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Things have come to a head... 'friend' being OTT and flirting with boyfriend

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IDontWantToGoToSchoolToday · 05/10/2022 07:49

Yes, I have posted about this a couple of times previously. I'm feeling really shit at the moment so I'd appreciate neutral amd supportive comments rather than critical ones. Thanks.

In a nutshell, I'm in a social/hobby group of a dozen or so people. Mostly coupled up. I started seeing someone within the group and one of the 20yrs+ married women started flirting with my boyfriend. It became so OTT that it was embarrassing - other people noticed and were commenting. I stopped engaging with her other than when essential. I didn't ignore her if she spoke to me but I started avoiding being in that situation.

I spoke with my boyfriend about it. People had also commented to him about it. He didn't want to upset her by saying anything directly, even something as simple and non confrontational as, "Don't do that," and decided to just avoid her as I was/not seek out her company. He told me that he didn't know why she was doing it (but felt it was more to do with me than him as, when we'd first met, she told she was jealous of me). He said he found it weird and uncomfortable.

Anyway, it came to a bit of a head at the end of July when she asked me directly what the matter was. So I told her. I was cross about being the one who had to say something because it was nothing to do with me per se and I shouldn't have been the one who had to deal with it. She apologised to me and to him and no more was said. He didn't reply to her apology but it was definitely worded in such as way that it was intended to elicit reassurance on his part. He didn't give it.

We didn't meet up for the hobby over the summer so didn't see her again until a few weeks ago.

The first time, she ignored me, the second time she was friendly. I decided that, for the sake of the group, and so as not to be 'immature' as was suggested by some on here, that I would be amicable for everyone's sake.

However, she seemed to take this as a green light that everything was now OK, 6 weeks had passed and now it's business as usual. She hasn't been as bad and I wouldn't really describe her behaviour as flirting anymore bit she is still very tactile with him and he is now, seemingly, OK with it. I am not. I just feel I've been trampled over.

I feel betrayed by her as a friend. I feel betrayed that he has seemingly put it all behind him and he now seeks put her company for chats again. I'm sure others won't see a problem with that.

But it untenable for me. He and I had a long chat a couple of weeks ago and I said that I was strongly considering leaving the hobby over it because it was just unpleasant for me all the time - I feel disrespected and unvalued. He also told me in this conversation that he knew I would likely walk away from the relationship if I did. He was right.

The next time we were all together, and knowing this, he spent much of the evening chatting with her.

Afterwards, I told him that I would be leaving the hobby. He hasn't said anything about it either way. I have no idea what his thoughts are on it.

It's pretty much sounded the death knell for our relationship. I can't bear to be in the same room as either of them now.

He claims to have no interest in her and, by all accounts, he was in love with me for a while before we got together. He says he can't believe his luck. He tells me, and shows me, that he loves me. We spend all weekend together, we go out, he never behaves in a way that gives cause for concern other than this. He's overhauled my garden, cooks and does housework when he's here, treats me perfectly in every other respect. Talks about a future together and his actions, otherwise, seem to support this. But I just feel he doesn't respect me and has allowed the situation to continue despite knowing what the outcome will be.

I can't leave properly for another 3 weeks because we have a commitment to fulfill and I've agreed to do it. I'd be landing an awful lot of people in the shit if I pulled out now. But it's making me feel dreadful.

He says he has no interest in her but doesn't like to upset people and sees me leaving as choice rather than something he has caused/allowed to happen.

But I feel heartbroken and utterly bereft that I just don't seem to matter. I feel he has chosen being friendly with someone he claims to not even like all that much over an entire life with me.

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IDontWantToGoToSchoolToday · 05/10/2022 07:53

But I feel heartbroken and utterly bereft that I just don't seem to matter. I feel he has chosen being friendly with someone he claims to not even like all that much over an entire life with me.

And especially someone he said he felt was trying to sabotage our relationship in the process of seeking male validation that she is attractive.

And she will see this too.

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Piffpaffpoff · 05/10/2022 07:55

If he is as lovely as you suggest, is it worth having one more conversation with her - a sort of ‘look, we had this convo, you apologised for your behaviour but here you are doing it again. What gives?’

But, ultimately, the problem is with him. He won’t stand up for you as a couple, and that’s what makes it untenable I think. Sorry.

poorbuthappy · 05/10/2022 07:58

Sorry - are you going to leave the hobby and stay in the relationship? Or leave hobby and relationship?

IDontWantToGoToSchoolToday · 05/10/2022 07:59

Both.

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girlmom21 · 05/10/2022 08:00

He shows you he loves you etc etc until she's there.

As far as she's concerned, he's probably showing her similar affections.

He knew his behaviour was ruining the relationship and he's carried on anyway.

IncompleteSenten · 05/10/2022 08:02

Of course he likes to upset people.

You're upset and you are the person he claims to love.

I bet he's thoroughly enjoying the ego boost.

IDontWantToGoToSchoolToday · 05/10/2022 08:02

Yes, the problem is that he won't stand up for us as a couple. Which means I can't ever trust that he will stand up for us as a couple.

I don't see the point in talking about it again tbh. We've probably 4 or 5 conversation abut it over the past 5 months so it's not something that is brought up all the time. But I've are my feelings clear when we have.

What's he going to say differently this time? The damage is done.

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IncompleteSenten · 05/10/2022 08:03

Posted too soon. I wanted to say that people who treat their loved ones badly because "they don't like to upset other people" need a hefty dose of my boot up their arse.

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IDontWantToGoToSchoolToday · 05/10/2022 08:04

girlmom21 · 05/10/2022 08:00

He shows you he loves you etc etc until she's there.

As far as she's concerned, he's probably showing her similar affections.

He knew his behaviour was ruining the relationship and he's carried on anyway.

Yes.

Except that he doesn't reciprocate. He is only friendly with her. There is nothing in his actual conduct with her that is concerning.

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IDontWantToGoToSchoolToday · 05/10/2022 08:04

IncompleteSenten · 05/10/2022 08:02

Of course he likes to upset people.

You're upset and you are the person he claims to love.

I bet he's thoroughly enjoying the ego boost.

Well he can have it. I'm not playing any more.

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IncompleteSenten · 05/10/2022 08:05

Good for you. He needs to understand how badly he's behaving.

girlmom21 · 05/10/2022 08:06

There is nothing in his actual conduct with her that is concerning.

Apart from the fact he'd rather lose you - who he's supposed to love and adore - than distance himself from her.

Backtoreality22 · 05/10/2022 08:06

I don’t blame you for ending it. It was never going to stop.

Ladyofthelake53 · 05/10/2022 08:07

You are giving her just what she wants, I'd be buggered if I'd let her do that to my relationship. She's set out to split you up she's a bitch.

Please talk with your boyfriend about it more and try to resolve it. You sound content apart from this situation. Although I think he needs to tell her in a reasonable way she needs to back off

IDontWantToGoToSchoolToday · 05/10/2022 08:07

I just can't believe it really.

He never talks about her, he doesn't have contact with her outside of the social group and yet she is still more important to him than me and worth losing everything over.

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poorbuthappy · 05/10/2022 08:09

Whilst I totally get the fight for your relationship stance it means absolutely nothing because tbh it should be your partner sorting the other person out and telling them to back off.
You can not fight for someone who isn't willing to fight for the relationship.
Leave both. Move on. Be happy

IncompleteSenten · 05/10/2022 08:11

I agree. Fuck fighting.
Fight to keep a man who doesn't give a shit that he's upsetting you despite being told several times?
I'd be fighting to get him out of my life not keep him in it.

Rainbowqueeen · 05/10/2022 08:15

Good decision OP. Your sanity and feelings of self worth are more valuable than a relationship with someone who won’t put you first.

Focus on yourself now.

5zeds · 05/10/2022 08:15

From his point of view he has decided the sort of person he wants to be and is living by it. He won’t change his behaviour because he believes this is who he is and has a right to be. From yours, you don’t want him to be like that, you’d like him to be more demonstrably focused on your relationship. You want the gesture and the performance of that prioritising of you both as a couple. He doesn’t. Ultimately the compromise is too much for either of you, so he’s right, it will end. He’s not what you are looking for.

Aikko · 05/10/2022 08:19

5zeds · 05/10/2022 08:15

From his point of view he has decided the sort of person he wants to be and is living by it. He won’t change his behaviour because he believes this is who he is and has a right to be. From yours, you don’t want him to be like that, you’d like him to be more demonstrably focused on your relationship. You want the gesture and the performance of that prioritising of you both as a couple. He doesn’t. Ultimately the compromise is too much for either of you, so he’s right, it will end. He’s not what you are looking for.

Pretty much this.
He has no backbone. You are not compatible.

Imissmoominmama · 05/10/2022 08:20

Are you asking him to be unfriendly toward her within a social group? If he’s not engaging with her flirting, I don’t really understand.

Be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water.

EarthSwallowMeWhole · 05/10/2022 08:23

He says he has no interest in her but doesn't like to upset people and sees me leaving as choice rather than something he has caused/allowed to happen.

But that's not true though. He is allowing you to leave by being passive and not clearly nipping it in the bud. He is making you upset, the one person he should really not like upsetting.
I remember all your previous posts and I can't believe the situation is still ongoing!

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 05/10/2022 08:27

So you're dumping him because he talks to another woman.

No matter what she's doing, all he's doing is having friendly conversations. Either you trust him not to reciprocate or you don't. You clearly don't, so I'll give you the same advice as last time, leave.

Monoprix · 05/10/2022 08:28

You say the woman is married. What is her husband saying about all this? Is he not involved in the hobby and oblivious to this all?

ExtraOnions · 05/10/2022 08:29

So … she’s not flirting with him … he’s not flirting with her … he doesn’t engage with her outside the group .. and loves you.

You are ending the relationship because he won’t ignore her in social situations ?

Is that right ?

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