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After 22 years together he now asks me to pay half?

345 replies

Nina55 · 16/01/2023 13:49

22 long-term relationship – unmarried 2 kids

Partner owns a house and pays bills which the 4 of us live in – often referring to this even now as his house / his bedroom verbally.

We have worked together for the last 20 years, perfectly fine, in his company. He pays me 1600 every 6 months, which I mainly being spent on kids, although I do work nearly full time, I do have lots of flexible time to move things about to suit the kids' needs.

Recently, he’s become more controlling and wanted me to do a job for a client I am not comfortable with. I explained the reasons why but he’s just not listening and twisting my reasons back to me.

He’s now saying I don’t want to work/contribute (which isn’t true) and should find another job. Over the last 20 years, I worked very hard to support the company.

I said fine. Then he followed up by expecting me to pay half of all the bills, which he never ever requested before in fact he made it clear it shouldn't when we first met. His financial situation is very good. I feel he’s just being controlling. Or is he right?

Tell me what you think. He says I am crazy and over-reacting …
You can be harsh, I just don't know what to think of this.

What should I do?

OP posts:
EmpressOfTheSofa · 16/01/2023 14:29

Look, you’re apparently intelligent enough to use the internet to teach yourself graphic design, but not to know that three thousand two hundred pounds a year is about a tenth of the actual wage you should be paid?

This doesn’t ring true.

bonzaitree · 16/01/2023 14:29

I really hope this is fake

Adelais · 16/01/2023 14:29

Why are you working for him on such a very low wage when you could earn so much more even working minimum wage? I don’t understand how this set up has come about and you agreed to it

Azerothi · 16/01/2023 14:29

I am curious to know why you don't and didn't want to marry him all this time. Was it because you knew what he was like and didn't want marriage?

HappiestHippo123 · 16/01/2023 14:30

Few questions, sorry!

Are you on companies house as a director or shareholder? If you are Do not sign any paperwork relating to this until you have taken legal advice.
Is he paying you dividends and possibly keeping this money himself?
Is he paying you a wage and keeping the money?
Do you get a payslip or a P60?

couid he have met someone? Hence he wants you out of the business? Hence I said don’t sign anything at present.

EmpressOfTheSofa · 16/01/2023 14:30

And I’m not troll hunting, I’m saying there must surely be more to this. Why would anyone live like this?

AnotherCountryMummy · 16/01/2023 14:30

Do you realise that for the work you've described you could be earning around £40k and still have the work from home benefits?

This is financial abuse.

QforCucumber · 16/01/2023 14:31

@Nina55 We have little stress, but I am equal owner of the house and we are married so have equal rights to everything else.

Is there a reason you haven't married?
WHY did you start working for him for £1600 every 6 months? Surely you should be getting paid that a MONTH for the hours you are working?

As per pp, get on companies house - have a look if you're a shareholder.

you will not be entitled to state pension at that rate - the min to qualify is £732 a month.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 16/01/2023 14:31

Please speak to Women’s Aid

You are in a very vulnerable position - especially as you don’t know if the £1600 is dividends or salary.

ACynicalDad · 16/01/2023 14:31

Get as much evidence as you can if you ever leave him you can probably get back pay as modern slavery. Even if it’s a family company get minimum wage through payroll so you get pension entitlement.

Ludo19 · 16/01/2023 14:32

Jeez OP why on earth did you even agree to this set up?

You realise that he holds EVERY card right?

Nina55 · 16/01/2023 14:32

Sandra1984 · 16/01/2023 14:08

@Nina55 He pays me 1600 every 6 months, which I mainly being spent on kids, although I do work nearly full time, I do have lots of flexible time to move things about to suit the kids' needs.

I’m assuming your post is a joke because it sounds like science fiction. If you’re for real your partner is a stingy jerk with zero empathy who deserves to be thrown at the sharks in the middle of the ocean. There’s a reason why he hasn’t married you and has the house in his name, because he can kick you out and not pay a dime.

if I were you I would be calling a marriage solicitor ASAP, knowing we’re I stand (financial speaking) and what I’m entitled to if I walk out on this jerk.

Not a joke ... I am semi teared up reading all the messages but only semi ... I am generally a positive person but didn't really think my initial message would lead to these responses.

OP posts:
MrNorrell · 16/01/2023 14:34

With respect, what were you expecting from the responses? You cannot possibly think that this is a normal situation.

Nina55 · 16/01/2023 14:35

euff · 16/01/2023 14:13

Please check your NI record www.gov.uk/check-national-insurance-record

Thank you. I will.

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Iflyaway · 16/01/2023 14:35

I think it's on the books but I get paid by cheque every 6 months. I do believe NI is paid.

Sorry to sound harsh OP but why are you so utterly clueless about your own life situation?

Eddielizzard · 16/01/2023 14:35

Serious financial abuse. No protection, no rights, no wage to rely on. He's done very very well out of this arrangement. Add a bit of coercive control by forcing you to do work you don't want to do. This is slave labour.

I would really start looking around for work. You have 20 years' experience.

He needs to make this more equitable and give you some security.

eastbynortheast · 16/01/2023 14:35

Sorry the messages have upset you, OP. You sound like a very trusting person.

To those posters who ask why you would put up with this, I'd say that often in relationships there's an assumption of mutual trust and teamwork.

He's thrown you a curveball. I would be wondering why now.

MyDogStoodOnABee · 16/01/2023 14:35

Sounds like he’s forcing your hand to leave. Has he had his head turned?

Nina55 · 16/01/2023 14:36

EmpressOfTheSofa · 16/01/2023 14:29

Look, you’re apparently intelligent enough to use the internet to teach yourself graphic design, but not to know that three thousand two hundred pounds a year is about a tenth of the actual wage you should be paid?

This doesn’t ring true.

He pays all the bills though ...

OP posts:
Nina55 · 16/01/2023 14:36

Ludo19 · 16/01/2023 14:32

Jeez OP why on earth did you even agree to this set up?

You realise that he holds EVERY card right?

I do now. Yes.

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EmmaEmerald · 16/01/2023 14:36

Nina55 · 16/01/2023 14:26

It could well be you know but I am very much in the dark of the exact set up.

I normally start working around 9 (after school run and a quick tidy up) until 12 or 1, have lunch abt 40 min. Than until 3:25. School run again. Than from about 4:15 till 6 ish then I cook dinner. Obv this varies sometimes.

If it is this, you will have signed documents setting it up

you say you do the accounts, it will be there

I am not sure which is worse, you having no idea how you are employed or someone possibly conning you. If you are a shareholder in a company and you didn't take the trouble to inform yourself...the mind boggles.

Addicted2LoveIsland · 16/01/2023 14:37

Nina55 · 16/01/2023 13:53

Yep

Tell him you'll report him he should be paying you minimum wage that's illegal. What a prick. Leave him

Loput · 16/01/2023 14:38

This is slave labour. A role like what you describe you do would probably demand at least 25k per year salary yet he gets it for a fractión of that. You have no stake in the company, no stake in the house and have brought up his kids for years.

Get legal advice asap. This is truly shocking and he should be sued for paying below minimum wage

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 16/01/2023 14:38

If you have accepted this as 'normal' for 22 years then I'm sorry, but none of us can help you,

You need legal advice and quickly.

I'm assuming everything is in his name?

If he's wanting to change his 'deal' after all this time then there is something else going on. I would suspect another woman.

And you will be up shit street unless you sort things out NOW.

How on earth did you let it get to this?

Nina55 · 16/01/2023 14:38

HappiestHippo123 · 16/01/2023 14:30

Few questions, sorry!

Are you on companies house as a director or shareholder? If you are Do not sign any paperwork relating to this until you have taken legal advice.
Is he paying you dividends and possibly keeping this money himself?
Is he paying you a wage and keeping the money?
Do you get a payslip or a P60?

couid he have met someone? Hence he wants you out of the business? Hence I said don’t sign anything at present.

No P60 and yes I am signing papers, once a year. I think on CH I am noted as company secretary.

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