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Partner unexpectedly asking for termination

187 replies

apricotloaf · 30/01/2023 05:52

Been with my partner for 6 years, very happy and thought this was my future. We had a chat and he actively encouraged me to come off my contraception. Six months later I felt so lucky to get a BFP and thought he would be also. Skip forward a week and out of the blue he's raised the question on a termination. Said he didn't realise it would happen so quickly and that he isn't sure it's what we wants. I'm absolutely heartbroken over this, feel I can't continue if I don't get 100% have his backing but also the other option leaves me hyperventilating. He said he always felt he couldn't have children so it would never happen. Apparently he always thought it was a case of see if I got pregnant and see how we felt at the time on if we carried on. I would never, ever have agreed to do that.

The issue is, I live in his home. I moved from my own home to live in his, sold my furniture and pretty much everything I own and I have nothing. Please don't lecture me. I knew at the time it was a risk but I genuinely thought this was it. I can't be with someone who thinks it's ok to take a roulette on this but how on earth do I leave? I have nowhere to go, I'm priced out of rentals and I just feel in a blink of an eye my whole life has flipped. Please can someone help me make a plan?

OP posts:
Mirabai · 30/01/2023 10:59

Wobbles don’t ask for terminations.

sianiboo · 30/01/2023 10:59

My mother also 'felt' she couldn't get pregnant...she ended up with 3 children. My father didn't actually want children at all...but my mother is also Catholic. She was pregnant within 6 months of them meeting, they 'had' to get married, hadn't even been together a year....and my father was 18, my mother 23.

He was a shit father, totally disinterested and uninvolved. Worked abroad, rarely home from the time I was 9, he waited until my younger brother was 18 and then left my mother for another woman. That was 34 years ago and I've not seen him since.

Neither myself or my two brothers have had children of our own. Even if I'd wanted children, I wouldn't have had them with a man who didn't want them at least as much as I did.

TangledWebOfDeception · 30/01/2023 10:59

I haven't read into the thread further than this bit:

Apparently he always thought it was a case of see if I got pregnant and see how we felt at the time on if we carried on. I would never, ever have agreed to do that.

Is he actually thick?? What an awful lack of emotional intelligence and understanding of the enormity of that decision for many women. Stupid, stupid man.

I absolutely couldn't stay with him after that.

I'm really sorry you're in this predicament now. I wish you strength.

NormaTheWife · 30/01/2023 11:02

apricotloaf · 30/01/2023 06:29

Thank you for everyone's responses. I wasn't expecting so many.

I'm unsure why he thought he was infertile, a mixture between gut feeling and as it hadn't happened in previous relationships thinking it wouldn't in this. I just can't understand it as this was completely lead by him,

In my mind I know I need to terminate as I can't go into this on whim. I also know I need to put something in place to leave. Im just struggling to think about putting one foot in front of the other in moving forwards with it. Can anyone advise steps to take when going for a termination?

I'm unsure why he thought he was infertile, a mixture between gut feeling and as it hadn't happened in previous relationships thinking it wouldn't in this

Are you saying he has tried to or wanted to have children before or is he is just averse to contraception?

Catlover1970 · 30/01/2023 11:03

KettrickenSmiled · 30/01/2023 09:29

Good grief Ted putting the cart before the horse there with whether your relationship could survive a termination.

The relationship is a totally separate entity to OP's personal choice to terminate - or not.

It's not about whether the relationship could survive.
It's about whether this idiot deserves to have a relationship with OP at all, no matter what she chooses to do with her own body.

Don't you think it's important to look at the whole picture? If you read OP has already talked about her relationship so to her it's important! Read her posts properly please

worstusernameeverx2 · 30/01/2023 11:03

I can't believe there are men this thick out there, and I admire your strength with this

HowcanIhelp123 · 30/01/2023 11:05

This is so awful OP. Entirely your choice whether to continue with or without him but I couldn't stay with someone who used my body like that. I think you need to make it clear terminating will also be the termination of your relationship, he is the one that's put you in this situation with his fucked up little game.

Don't feel pressured to terminate if you want this baby and feel ready to do it alone. Do what is right for you and take the fuckwit out of the equation.

tortiecat · 30/01/2023 11:08

worstusernameeverx2 · 30/01/2023 11:03

I can't believe there are men this thick out there, and I admire your strength with this

I couldn't have put this better. Flowers

reesewithoutaspoon · 30/01/2023 11:16

I think you are being very level headed about it. Continuing with the pregnancy will leave you tied to this man for life, it will affect your career, independence and long term financial outlook,
I wouldn't trust him to co-parent or even provide CSM because he has shown himself to be flaky, he will just use the excuse "Well I told you I didn't want it, you forced me to be a dad". So if you do continue with this pregnancy then you absolutely have to look at the worst-case scenario that you will be raising this child alone, without support, and only continue because it's 100% what you want and you are prepared to do that.
You are young, you have time, and you know you are fertile so this isn't your one and only chance
You chose to try for children in the belief that it would be as part of a couple with a supportive partner, that's now not the situation, He changed the goalposts, not you.

cupofdecaf · 30/01/2023 11:16

Putting aide the whole changing his mind thing.
He let you think you were trying for a baby when he thought he was infertile.
He was seriously future faking you.

FlowerArranger · 30/01/2023 11:20

Don't discuss any further. He has shown you who he is. This is him. You don't want someone like him to be your life partner, or the father of your child.

Hard as it is, terminate. Unless you are absolutely sure you want this child and are totally up for being a single mother.

Get a flatshare, or go back to your family. Anything to get away from him.

Then start rebuilding your life 💐

rhowton · 30/01/2023 11:21

This is the exact reason that you should choose to get married before having children.

You can have a termination and leave him or you can keep the baby and leave him. Either way you're in a very financially precarious situation.

Or he changes his mind, you carry on in the same life, and you push for marriage so at least you own 50% of the home.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 30/01/2023 11:22

WedonttalkaboutMaureen · 30/01/2023 10:56

@Pardon44 an early termination is unlikely to be hugely hard physically, some bleeding etc to be expected but many women cope absolutely fine and can return to work the next day etc.
Emotionally is a very individual and unique
Response too.
I'm not saying to take abortion lightly (as no woman I've ever met ever does, it's only ever men who claim women have abortions left right and centre without a care).
I'm just saying an early termination isn't necessarily arduous experience for everyone.

It wasn't physically or emotionally difficult for me. No regrets whatsoever.

billy1966 · 30/01/2023 11:28

Don't give him the chance to persuade you that he is not the utter scum he has shown himself to be.

If you can extract money from him so you can leave him easily, do it.

Don't waste your life raising a child by him, you deserve much better than having any further connection to him.

If you were my daughter I would advise terminate the pregnancy and leave him behind asap.

TangledWebOfDeception · 30/01/2023 11:28

It is physically or emotionally difficult for many women, though. It's not a decision that can be taken lightly by everyone. No judgement either way as I am firmly pro choice. But it was absolutely wrong and stupid of him to think he was going to get to make her pregnant and then they'd see, without communicating that to her.

SchoolTripDrama · 30/01/2023 11:29

@apricotloaf I've been a widow since my DD was just turned 1 and I'm telling you, the idea of being a single parent is farrrrrr, far worse than the reality. No it's not always easy but believe me, there are benefits to it. 7 years later and my DD & I have had some fun times together!

You can do this alone Flowers

PLEASE don't feel you have to have a termination just because he's not on board!!!

SchoolQuestionnaire · 30/01/2023 11:37

You've had some good advice and you seem to be far more calm and rational in this situation than I would be so I have nothing to add on that front. I just wanted to say that this man is a selfish, disgusting human being and you deserve far better.

I wish you every happiness in your future without him.Flowers

Soothsayer1 · 30/01/2023 11:41

Agree with previous posters this man is horrible and the relationship is over, he waited until you'd made sacrifices to be with him and then he pulled the rug out from under you.
You owe him nothing at all, don't tell him what you are planning to do, don't be honest with him. Be strategic make sure you keep the upper hand and get the best outcome for yourself, he deserves no consideration whatsoever.

CandlelightGlow · 30/01/2023 11:42

apricotloaf · 30/01/2023 07:14

Thank you everyone, I'm overwhelmed but the supportive and positive advice.

I'm late twenties. I do know I can continue with this if I wish, however without the backing of a supportive partner I just don't feel I can give the same quality of life to a child on my own. I'm also not naive enough to know that single parenting, and Co parenting is not easy and I'm not sure I can face going it alone from such an early point. I am very, very early into the pregnancy so time is on my side thankfully.

What I will say OP is that men and indeed women can knee jerk react like this to even planned and much wanted pregnancies.

I actually doubt if your 6 year relationship is happy, he will jump ship in the end and leave you holding the baby.

I just don't want you to make a rash decision about a termination of a wanted baby on the basis that you would 100% be doing it alone. It seems such a shame to be throwing away a happy relationship and wanted pregnancy because he's freaking out, though only you know if this is out of character or not.

SirVixofVixHall · 30/01/2023 11:47

My friend had exactly the same response from her partner when she got pregnant. She was 28 at the time, and they had been together since university. her Mum called his Mum and went nuclear, his Mum then called him and did similar, my friend continued with the pregnancy with him being generally hopeless and unsupportive. It was a really stressful time but weirdly as soon as the baby was born his attitude changed and he is a very loving father. They are still together as a couple, and have more children, the child is a young adult now.
Some men do seem to have a massive wobble, Lord knows what they are thinking when they plan a baby and stop contraception, it seems idiocy to me but I have heard of other men being the same. Maybe it doesn’t seem real to them ? Who knows.
I would find this very hard to forgive, but I suppose that depends on how he behaves from now on.

Refractory · 30/01/2023 11:55

I'm so sorry that you are going through this, no judgement.

In your shoes, I would terminate ASAP (provided this is truly what you want), cut him loose and never look back. He is not the man you want to build a family with.

Blossomtoes · 30/01/2023 12:06

It happened to me. We were married and it was a planned pregnancy which happened incredibly quickly. He went into a complete tailspin of panic and suggested a termination. As I had mixed feelings too we discussed it and decided to wait a little longer before deciding. He never mentioned it again. The baby will be 48 next month and nobody could have been a more besotted parent. A lot of people wobble.

tattygrl · 30/01/2023 12:14

cupofdecaf · 30/01/2023 11:16

Putting aide the whole changing his mind thing.
He let you think you were trying for a baby when he thought he was infertile.
He was seriously future faking you.

Wow this is a good point, I hadn't even realised this when I read the post at first. He thought he was infertile yet he was saying let's try for a baby... wow. That's chilling tbh.

Frankinsence · 30/01/2023 12:17

You have to get your ducks in a row before making any big decisions. Obviously you need to have some professional counselling regarding your decision on whether to go ahead with the pregnancy or not. On a practical level I would recommend Women's Aid/Citizen's Advice etc. Find out if you would be eligible for any housing co-ops, council housing, extra funding for rent as a single mother. Speak to single mums in your area to find out about childcare options and funding. Ask Citizen's Advice about how much money you could expect on a monthly basis from the father if you decide to have the child. You need to have as much knowledge as you can gather on the practicalities in order to make the right decision for you. Big hug. I have been through this myself.

Iamwhatiam52 · 30/01/2023 12:22

Naunet · 30/01/2023 08:05

Apparently he always thought it was a case of see if I got pregnant and see how we felt at the time on if we carried on

How fucking dare he? I’m furious on your behalf. Does he have any idea what an abortion involves? Does he think it’s a male contraception choice? Does he even see you as a human if he’s so willing to put you through something like that just to check his balls work? Stupid, selfish prick, you absolutely need to leave him.

You can call your GP to get a referral for an abortion, or go private and make him pay. I’m so sorry you’re going through this. X

this!

What an immature arsehole to think that abortion is a type of contraceptive!?! To think that "once you get pregnant we can decide what to do"?!? fuck me. What a twat. Think I would have battered him when he said that. The mental load a termination brings is crushing.

Get an appointment with your GP first and foremost and discuss the options. Best of luck OP.

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