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Gymtanlaundry · 29/10/2022 16:15

I'll keep it short, thank you firstly to anyone reading hoping for some help/support.
DH and I have a great marriage, we are very much in love and spend alot of our time together going on holidays and making each other laugh etc.
Over the past few years I've noticed a trend, with social events involving his friends or work colleagues he tends to try and put me off going, I'd not really thought about it much till today. He gives me subtle nudges to talk me out of attending or show why it would be best if he went alone. I'm very shy and awkward so it genuinely doesn't take much for me to agree with him.
So despite our seven years together I've only met one of his friends and none of his colleagues.
Anyway his new job has a big Christmas gathering every year which is known to include all the wags and be a very good night out. Two weeks ago he told me it was just going to be the boys having beers this year, I questioned him as it seemed odd but he got angry so I pushed I no further. Last week his colleague invited us to his wedding next year and DH said it would be easiest and best if he went alone.
I broke at this point, suddenly putting together all the past incidents, I asked if he's embarrassed of me or ashamed. I don't think I'm unattractive or horrific in social situations, I keep fit and don't have any wierd features but DH is excessively handsome so I try my best to keep up but he's definitely out of my league.
When confronted he was very sweet and denied it all and said he was so proud of me and wanted to show me off, this answer I accepted at the time until last night.
I discovered this year's work Christmas party is a big celebration including the wags and the couples will all be going out for dinner and drinks. I cried, he became enraged and said it was all in my head and I was deflecting my own feelings onto him. I haven't spoken to him since and don't know what to do or how to move forward. Am I being crazy? I'm very insecure and self conscious. Was he just protecting me? Is DH embarassed of me, the way I look or behave? How do I move forward? I feel genuinely broken, like a hidden secret who he probably jokes about with his mates.

OP posts:
DeclineandFall · 29/10/2022 18:17

I feel terrible for you OP as the only advice you are willing to accept are the ones where you are being told he is being nice by not putting you into stressfull situations because of your issues. His behaviour is weird not yours. The fact he flew into a rage is a massive red flag.
I have known more than one marriage where the husband had mistresses they passed off as their girlfriends to friends or work colleagues. Their wives thought they had amazing marriages until they discovered they
didn't. You need to keep your mind open and stop blaming yourself.

Tsort · 29/10/2022 18:17

Gymtanlaundry · 29/10/2022 17:53

Yes and he said he does want me there but it's going to be rubbish so we might as well not bother, which seems odd to me x

And you can’t just say ‘I’d like to go, anyway’? Why?

junebirthdaygirl · 29/10/2022 18:18

catandcoffee · 29/10/2022 18:03

I'm wondering if he will find your eating disorder and anxiety embarrassing.
Maybe he's built up this big picture of you to others, and you won't live up to it.

Do you never go out together socialising ?

How did you meet each other OP

This..l don't want to upset you but would you find it difficult to eat if there is a meal involved and would this be awkward for him in front of his colleagues? Do you chat easily? We have a very good friend and his dw is desperately awkward and makes everyone uncomfortable in a group. I don't mind as l accept her totally as she is but a lot of people find it difficult. She is a beautiful person, extremely talented in so many ways but so awkward in company.

PaperMonster · 29/10/2022 18:19

I had a colleague who liked to keep his girlfriends separate from his workplace. He liked to put the various people in his life into different boxes that he kept separate.

Daffodilsandtuplips · 29/10/2022 18:19

RedDiamond · 29/10/2022 16:34

I have had an awful thought! What if he has a Mistress that he takes to all his events, Do's etc and all his friends think the Mistress is his actual wife?!!

I thought the same, either long time affair who he takes to these events or he’s a serial shagger, moves onto a new colleague in each new job.

Gymtanlaundry · 29/10/2022 18:20

bouquetofpeonies · 29/10/2022 18:13

Hello OP, I have to ask because I can be the same as your husband sometimes... is he maybe a hypersensitive individual? It doesn't necessarily mean you are an introvert, and in social settings alcohol can mask a lot of the 'symptoms'. I am hypersensitive and tbh I have real trouble 'crossing' friend/ relationship groups, if that makes sense. I find it really overwhelming to mix work and fiends, or different friend groups (eg, childhood friends, uni friends and hobby friends). It's really not a great thing and I really admire people who are able to manage many different networks at once.

It's just a thought, I know my partner felt very 'put out' when we first got together and felt I was hiding him. It was hard to explain to an extrovert like him how social situations for me (an introvert) were already so exhausting, and added to the mix of different networks, it was just too much! I can't explain why though, tbh. I don't have any secrets from my partner, I just wanted to 'connect' in to one network, if that makes sense.

Having said that...there was also a time when I had picked up smoking at work again (after quitting with him, took it back up bc of stress), and I really didn't want him to see anyone ask me for a cigarette or ask if I wanted to go and smoke! 🤐

Very interesting and not something I even knew about, definitely worth considering and thank you for explaining x

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Pinkbonbon · 29/10/2022 18:21

He's keeping you a secret so that he can pretend to be single tomorher women. Either that or he tells other people lies about you and if they met you in person they'd know it isn't true.

Either way, his response to you is so toxic and abusive. He is the problem. Get him gone.

Butchyrestingface · 29/10/2022 18:21

He doesn't want his mistress to find out he's cheating on her with his wife. Sad

NCFT0922 · 29/10/2022 18:22

Did none of his friends come to your wedding?

Daffodilsandtuplips · 29/10/2022 18:22

Tsort · 29/10/2022 18:17

And you can’t just say ‘I’d like to go, anyway’? Why?

“Well Darling, if it’s going to be boring and shit why don’t we do something else that night…hmmm?”

Quitelikeit · 29/10/2022 18:23

Gosh this man has been labelled as gay cheating & abusive - harsh imo

op do you go out to restaurants and events together?

or out in public together? Go on holiday?

Gloryofthe80s · 29/10/2022 18:26

Didn’t he invite more than one friend to your wedding?

Tsort · 29/10/2022 18:27

Daffodilsandtuplips · 29/10/2022 18:22

“Well Darling, if it’s going to be boring and shit why don’t we do something else that night…hmmm?”

‘No, thanks, I want to go to this.’

Unless she’s afraid of her DH, I'm genuinely not seeing the issue, here.

DucklingDaisy · 29/10/2022 18:27

thenightsky · 29/10/2022 18:16

I wouldn't want my husband to come to events where I was seeing my friends or colleagues because he tends to drone on about boring things even though it should be obvious no one else is interested. He'll also talk about something we did together and get the main facts completely wrong. (I'm very sure he has Asperger's, but have never talked about it with him because I know he would get extremely defensive).

I'm married to same man I think, even down to talking about something we've done together, but getting the main facts completely wrong. I have to say 'no, no, its... ' and put him right because I can see people disbelieving his crap.

How did you feel about this characteristic when you first got together? You both sound pretty contemptuous of your husbands now, but surely you can’t have always felt like that or you wouldn’t have married them.

Gloryofthe80s · 29/10/2022 18:27

How do you know so much information about his works Christmas party?

Stripedbag101 · 29/10/2022 18:27

I need to Mel what job in 2022 doesn’t allow women! Is he a coal miner in china?

there are female prison guards in all male prisons! What is it. Please.

Treeeeeeee · 29/10/2022 18:28

How would you have reacted if he said he hadn't invited you because of your ED and anxiety. How he thought you coming would be stressful for you and embarassing for him if you struggled? Maybe his lie was coming from a place of sensitivity and kindness

Gloryofthe80s · 29/10/2022 18:28

Why is he telling you about wedding invitations if he doesn’t want you to go?

Butchyrestingface · 29/10/2022 18:30

Stripedbag101 · 29/10/2022 18:27

I need to Mel what job in 2022 doesn’t allow women! Is he a coal miner in china?

there are female prison guards in all male prisons! What is it. Please.

Catholic priest!

That would explain a lot.

Pinkbonbon · 29/10/2022 18:30

'He said it was all in my head and I was deflecting my own feelings onto him'. That's called gaslighting.

Assuming you're giving us the facts facts that he is deliberately lying to you about events being 'boys nights' ect...

It may be of course that he is trying to protect you from having g to eat in public but, if he was genuinely a nice, caring husband then when confronted about how his behaviour is making you feel, he would have came clean surely? And appologised.

Instead hhe's got mad at you for trying to explain how his lies have hurt you. And, tried to convince you you are crazy.

Not exactly healthy is it. Definately toxic territory..

Forzatesoro · 29/10/2022 18:30

OP I was married to someone who kept me separated from his work colleagues/ friend group nights out/hobby group parties: the works
Always handy with an excuse where he would outright lie that the WAGS wouldn't be there; inevitably they were there and he'd come home regaling stories of a great night and how they were all asking after me. It would happen over and over despite me asking him to find out if partners were going. I stopped asking eventually.

One of the hobby parties was at my relatives house and I asked if I could go; he refused, telling me he wanted to keep everything separate. I respected his right to say that (this hobby took him out of the house for 8 hours a week for 6 months of the year)

He ground my confidence and esteem into the ground. I was a vibrant attractive young woman who he almost destroyed with the lies/stonewalling/gaslighting. I suffered terribly and lost years of my life to that hateful shit

Please be careful, your writing seems very focused on your 'shortcomings' and I'm concerned you're being fed lies and nonsense to control you.

I hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't take this lying down OP

TheSpottedZebra · 29/10/2022 18:32

Stripedbag101 · 29/10/2022 18:15

It’s odd that he works in an entirely male profession - and none of his colleagues are gay - so all partners are wives or girlfriends.

are you sure you have this right?

un this day and age that is really unusual. No male partners at all at work?? I can’t think of any profession or work place which excludes females or gay men???

Agree! Even submarines now have women on them!
Sports team have support staff who could be women.

The only ones I can think of are very fundamentalist Priests/imams/rabbis. Or the SAS type people.
Everyone else will surely have some element of mixed sex now.

TheSpottedZebra · 29/10/2022 18:34

Butchyrestingface · 29/10/2022 18:30

Catholic priest!

That would explain a lot.

Female cleaners though. And people to wash the robes and do the flowers.
Okmthe cleaners don't have to be female bit in my many years on this earth theynare invariably Church women.

Edders71 · 29/10/2022 18:34

JulesCobb · 29/10/2022 16:59

If you have only met one friend in 7 years and you are married, then this isnt just about this new job. Or a mistress.

he responded with anger and rage. On the very small amount of info you have posted, my concern is that he has been emotionally abusive throughout your relationship and so you do not see it. He is gaslighting you clearly, as you've caught him lying so calling you paranoid when you have proof you are not is evidence of this abuse.

who told you that you are awkward? You said he tells you jit to come iut eith him and it doesnt take Much for you to agree, so it isnt your idea not to go at all. This is what he has turned you into.

in all honesty, you need outside help asap.

Absolutely this. Do you have female friends/ go to work/ have a social life of your own OP?

Feelinglikeachange22 · 29/10/2022 18:34

I would be inclined to say, " you are right it is just me being silly thinking that you don't want me to come. Of course you do and I am going to come and really enjoy it"
Then start talking about what you are going wear etc.