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Online dating - absolutely fucking grim!

244 replies

SwissRole123 · 04/09/2022 07:59

It's vile isn't it? I've quit it now as it's not suitable to my personality but fuck me...

  1. 90% of them are absolute rotters who send messages starting with "hey sexy..."
  1. The vast majority are instagram slaves who's profile pictures are hanging off a cliff in South East Asia, jumping out of some random plane or posing with a tiger. Personally I'm happy with a bowl of pasta down the local, a few beers and a game of darts.
  1. The ones who are apparently looking for a relationship but don't bother messaging you or will fizzle out after a "hello how are you"
  1. Quite a few are "regulars" I've seen before with a different name to the one I've seen on a different app... 💍? These are usually the ones who say they're about to delete their profile for technical reasons. Poor cow whoever she is
  1. Then there's the "rule" that even on the slight off chance you click with someone you'll have to pretty much accept they're still dating other women until they decide who they want the most. It's all a bit Pick Me 🚫😳
  1. The ones who are up to their eyes in kids with the old "my kids are my world and if you don't like it you can fuck off" okay mate but maybe DON'T actually post pictures of your children on a dating site and google safeguarding
  1. The six pack selfies. Just stop ✋️
  1. I never knew how many people were called Simon.
  1. The sleazebags. One guy was literally posing with his coat pulled open with both hands wearing a t-shirt saying "show me your twat"... another declared all the women should pick him because his cock is the same length as two argos pens 🖊 🖊
  1. The group photo... where he never turns out to be the fit one 🙈

I have to laugh. I actually know quite a few decent people who met online but they were all years ago so perhaps it's all changed since covid I'm not sure. But if any of you single MNers can add to the list, feel free! I'd love to hear more!

OP posts:
Ohwowywow · 10/09/2022 08:05

Talon01 · 10/09/2022 07:49

I can only speak from my experience and I'm not aiming to invalidate anyone elses. I realise women have to deal with crap on the dating apps men don't.

Went on a date last night. Messaging seemed really positive and I thought we'd get on well.

Within 5 minutes knew it would be a damp squid. So dour / negative. I think she'd been through a tough time but surely on a first date you try and be positive. Some of the usual common themes such as talking about people by name but not providing context like I'm supposed to know who they are. How terrible it's been for her family the last year or two. I do empathise but on a first date with someone you're trying to presumably impress....

Those that don't seem to know how to interact with the other sex. Think nothing of being very negative about the ex but clam up if you say you've had a tough time with yours (I love that double standard where its OK for a woman to criticise an ex but a man does it and it's a red flag).

The ones that are worth dating seem to have some deeply toxic traits when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex which must have been learnt in their teens/20s. But when you're in your 40s and still doing you need to realise its not attractive and people will walk away from you for it.

I've met some lovely women and have remained friends in some cases. But with the exception of one, that really was a shame as there just wasn't the spark, there have been some underlying issues in play.

It's not just men with these traits.

… you don’t mean to invalidate anyones experience hun … but there you go trying to compare the usual rubbish women also have to put yo with the sexual assaults , porn addictions and paying for sex

Yoh do realise that is the typical lack of awareness women are talking about?

I don’t really see how any of that relates to any of the issues I wrote about . The experiences you describe are pretty common for women . I was talking about what we have to deal with ON TOO of the usual no effort or criticising an ex business

also there’s no double standards around anyone talking about an x . No different for man or woman

but if you want to get into double standards we could begin with how women have expectations on them men never do

sone men are so delusional they believe there are double standards that go against men …. It’s laughable really

Ohwowywow · 10/09/2022 08:09

@Talon01

’it’s not just men with these traits ‘
my quote was about people who commit sexual assault Are porn addicts , use sex workers etc

I was pointing out women deal with all the usual HUMAN faults as well ad that

so please explain how men are dealing with those things in any way like women are….seeing as you quoted my post … I’m just totally confused

you think a woman talking about an ex or not putting in effort is the same ad a man who assaults women ?

EBearhug · 10/09/2022 08:09

zonky · 09/09/2022 22:06

If you've had children, are in the menopause or past it, what is the point of a romantic relationship at this point?

I still enjoy sex and kissing. And it's fun, in between the mad ones, of whom there are many...

Smilingwithfangs · 10/09/2022 08:15

EBearhug · 04/09/2022 10:13

I did not have a splenectomy. I had a splendid one.

Oh I wasted far too long on your previous message trying to establish how the lack of a spleen had affected your interest in men holding fish in photos. I’d almost weaved it in when I read your update and now I feel a bit foolish.

Always4Brenner · 10/09/2022 13:29

I said this on Twitter replying to a post how women are remaining single childless more etc and I replied yes sick of man child syndrome, crap sex mediocre at best, doing most of child rearing (not me but others do) most housework yes the truth hurts doesn’t it? He said “if I go without money due to you and the pension. I won’t be happy’ I replied “well let’s claim UC now then and you’ll be safe and I’ll sink and slit my throat’ he said “don’t say that” I replied ‘Well you brought it up” I can’t wait now to move. Christmas cancelled except steaks which are in freezer if he doesn’t want can jog on.

Always4Brenner · 10/09/2022 16:05

Very low today please cheer me I don’t drink no money to go out hate pubs gigs etc what most people call fun anyway. Sick and tired of all the worry. Wishes I could hibernate and wake up next March. Hopefully I’ll know the worst from dwp a new home.

YouAreNotBatman · 10/09/2022 16:21

The ones that are worth dating seem to have some deeply toxic traits when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex which must have been learnt in their teens/20s. But when you're in your 40s and still doing you need to realise its not attractive and people will walk away from you for it.

What are those traits, @Talon01 ?

EarthSight · 10/09/2022 16:43

@Kitchenlight

but all the blokes my age wanted younger woman by at least a decade and all said it was because they were 'young at heart'

What they meant was they wanted a much younger woman because -

a) Their inspirational friend Pete managed to get a girlfriend that was 15 years younger when he got divorced, so they're going to have a go at fishing as well.
b) They think they deserve it
c) They think that women their old women are demanding hags and they'd quite enjoy being with somone who looks up to them and doesn't see their bullshit as quickly. I'd like to give them the benefit of the double and think they're going for someone younger because they want someone who matches their own looks/physique/style....but in reality, a lot of these men are hoping that status or money will make up for that, and they don't have to make an effort in any way.

EarthSight · 10/09/2022 16:44

They think that women their own age are demanding old hags*

DarceyG · 10/09/2022 17:17

Always4Brenner · 10/09/2022 16:05

Very low today please cheer me I don’t drink no money to go out hate pubs gigs etc what most people call fun anyway. Sick and tired of all the worry. Wishes I could hibernate and wake up next March. Hopefully I’ll know the worst from dwp a new home.

Everything does seem a bit grim right now but I think if you just stay home you will dwell. Go to the cinema, even if it’s on your own it’s not weird anymore lots of people do it. My friends goes out to eat on her own even though she has a partner and friends she really likes it. If you don’t have much money join a class. I push myself to do things and it helps me stay upbeat mostly.

Kashmirsilver · 10/09/2022 17:46

EarthSight · 10/09/2022 16:44

They think that women their own age are demanding old hags*

It is true though.🤔😂

Always4Brenner · 10/09/2022 18:26

Nothing I want to see loathe comedy marvel no Star Wars at the moment anyway it involves taxis back so that out, I’ll watch some more Malory Towers and I’ve had a gorgeous tea veg chilli and rice that’s a hot and will be had often.

Always4Brenner · 10/09/2022 18:29

Sorry meant hit. And I adore my talking book.

Talon01 · 11/09/2022 14:40

EarthSight · 10/09/2022 16:44

They think that women their own age are demanding old hags*

Replace demanding with deluded

Talon01 · 11/09/2022 19:47

YouAreNotBatman · 10/09/2022 16:21

The ones that are worth dating seem to have some deeply toxic traits when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex which must have been learnt in their teens/20s. But when you're in your 40s and still doing you need to realise its not attractive and people will walk away from you for it.

What are those traits, @Talon01 ?

Broadly speaking I suppose acting like the 'prize'. That we're just fortunate to have their attention and should be happy to be messed about, picked up and put down.

So you walk away from that and they get very upset...

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 11/09/2022 21:51

YouAreNotBatman · 10/09/2022 16:21

The ones that are worth dating seem to have some deeply toxic traits when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex which must have been learnt in their teens/20s. But when you're in your 40s and still doing you need to realise its not attractive and people will walk away from you for it.

What are those traits, @Talon01 ?

In that case they're not worth dating!

Ohwowywow · 11/09/2022 22:04

Talon01 · 11/09/2022 14:40

Replace demanding with deluded

Maybe some women are deliuded , so are plenty of men !!!

however not many women are porn addicts or trying to date 25yrs olds … not to mention the difference in stats of violence , sexual assiduously and murder that skew heavily towards men because no the perpetrators

men can whinge all they like about Women being deluded or flakey or whatever but at the end of the day every single thing they come up with is a HUMAN fault and one doesn’t put mens health and even lives at risk

as for the ‘prize ‘ comment , I realise plenty of men are threatened by confident women especially in a world where so many men treat women as sun human and incel culture is becoming huge but the reality is women are recognising their worth and don’t need men who have crap attitudes or worse

Ohwowywow · 11/09/2022 22:08

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 11/09/2022 21:51

In that case they're not worth dating!

Yes , the chances his life is at risk from these women are much much lower than the odds for women who have stalkers

men do this Frequently too , act deluded , see themselves as the prize then get butt hurt when the woman walks away
some go on to stalk , rape and/or kill women. Sure it’s happened rarely the other way round but statistically women are at FAR greater risk

Sunbird24 · 11/09/2022 22:18

When I was 35 a man on OLD said I was selfish and ‘deloussianal’ for still wanting to get married and have kids at my age, and that I’d never find a man of comparable age who wanted the same. Then when I declined to meet him he threw a hissy fit. Can’t think why he was struggling to meet anyone…

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