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If you're thinking of/open to having an affair, please read this (coming from someone who did)

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IfYouTakeOnePieceOfAdviceTakeThisOne · 30/12/2022 13:38

I've seen a lot of posts lately that remind me of me in the early days before I made the worst decision I ever made. I just wanted to say these things in the hope that it stops someone from crossing the line when they're being charmed and chased and feel like they've met someone who makes them feel so happy and alive.

I didn't just fuck up by having an affair. I fucked up for FIVE WHOLE YEARS because I was so consumed by the affair fog and my inability to separate reality from fantasy. I never got caught so I'm saying this without having to deal with the ramifications of that on top. My relationship had become very stale, we had been together from teens to thirties, morphed into flatmate territory, this person engineered themselves into my life, chased me when I wasn't even interested at first and made themselves indispensable. I didn't go looking for it and didn't even realise what was happening until boundaries had already been crossed.

To any of you feeling similar and getting attention from that colleague at work, that old ex boyfriend, a mutual friend etc - run, do not walk, far in the opposite direction before you engage in a phase of fantasy and it consumes your life. Before, inevitably whether after months or years, it eventually comes undone. And when it does your life will feel 50x worse than it did before when you were a little bored and lapping up the attention.

After the fall out of mine, I had to see a therapist because I went from being perfectly stable to unable to focus on my day job, eat, or function day to day. I felt suicidal and couldn't talk to anyone about it because of the shame of what I had done. I felt addicted to a person, much like a hardcore drug addiction, and had to quit cold Turkey when neither of us wanted to. My heart felt blitzed into smithereens and I felt that I had nothing to live for. All this for someone that in the very beginning, I wasn't even attracted to!

Not to mention the guilt towards other people - living a secret double life and trying to justify or downplay it to yourself, neglecting your relationship even further and fully checking out when if you reframed your mind, you could either work through it or leave and be happy in a genuine relationship. Some of the things I did I never would have thought possible of me before, and looking back now that reality has set in I'm horrified at myself. We had sex in my house, my bed I share with my partner. His house, once while his young child was asleep upstairs. My mums house, his mums house, work events. The things you will do once you're in the thick of this are absolutely disgusting and shameful.

Not only that but we had close calls a few times, but we didn't stop. We were too addicted to each other. We just found new ways to stay in touch, became extra secretive (don't ever doubt someone's ability to continue cheating if they really want to, even if you are monitoring their phone - the level of determination and creativity is next level).

I've realised that I definitely have some trauma I needed to work through and most people who engage in this type of thing suffer from self esteem issues, anxiety or general self doubt which make them susceptible to getting involved without realising what a dumb decision it is. Our affair borderlined on obsession, we barely went an hour without contact, we called each other and kept frequently in touch when on long haul holidays, we messaged continually through the work day, we even 'worked from home' together a few times.

What seems at first like harmless flirting, something you can walk away from, little chats to make you feel good about yourself, that's just dipping your toe in before falling into the lake. It's not worth it. It will all be ripped away overnight and you will have become so dependent on this you won't be able to function.

NOTHING good will come of engaging in an affair. If you want to leave your relationship, leave, take some time to learn what you want, and then you can start looking for something healthy and sustainable. An exit affair won't help you. If you want to stay in your relationship, don't play with fire, you may find yourself suddenly getting the ick with your partner or finding them intolerable because you're so wrapped up in your fantasy.

If you want to work through your issues, you need to start talking. Communication shutting down or feeling difficult was the start of where it all went wrong for me. I seem to be seeing so many posts lately of me years ago and I want to warn people of what's to come if they go down this path. So hopefully this helps someone even if nobody responds to this post.

And yes, I am very well aware of what a total asshole I've been. How I've treated my partner, how me and my affair partner have both together manipulated his partner so we could keep things going between us. You will become the absolute worst version of yourself if you do this, and like a drug addict you will do things you never thought you were capable of to ensure you get to keep the addiction going.

I'm happy to answer anyone's questions if it helps to stop people ending up like me. If you feel in a rut at home, start a new hobby, make some new friends, enrich your life in other ways.. it won't be as intense a high, but is a far better option than human Heroin.

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Quitelikeit · 30/12/2022 15:01

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HideyHoe · 30/12/2022 15:02

Ehh it's actually the opposite of deterring people because you make it sound like you both came out of this smelling of roses despite 5 years of fucking around, if I understood the op correctly.

His Mrs hasn't got any evidence, he gaslit her into getting back, you've not been outed to your DH and still with him holding all the strings as to whether to tell him or not, you're finally working on your traumas and issues with a professional, you've not lost your job or home or anything, you've not even blocked your affair partner and I don't buy that you didn't realise you needed to block before deleting and when you get that message you'll be tempted to cheat again.

You're not some hero in a forbidden love story, FGS.
You're only sad he didn't choose you when the chips were down.
You were a fool and a fantasist and he knew how to manipulate just like guess who he's manipulating now?

Tell your husband what you've done at least let him have a say in his own marriage FFS.

What a joke.😒

IfYouTakeOnePieceOfAdviceTakeThisOne · 30/12/2022 15:02

CornishGem1975 · 30/12/2022 14:58

Plenty of people don't ever tell their partners, I agree, but that doesn't make it right. It's a continuation of lies and deceit. How can you move forward with your partner, lying to them forever.

I say that as someone who had an affair.

Did you tell?

I appreciate that, if this wasn't me I'd be saying similar. But only I know myself that I've really learned my lesson and am done. He's still lying to her I assume - id have told the truth by now.

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SafeMove · 30/12/2022 15:03

People think it is ongoing OP because if you did a quantitative analysis of the number of times you have mentioned your affair partner and the number of times you have mentioned your DH on this thread it would be so heavily weighted towards the AP it is laughable. You are not past tense obsessed with him, you are present tense obsessed. Your DH is a footnote, a silent character. You have barely mentioned him apart from to say he didn't notice your affair. I feel I know more about you AP's wife than your DH. That is telling IME.

IfYouTakeOnePieceOfAdviceTakeThisOne · 30/12/2022 15:04

Quitelikeit · 30/12/2022 15:00

That poor woman.

your poor husband

you think it’s bad now if your husband found out your world would implode

dont tell him as that would only help you

I completely agree. That's why it's basically like being a drug addict and losing your morals. It's awful.

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JamSandle · 30/12/2022 15:04

Thanks for the post OP. It's so so easy to get lulled into fantasy. It's good to have a reminder of the pitfalls of that path.

HideyHoe · 30/12/2022 15:04

And what is all this HE INSERTED himself in my life? Take responsibility. Typical cheater mentality, it all happens TO THEM not by THEM, no accountability as usual, gaslighting, fantasy land.

Blueborage · 30/12/2022 15:05

I think people confess to make themselves feel better. I would be thankful not to have got caught and bear the guilt. Is your husband going to be happier knowing this?

Notimeforaname · 30/12/2022 15:05

I understand op. While I do believe you want to make your marriage work, I cant see how that can happen if you spend the rest of your life lying to him. I think you'll always feel guilty unless you tell him.

HideyHoe · 30/12/2022 15:05

Don't even dare compare yourself to drug addicts. Honestly I better hide this thread before I get banned lol. Good luck to you op.

Squiblet · 30/12/2022 15:05

Thanks for posting, OP, it must have taken a fair bit of courage, as did all the work you've done in coming to terms with what happened. Wishing you all the best for your future & relationship.

tackling · 30/12/2022 15:07

Except you weren't an addict. You can't blame this on pills, or him for manipulating you.

You were a grown adult who liked sex with him. You made conscious choices to betray your partner every time and you still are making that choice by lying to him. It's horrible.

IfYouTakeOnePieceOfAdviceTakeThisOne · 30/12/2022 15:07

HideyHoe · 30/12/2022 15:02

Ehh it's actually the opposite of deterring people because you make it sound like you both came out of this smelling of roses despite 5 years of fucking around, if I understood the op correctly.

His Mrs hasn't got any evidence, he gaslit her into getting back, you've not been outed to your DH and still with him holding all the strings as to whether to tell him or not, you're finally working on your traumas and issues with a professional, you've not lost your job or home or anything, you've not even blocked your affair partner and I don't buy that you didn't realise you needed to block before deleting and when you get that message you'll be tempted to cheat again.

You're not some hero in a forbidden love story, FGS.
You're only sad he didn't choose you when the chips were down.
You were a fool and a fantasist and he knew how to manipulate just like guess who he's manipulating now?

Tell your husband what you've done at least let him have a say in his own marriage FFS.

What a joke.😒

I never said I'm a hero once. And I've said all of the above fully knowing it could be even worse if those things happened. I wanted to end my life, so hardly smelling of roses.

Why the hell would I want someone who manipulated me? Like I've said, this was fantasy not reality, it was never about wanting him to choose me as I didn't want to be with him in reality, it was all this illusion in our heads.

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Notimeforaname · 30/12/2022 15:08

The right thing to do is to tell him the truth and let him make a decision on whether he wants to stay with you.

Otherwise, hes just living a lie, every day of his life.
You chose to live a lie but you're forcing that on him.
And it will come out eventually. Even if it didn't, you're still hurting him by keeping it secret.

BabyFour2023 · 30/12/2022 15:08

You sound infatuated with this man still. All I can think is your poor partner deserves better. 5 years of lies and deceit and you still don’t have the decency to be honest with him. It’s all very woe is me. You’re a grown woman who made the very conscious decision to have an affair. Own up to it and stop making it sound like this man somehow forced you to fall in love with him.

IfYouTakeOnePieceOfAdviceTakeThisOne · 30/12/2022 15:09

SafeMove · 30/12/2022 15:03

People think it is ongoing OP because if you did a quantitative analysis of the number of times you have mentioned your affair partner and the number of times you have mentioned your DH on this thread it would be so heavily weighted towards the AP it is laughable. You are not past tense obsessed with him, you are present tense obsessed. Your DH is a footnote, a silent character. You have barely mentioned him apart from to say he didn't notice your affair. I feel I know more about you AP's wife than your DH. That is telling IME.

Because I'm talking about the experience and how obsessed we were with each other. I don't deny how obsessed I was, but it's definitely not an ongoing feeling. It does feel like withdrawals though.

If my partner had caught us there would be a lot more to say but he hasn't had a role in this thus far. But he's a far better human being than he was, and I'd choose him ten times over in the real world.

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80s · 30/12/2022 15:09

Have you had yourself checked for STDs etc.? Even if he was telling you very believably that you were his only affair, that's very likely not to be the case. I learned this by reading my exh's detailed emails.

You're describing this in a dramatic, exciting way. It's not.

JamSandle · 30/12/2022 15:10

tackling · 30/12/2022 15:07

Except you weren't an addict. You can't blame this on pills, or him for manipulating you.

You were a grown adult who liked sex with him. You made conscious choices to betray your partner every time and you still are making that choice by lying to him. It's horrible.

Love and sex addiction are real things.

IfYouTakeOnePieceOfAdviceTakeThisOne · 30/12/2022 15:11

HideyHoe · 30/12/2022 15:04

And what is all this HE INSERTED himself in my life? Take responsibility. Typical cheater mentality, it all happens TO THEM not by THEM, no accountability as usual, gaslighting, fantasy land.

If you read the post properly you'll see I haven't once put this all on him. However he initiated it all, he chased and pursued me relentlessly, I refused to take his number, he found other ways to get my number.. I could go on, but he had intent and I was just a stupid fool who was flattered by it and eventually got swept in. That's not to say I'm not as bad as him, of course I am.

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IfYouTakeOnePieceOfAdviceTakeThisOne · 30/12/2022 15:11

Blueborage · 30/12/2022 15:05

I think people confess to make themselves feel better. I would be thankful not to have got caught and bear the guilt. Is your husband going to be happier knowing this?

I believe he will be happier not knowing. But maybe we will be better off apart. That's what needs to be worked out.

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IfYouTakeOnePieceOfAdviceTakeThisOne · 30/12/2022 15:12

Notimeforaname · 30/12/2022 15:05

I understand op. While I do believe you want to make your marriage work, I cant see how that can happen if you spend the rest of your life lying to him. I think you'll always feel guilty unless you tell him.

If we stay together then the full story probably does need to be told. I'm still working through it, our relationship is more of a friendship and I'm trying to work through this one step at a time.

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Alcemeg · 30/12/2022 15:12

OP, it's very brave of you to post on here because a lot of Mumsnetters will be chasing after you with pitchforks. You sound very raw, and I worry about how you will cope with the avalanche of anger and spiky comments you're likely to provoke.

I sense that your initial post is almost like a message in a bottle to your former self, if you could have turned back the clock.

Years ago, I had a 6-year obsession with my then-DH's friend. Even at the time, I knew this was because he represented what was missing from my marriage (things that unfortunately included fun, kindness, etc). I didn't act on it, but paid attention to what it told me about the unfixable gaps in my marriage and ultimately ended up leaving.

I just wonder if this affair could have happened if you hadn't already outgrown your relationship with your DP. You mention
My relationship had become very stale, we had been together from teens to thirties, morphed into flatmate territory
Being together since your teenage years means it is quite possible that the relationship has runs its course and you've done as much growing as you can together. Is it possible that the affair was a distraction from dealing with that? If so, now is the time to face some home truths.
Flowers

Notimeforaname · 30/12/2022 15:13

I believe he will be happier not knowing. But maybe we will be better off apart. That's what needs to be worked out.

You tell him the truth and he can work out if he wants to stay with you.

IfYouTakeOnePieceOfAdviceTakeThisOne · 30/12/2022 15:13

HideyHoe · 30/12/2022 15:05

Don't even dare compare yourself to drug addicts. Honestly I better hide this thread before I get banned lol. Good luck to you op.

It's exactly the same concept. It's an addiction to something that's really fucking bad for you and you know it is, you know the consequences, you become someone else, but it's so fucking hard to quit. The road to recovery is just as tough. I'm not saying I'm an angel in any of this.

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IfYouTakeOnePieceOfAdviceTakeThisOne · 30/12/2022 15:14

Squiblet · 30/12/2022 15:05

Thanks for posting, OP, it must have taken a fair bit of courage, as did all the work you've done in coming to terms with what happened. Wishing you all the best for your future & relationship.

Thank you for the support.

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