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My husband gives me permission to go out, and I feel grateful FFS - is this trauma bonding??

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Moonah · 24/09/2022 09:24

I have friends. My H doesn't have any. A night out was arranged this week, and it struck me much later that (1) my H gave me permission to go, and (2) that I actually felt grateful that he gave me permission. I hadn't realised this happened before now, and it's caused me to really examine my own feelings and reactions to him, and I've realised that when my friends arrange a night out, I dread telling my H and I put off mentioning it. When I do eventually tell him, my heart beats faster and I get a knot of tension in my stomach. His response is always to either frown and look angry and say 'Are you going?' in a really annoyed tone, or to pause and then say 'You can go if you want'. If the former, I then feel worried and chew on it for hours (and if I'm brave enough to ask why he's annoyed, he always denies that he is, but again in an annoyed tone, and then he's off with me for hours). But if he says I can go, I actually feel grateful and relieved.

There's so much wrong else in this relationship. It's a constant cycle of him alternating between being moody and being lovely. I'm on eggshells, then I'm relaxed, I'm on eggshells, then I'm relaxed: over and over and over, all depending on my H's mood. When he's stressed or busy, he takes his moods out on me – snapping at me and being horrible to me, banging about, slamming doors, loud irritated sighs, etc., but then denying it if I ask him what's wrong: "nothing" is his stock answer. And then I'm tense and worried. We've just had 4 days of him being angry about something that happened at work, and I've been tense and walking on eggshells for all that time. Then yesterday, he suddenly gave me a hug and told me he loved me (no apology: there's never an apology because he is never ever in the wrong, ever) and I was flooded with gratefulness and relief, and now he's back to being really nice again, relaxed and laughing and joking.

There are loads of other things: he's a compulsive liar, he regularly gives me me silent treatment, he refuses to discuss any issues, he's resentful and holds silent grudges for years, he messes with my stuff behind my back then pretends he hasn't. He's fussy and controlling. He's never wrong - if I mention an issue then he instantly denies it and turns it back on me so I end up confused and believing I'm the one in the wrong. We haven't had sex for 10 years, we don't hold hands or kiss, and there's only affection when he's going through a nice cycle. But when it IS a nice cycle - which is about half of the time - he's funny and good company and we get on so well, and I just love those times.

I recognise all this. I know this is a shit relationship. I've got a job, I earn (just about) enough to finance a solo life, we don't have children, I've got a lot of friends and people like me, I've got hobbies and interests. I'd be totally fine living alone, so I have literally no idea why I stay - apart from the times when he's lovely, and those feelings of floods of relief and gratefulness, and I just want to stay here with him in this relationship so strongly that I keep repeating this ridiculous cycle, and I just know if I left I'd miss him so much.

If this was a friend of mine telling me this I'd tell her to run for the hills. It's fucking ludicrous. Even typing this, I'm annoyed at how pathetic I am. So I googled this morning 'why do I feel grateful when my partner is nice to me' and ended up down this rabbit hole of abusive relationships and trauma bonding. Is that what this is??

I'm 55 and we've been together for 30 years.

OP posts:
Maray1967 · 31/10/2022 23:08

Do you have any precious things that he might damage? Any glass or china or paintings? Jewellery? Could you get it to a safe place?

NickEccles · 31/10/2022 23:40

It can be SO hard to leave/end things! I know that only too well......

It sounds like you should be alone for the time being with no return to this man!

When my marriage finally ended after years of hell, I never thought I would be ok without her, ten years on I am alone & happy just me & my pets! Would love to be in love with someone new but @ 56 & having had a stroke 9 years ago makes it seem impossible to find a new woman, so I just keep an open mind & see what the future brings!

It's the leaving that's the hardest part & being on your own again - I never believed I could do it.......I did though & so can you! Don't waste the years you have left, life is too short! 😊

DoubleGauze · 01/11/2022 19:27

I'm so happy to read these posts op! Thank you for letting us know how you're doing. I know you're going through some really strange processes and emotions right now , but as you know , there's no other way with a 'partner' like yours.

I look forward to your post telling us about your new home.

Nanny0gg · 01/11/2022 21:35

JamesBondOO7 · 24/09/2022 09:44

I could saw "ignore your post" but I'm not ignorant.

The reason I said was her to possibly stay and as per my post is 'you never know what you may end up with'

I'm sure you know of people that met someone that appeared the best thing since sliced bread until they moved in together/married etc - staying at least she has good times and possibly work on that with professional help?

Or be happier alone?

colourmebladd · 02/11/2022 06:45

Here to offer my moral support…well done OP, keep going, you can do it.

I left someone many years ago, he wasn’t this bad but some similarities. We’d been together only 4 years and no joint finances but it took me a lot to realise and detangle myself and get out.

The relief when it was over was EVERYTHING

For years I would have dreams where I was still with him then wake up and be just so happy!!!

Im really excited for you for the day you can be you again Flowers

lasagnecheese · 24/03/2023 21:38

I'm in the same position @Moonah .. did you manage to break free? I literally cringe when I read responses saying "just leave him", "why are you allowing this" because I feel the shame of that but at the same time I know those statements mean that those people have never been in this position and can't possibly understand the psychology behind trauma bonding and the chemical changes that actually occur in the brains of people who are trauma bonded. You can't just leave. That's the whole premise of trauma bonding. I'm in an abusive marriage with a covert narcissist, got two kids, barely make enough to live as a single mum but a big barrier for me is the huge fight he will gove me in court, which I know will tax me mentally and financially. If he fights me I simply will run out of money (he earns ten times my salary). He says he'll fight for 50/50 so he doesn't have to pay child support. He doesn't do anywhere near 50/50 but I'm scared I won't have the money to fight him. He will be brutal in court. He knows where to hit to hurt. It's frightening. I need to leave. But at the same time he breadcrumbs and hoovers me back constantly. Did you manage to break free?? X

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