names

398 replies

Toryjane · 06/03/2023 15:41

My husband does our online banking ,he was away last week and we had an issue with our bank so I logged in. I have found lots of withdrawals ,I know nothing off & they mostly have single girls names beside them ! Does anyone have any idea what they are ,my mind is racing thinking my husband has been cheating .I can’t find anything online ,I’ve posted a few examples but there at least 10 other girls names showing similar withdrawals .he already says I’m paranoid but I have caught him on dating sites ,messaging escorts in the past .I thought this behaviour was behind until I found these .

Unusual bank withdrawals all to girls names
Unusual bank withdrawals all to girls names
Unusual bank withdrawals all to girls names
OP posts:
sukiwh · 11/03/2023 10:56

Amazed that people are still saying “sorry OP this is onlyfans”. Anyone who has had access to the internet/daily mail sidebar of shame in the last 3 years is aware that onlyfans is a subscription, not multiple payments in the same day to multiple different accounts/people. OP’s husband is a paypig. No other explanation needed.

Sometimes I really do wonder whether we all the have the same internet or not. Like how can people not be aware that this is a thing? Comments about being too naive to know about this stuff are so misleading. You don’t need to be accessing the dark web or a sordid corner of the internet to know about online sex work.

Bingoisthebestnotbluey · 11/03/2023 13:15

Did op ever come back with an update

Fishingintheyemen · 11/03/2023 15:14

This thread has been hijacked by the prostitution talk when clearly op husband isn't paying for prostitutes! I agree with the paypig theory by the way.

My point about prostitution is that it helps no one getting self righteous and pious on a thread and live in some idealised world in your head, sex has always sold, whether its prostitution or nowadays online like web camming or onlyfans. If someone chooses to do this rather than go out to work 9 to 5 then all power to them if thats what they want to do.
The moral panic and demonizing, banning, just drives all this underground which doesn't help.

GrinAndVomit · 11/03/2023 15:18

Fishingintheyemen · 11/03/2023 15:14

This thread has been hijacked by the prostitution talk when clearly op husband isn't paying for prostitutes! I agree with the paypig theory by the way.

My point about prostitution is that it helps no one getting self righteous and pious on a thread and live in some idealised world in your head, sex has always sold, whether its prostitution or nowadays online like web camming or onlyfans. If someone chooses to do this rather than go out to work 9 to 5 then all power to them if thats what they want to do.
The moral panic and demonizing, banning, just drives all this underground which doesn't help.

This thread has been hijacked by the prostitution talk…

My point about prostitution is that it helps…

Make up your mind.

We’re not stupid. We can read what you’ve put. We understand your point of view.

We just disagree and despair at your lack of thinking beyond “moral panic” and “demonising”.

Can you answer any of my questions about the logistics of your proposal?

Raychelle · 11/03/2023 16:53

This definitely looks like Findom (financial domination) same as the paypig thing people have been mentioning. Either that or some sort of Cam girl show in which they up the anti and offer to do more and reveal more based on what the men are willing to pay.

ReturnOfTheMacdonalds · 11/03/2023 17:52

Fishingintheyemen · 11/03/2023 15:14

This thread has been hijacked by the prostitution talk when clearly op husband isn't paying for prostitutes! I agree with the paypig theory by the way.

My point about prostitution is that it helps no one getting self righteous and pious on a thread and live in some idealised world in your head, sex has always sold, whether its prostitution or nowadays online like web camming or onlyfans. If someone chooses to do this rather than go out to work 9 to 5 then all power to them if thats what they want to do.
The moral panic and demonizing, banning, just drives all this underground which doesn't help.

“Sex has always sold” = “Women have always been raped for cash, so it is fine.”

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/03/2023 19:05

The moral panic and demonizing, banning, just drives all this underground which doesn't help.

If you don't actually understand the argument, don't try to argue the other side. It just makes you look thick.

Moral panic my arse.

Fishingintheyemen · 12/03/2023 01:37

I despair at vacuous slogans to make one feel good about themselves but do sod all to help! We can all have some idealised vision of a utopia but sadly we have to live in the real world! My solution to prostitution here (if posters are genuinely concerned about trafficking and violence) would be legalised brothels with security and negotiated rates - which do exist elsewhere) - rather than criminalizing it and instead getting street corner prostitution of girls getting in strangers cars and trafficking - and not naively hoping it'll all go away because i disapprove of it.

I mentioned sex sells more in regard of onlyfans and web camming etc - and if these women are choosing to do this to make silly money rather than work a full time job then so be it. Its their choice! If men are dumb enough to spend stupid money behind a computer screen then more power to the women profiting off it. End of.

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/03/2023 03:38

'Girls'?

I can safely ignore you.

GrinAndVomit · 12/03/2023 06:56

Fishingintheyemen · 12/03/2023 01:37

I despair at vacuous slogans to make one feel good about themselves but do sod all to help! We can all have some idealised vision of a utopia but sadly we have to live in the real world! My solution to prostitution here (if posters are genuinely concerned about trafficking and violence) would be legalised brothels with security and negotiated rates - which do exist elsewhere) - rather than criminalizing it and instead getting street corner prostitution of girls getting in strangers cars and trafficking - and not naively hoping it'll all go away because i disapprove of it.

I mentioned sex sells more in regard of onlyfans and web camming etc - and if these women are choosing to do this to make silly money rather than work a full time job then so be it. Its their choice! If men are dumb enough to spend stupid money behind a computer screen then more power to the women profiting off it. End of.

Answer my questions on the basic logistics of legalising paid rape.

discobrain · 12/03/2023 07:16

That looks like financial domination to be, as in he gives women a lot of money as a tribute.

ReturnOfTheMacdonalds · 12/03/2023 08:37

Fishingintheyemen · 12/03/2023 01:37

I despair at vacuous slogans to make one feel good about themselves but do sod all to help! We can all have some idealised vision of a utopia but sadly we have to live in the real world! My solution to prostitution here (if posters are genuinely concerned about trafficking and violence) would be legalised brothels with security and negotiated rates - which do exist elsewhere) - rather than criminalizing it and instead getting street corner prostitution of girls getting in strangers cars and trafficking - and not naively hoping it'll all go away because i disapprove of it.

I mentioned sex sells more in regard of onlyfans and web camming etc - and if these women are choosing to do this to make silly money rather than work a full time job then so be it. Its their choice! If men are dumb enough to spend stupid money behind a computer screen then more power to the women profiting off it. End of.

I read that the average earnings for someone starting on OnlyFans is £130 a month. Someone can simply record the woman doing degrading things and upload it anywhere / expose her to people that know her. Doesn’t seem worth it. Doesn’t seem like the amazing lifestyle the Daily Mail have convinced you it is based on a few outliers who earn a lot. It all just sounds humiliating and depressing.

If you truly think this is better than working a real job, why don’t you do it?

“More power to the women” will come when men stop paying for our bodies.

maddy68 · 12/03/2023 10:02

GrinAndVomit · 12/03/2023 06:56

Answer my questions on the basic logistics of legalising paid rape.

It isnt rape. It's consensual. Stop undermining what rape is

I also live in a country where prostitution is legal. It's regulated. For hygiene, healthcare and rates of pay. It is a choice for women and men.

It seems to work well. I am friends with a lady who is very happy In her job. She enjoys it.

Not for everyone obviously but suits her.

GrinAndVomit · 12/03/2023 10:11

maddy68 · 12/03/2023 10:02

It isnt rape. It's consensual. Stop undermining what rape is

I also live in a country where prostitution is legal. It's regulated. For hygiene, healthcare and rates of pay. It is a choice for women and men.

It seems to work well. I am friends with a lady who is very happy In her job. She enjoys it.

Not for everyone obviously but suits her.

I’m not undermining what rape is.
Coerced consent is not consent.
Payment is coercion.

If the man demands a refund, has he raped her?

If the cash he uses is counterfeit, has he raped her?

If the online payment gets reversed, has he raped her?

JeannieAlogy · 12/03/2023 10:38

Lots of speculation but it seems likely that this is something for his own entertainment.
What is important is what OP finds acceptable, both morally and financially.
Hopefully enough food for thought here to help her decide what is in the best interests of herself and her children.

openingbat · 12/03/2023 10:39

I'd say more likely a scam, have you contacted the bank?

Solonge · 12/03/2023 12:54

GrinAndVomit · 12/03/2023 10:11

I’m not undermining what rape is.
Coerced consent is not consent.
Payment is coercion.

If the man demands a refund, has he raped her?

If the cash he uses is counterfeit, has he raped her?

If the online payment gets reversed, has he raped her?

Many prostitutes choose their profession for a quick financial gain. Please dont assume all women, or indeed men are coerced into sex work. There is a difference.

carriedout · 12/03/2023 13:56

Solonge · 12/03/2023 12:54

Many prostitutes choose their profession for a quick financial gain. Please dont assume all women, or indeed men are coerced into sex work. There is a difference.

Oh yes, the happy hooker myth is still strong.

gardenbeachsand · 12/03/2023 14:05

how is op? Did you find out what it was?

ReturnOfTheMacdonalds · 12/03/2023 15:11

Solonge · 12/03/2023 12:54

Many prostitutes choose their profession for a quick financial gain. Please dont assume all women, or indeed men are coerced into sex work. There is a difference.

Why isn’t anyone answering @GrinAndVomit‘s questions on this thread?

Oh wait, it’s because they literally can’t unless they admit prostitution is rape for cash.

Fishingintheyemen · 12/03/2023 16:21

Agree with the poster that continually saying 'paid rape' is actually insulting and devaluing what rape is. Stop conflating an independent sex worker who is consenually selling a service to some trafficking ring etc.. they're entirely different things. I've already said if people are genuinely concerned about trafficking and violence against sex workers legalised brothels would stamp that out, but it seems driving it underground onto the streets and encouraging trafficking by criminals is preferable or of no concern to some people, all you get are slogans about how its immoral and lets wait til men are more enlightened and in the mean time keep criminalizing it hoping it'll change.

And if you read what i said previously i did do online sex work so know a little and not just spouting rhetoric or clutching pearls. It was a means to an end and my body, my choice. You dont get to tell women what they can and can't do based on your own morals, sorry, no one is saying you have to have an onlyfans etc, and shaming women who do because personally you disagree with it is not ok.

GrinAndVomit · 12/03/2023 17:52

Ahhh @Fishingintheyemen

Come back when you can answer ANY of my previous questions.

monsteramunch · 12/03/2023 18:18

It's very telling @Fishingintheyemen that you won't answer the questions PP has repeatedly posed to you.

Hawkins003 · 12/03/2023 18:26

GrinAndVomit · 11/03/2023 06:14

It’s paid rape.
We need a huge cultural shift where we teach men that.
We can’t accept that humans will exploit other humans just because it’s difficult to tackle it.

People murder. People use slaves. Men rape. Children get molested.

Legalising these things wouldn’t make them suddenly safe or ok.

And as for the logistical implications of if it became a “legitimate business”

What happens if a man is unhappy with his service, could he expect a refund?

Would you be comfortable with women being rated on trust pilot or trip advisor?

Would you be happy with women being forced to go into this “work” if they are on jobseekers and the job centre put them forward for it?

Would you be happy for it to be included in school’s careers events?

Would you be happy with your daughter doing an apprenticeship there?

Expect more of men and put a higher value on the lives of women.

I'm not an advocate but eg only fans ect, what do you then say to the people that willingly want to of their own free agency do onlyfans ect ?

GrinAndVomit · 12/03/2023 18:34

Hawkins003 · 12/03/2023 18:26

I'm not an advocate but eg only fans ect, what do you then say to the people that willingly want to of their own free agency do onlyfans ect ?

To the women?
Nothing