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Do I cancel my holiday to go to my dad's funeral?

187 replies

Maidenpink · 01/09/2022 14:28

My relationship with my mum, dad and brother broke down around 6 or so years ago. It was a long time coming. I stopped being the one to visit and maintain connection. I decided I didn't want to keep bringing my young kids into a house with so much volatility, addiction, lack of boundaries. It was adversely affecting my mental health and ability to look after my own family. So we ended up very low contact (birthday cards only, even that dwindling). Had years of counselling. All very painful.

My dad died yesterday. My brother called me to tell me. I am booked to go on a cruise on Sunday with my husband and two kids. This is a big deal holiday for us (who are traditionally campers). We could I think claim money back via insurance (although we wouldn't get this holiday again as it was a good deal coming out of Covid). Initially I thought I had to cancel the holiday no question. But some friends have gently pointed out that I could still go. Missing his funeral wouldn't be the end of the world given our relationship had broken down and I hadn't seen or spoken to him in nearly 7 years. No date for funeral yet. It will be small, prob crematorium. It may not even be next week so I could end up cancelling for nothing anyway.

Now I'm not sure what to do. I have to decide by tomor at the latest. I realise there is no easy answer to this. Would really appreciate input from other estranged adult children.

OP posts:
VickyEadieofThigh · 01/09/2022 16:56

firstmummy2019 · 01/09/2022 14:32

If you are in the UK and your dad wasn't Jewish or Muslim, then the funeral will most likely be in at least 2 weeks time, maybe even more. I would go on the holiday. Tell your brother the date you are back, so you can arrange to go on your return, if that's your wish.

This is what I recommend. Funerals aren't being done fast these days and it's perfectly possible to delay them. When my FiL died, his funeral was delayed for over a month because of various travel issues.

Ugzbugz · 01/09/2022 16:57

I would be going on holiday.

There's this wierd thing when people who aren't particularly nice all of a sudden need to be worshipped at a funeral and they don't.

Enjoy your time away with those who love and treat you correctly.

Midpmcoffee · 01/09/2022 16:58

Festoonlights · 01/09/2022 16:44

I would ask your brother to make the funeral when you are back from your holiday, if they decide to go ahead whilst you are there, that needs to be factored in as well. Only you can decide whether you wish to go (and it should come your own decision, and not social expectation)

Try to run through both scenarios in your mind, which one feels right?

Oh come on

op doesn’t have a relationship with brother or mother and you expect the funeral to be postponed until it fits in with OP’s cruise plans?? Does that sound remotely on the cards as being a possibility? No.

This is a scenario where you need to act cleverly and decisively.

”I am afraid I have plans that I will not be rescheduling as my children are very excited about it. Thank you for letting me know and I am sorry for your loss”

Blowthemandown · 01/09/2022 16:58

@Maidenpink ask them to set the date for one you can make, especially as no date is has been set. If not possible, don’t go.

cushioncovers · 01/09/2022 16:59

I'd go on your holiday. And to g be e honest I wouldn't even go to the funeral if it was after you got back from your holiday. A funeral is to pay your last respects to the deceased person. If I was estranged from that person because of their behaviour I wouldn't go to their funeral.

Festoonlights · 01/09/2022 17:00

I am not sure if you are in touch with anyone from that side of the family any longer, and you are concerned about what they might think and you decide not to go then it is fine to send a message to say given the difficulties with the relationship you will be marking his passing in your own way and won't be attending. People that love and care for you will understand and support you, people that are not supporting you are not worth considering.

DecorateTheTree · 01/09/2022 17:01

You can say a goodbye whilst your away.

TooMuchToDoTooLittleInclination · 01/09/2022 17:02

I'm sorry to hear about your Dad (in several different ways). Your grief can be just as intense with a parent you're No or low contact with because of the inability to 'sort' things out, and have the relationship you would have wanted. Once they've died you have to accept there's no changing thst now.

look after yourself!

you did the right thing, the ball is in their court now!!

SomePosters · 01/09/2022 17:04

Sounds to me like you’re asking for permission to go.

If you will feel you missed out by not going then sure but sounds like you’re more concerned about what other people will think of you not going and frankly do you really care what they think enough to miss a lovely holiday with people you love?

i hope you have a lovely holiday

(estranged family situation over here too by the way if you couldn’t tell!)

fisjon · 01/09/2022 17:05

Go on holiday, I have distanced myself from my family by telling them to leave me alone. I was fed up with the bickering and childishness from adults who should know better.
I have had a much better life without them. One week I woke up early morning and heard my mum calling me (she was in hospital 130 miles away). Later that day I had an email to say she had passed on. I didn't go to the funeral and do not regret it.
Think of yourself. Bless!

Festoonlights · 01/09/2022 17:06

Midpmcoffee · 01/09/2022 16:58

Oh come on

op doesn’t have a relationship with brother or mother and you expect the funeral to be postponed until it fits in with OP’s cruise plans?? Does that sound remotely on the cards as being a possibility? No.

This is a scenario where you need to act cleverly and decisively.

”I am afraid I have plans that I will not be rescheduling as my children are very excited about it. Thank you for letting me know and I am sorry for your loss”

We don't know how they are feeling, as we don't know the circumstances do we?

It might be that they are expecting op to be there. I am wondering why they would tell her otherwise.

Op needs to come to her own decision, and she needs to be given the option to go to the funeral if she wants to. Most families work around available dates, I know dh's side of the family did and some of them were estranged as well. It is common practice regardless of how difficult things have been.

LidlCinnamonBun · 01/09/2022 17:07

I am estranged from some family members.
I wouldn’t miss a holiday for their funeral.
I wouldn’t got no matter what. As far as I am concerned part of being estranged is not being part of their life - or death.
I hope you are ok OP and you make a choice that is alright for you.
💐

catandcoffee · 01/09/2022 17:08

Go with your rebellious side OP.

Enjoy your holiday and see how things are when you return.

Do what's best for you and your children... don't worry about anyone else.

Bodice · 01/09/2022 17:08

I am estranged from my father and probably wouldn’t go to his funeral. I don’t see the point of paying my respects to someone I don’t respect and having to make small talk with a bunch of people I don’t know or like.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 01/09/2022 17:10

Agree with others. Go on
the holiday. Let your mother and brother know when you’ll be back so they can arrange it for then. If not, enjoy yourself anyway. If you haven’t been talking for that long, what’s the point?

Somanymistakes · 01/09/2022 17:10

Don't cancel. There is no reason the funeral can't be delayed for two weeks. It's unlikely to be scheduled before then tbh.

The only issue you may have is if there are spiteful family members, they may schedule it for when you are away. I hope your family aren't as horrible as mine!
Sending love ❤️

theluckiest · 01/09/2022 17:11

Sorry for your loss op Flowers

I think it highly unlikely that the funeral will be next week. There's usually at least a 2 week wait as the funeral directors will need to coordinate timings, book a slot at the church or crematorium.

My Mum died at the beginning of this summer holiday. One concern was that everyone had booked holidays (including us). But we settled on a date nearly 4 weeks after she died which suited everyone.

Go on your break. Enjoy the time with your family. I'm so glad I got to go away as I needed the break and headspace TBH

CrotchetyQuaver · 01/09/2022 17:12

Tell them the date you're back from holiday and see if they're prepared to wait for you to be there. If that's what you want. I lost my mum in 2020, my dad in 2021 and both times it was about 3 weeks before we had the cremation/funeral.

If you didn't go in your situation, I wouldn't be judging you.
Are they likely to be asking you to help them out financially?

Karabish · 01/09/2022 17:14

Estranged from my father here. I'd be going on the holiday if it were me and my father and I never actually fell out.
Just distanced myself.

I hope you go, have a wonderful time and make some memories with those that matter x

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/09/2022 17:16

If died yesterday unless Irish unlikely to have funeral in the next week

i wouid message them and say along the lines of thank uou for letting you know - Brother could have easily not

and that you are out of the country till xx date and you hope the funeral will be after so you can come

iRun2eatCake · 01/09/2022 17:17

My dad and GP funerals also took 4 weeks.

My DM didn't attend her DF. She said to us that she'd already said "goodbye" when they went NC with each other.

Mum did however have a moment of private reflection after the funeral, remembering the nicer times. She has never regretted not attending.

I would go on holiday and spend your precious time with your family and those who love you.

Qik · 01/09/2022 17:21

You will not be doing right whatever you decide. Dysfunctional and toxic families find ways to pull members down whatever they do.

Put your own nuclear family first and go on holiday.

It is important to break chains sometimes. I think you know this though.

Chickenleggs · 01/09/2022 17:23

So sorry for your loss OP - even though you had a difficult relationship, these things are never easy! My nana died on 19 August and her funeral isn't until 15 September (that's the first date they could offer us) as the system to organise a funeral is incredibly long and time consuming post Covid so I genuinely don't think it will happen whilst you're on holiday - enjoy and hope you have the best time.

Thegroaninggurner · 01/09/2022 17:24

Sorry for your loss but I would go on the cruise, it's not as if you were close. The saying you can choose your friends but not your family is so true.

gumball37 · 01/09/2022 17:40

You and your family should enjoy your cruise!