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Traditions in his family are weird, If I have to do that. I will do it myself!!!

350 replies

newmumy2022 · 18/08/2022 09:00

My partner's family tradition is weird.
Must have had earrings in my daughter's ears when she was three months old.
I was resistant. But if I really had to do it, I would do it myself.

Is there anyone in or around Liverpool who has done Baby ear piercings?
Any good places to recommend?
And what kind of earrings should I prepare?

I wonder if maybe this kind of mini earrings could fit?

https://www.trendollajewelry.com/collections/nap-earrings/products/trendolla-king-crown-earrings-ball-back-earrings-nap-earrings

Help!!!
FFFF!!!

OP posts:
RaRaRaspoutine · 18/08/2022 10:26

KermitlovesKeyLimePie · 18/08/2022 10:25

Not listening are you OP?

How old are you?

This is my question.

OP - Do. Not. Pierce. Is that clear?

SoupDragon · 18/08/2022 10:26

newmumy2022 · 18/08/2022 10:23

I am crying and laughing!
But does anyone here have any recommendations for ear piercing places?
and children's earrings?

No reputable piercing place will piece a baby's ears.

EgonSpengler2020 · 18/08/2022 10:26

newmumy2022 · 18/08/2022 10:23

I am crying and laughing!
But does anyone here have any recommendations for ear piercing places?
and children's earrings?

Since you seem to be planning on going ahead, rather than acting in you DD best interests and setting boundaries early in her life, you need to to look in to what other 'traditions' your DH family has as this will be a green light for them ALL to go ahead.

allyouneedismarmite · 18/08/2022 10:26

Why are you looking for earrings for her if you don’t want her ears to be pierced?!

I saw a baby getting her ears pierced in a Claire’s type shop when I was on holiday in the US years ago. It was awful, she was so distressed. I know some people will argue that she won’t remember it but I was 10 when I got mine done and had second and third piercings done in my 20s. I don’t remember the pain either! I don’t understand why you would put a baby through that when they are too young to consent or have the slightest idea what is happening to them. She might not even want her ears pierced when she’s older. I know a fair few people who have never had them done and they get through life just fine.

You are her mother. Stand up for your child and don’t be bullied into this.

JudgeJ · 18/08/2022 10:27

Bretonbear · 18/08/2022 09:04

They are your partners family tradition, not yours. Do not start pandering to stuff like this.

So the child must be raised entirely in the mother's traditions? Maybe there will be things he objects to but he will have to suck it up as you have the 'mother' trump card? Before everyone gets on their hind legs baying for blood, I don't support having young children 's ears pierced and that's from someone whose friends were shocked that our daughter's ears weren't pierced in hospital as was the Med custom! Too many women forget that there are, usually, two parents with equal rights.

10HailMarys · 18/08/2022 10:28

Blushingm · 18/08/2022 09:20

It's actually illegal now

It isn't illegal.

I personally would still advise against it. I have a lot of piercings myself. Proper piercers will only pierce with a sterile needle (much less painful, much cleaner and much gentler than a gun) and will also only pierce children's ears if the child is old enough to explain themselves that they want it done, and can demonstrate that they understand the aftercare process. The place I go to doesn't pierce the ears of children under the age of eight at all.

There will certainly be jewellers, beauticians etc who will pierce a baby's ears, but they will use a piercing gun which is a lot less hygienic and can also be quite dangerous on a baby's ears - a piercing gun basically uses the earring itself to pierce the ear by forcing it through (a bit like using a stapler). The earring isn't very sharp so it doesn't pierce cleanly like a needle, and the actual force of the gun is quite strong, so can cause bruising and cartilage damage even when it's only a lobe piercing, because a baby's ears are so small.

I do have sympathy with your husband's family because, as you say, there are cultures where ear piercing almost at birth is totally normal and standard and of course, in many cases it goes ahead with no problems. Culture and connections and so on can feel really important to people and to them, there is nothing wrong with this practice. But I personally wouldn't risk it for what is essentially a cosmetic procedure - I think I would just explain that although it's part of their culture, on this particular issue you want to do things the way your own culture does it, and wait until your daughter is older.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 18/08/2022 10:28

But does anyone here have any recommendations for ear piercing places ?
and children's earrings ?

So you're looking at piecings and earrings then?

You obviously plan to have your baby mutilated pierced but you want it to be your decision, not your DH/PILs .

Crack on, cause your daughter pain unneccearily and injury if she catches her ear Hmm

LadyDanburysCane · 18/08/2022 10:29

Blushingm · 18/08/2022 09:20

It's actually illegal now

I wish that were true…..

Just say no OP.

RudsyFarmer · 18/08/2022 10:29

I just can’t imagine holding my child down to have some stick needles through her ears. If it’s cultural and both parents feel it’s an integral part of their traditions I could just about get my head around it, but if you don’t want her to have it done then hell no.

CatsAreCrackers · 18/08/2022 10:29

newmumy2022 · 18/08/2022 10:23

I am crying and laughing!
But does anyone here have any recommendations for ear piercing places?
and children's earrings?

Have you read a single comment? Are you ACTUALLY saying you are going to go ahead and mutilate your baby on the say so of a family you aren't even married into? I'm beginning to think you WANT to pierce your baby's ears and then just blame your partner's family.

I'm sorry to say it, but unless you are under threat of physical harm (and even then, that wouldn't stop me, but at least it was understandable and people on here could point you in the direction of help if you admit it) then you are an AWFUL mother and I would never say that lightly.

Causing pain to your tiny daughter because you won't say no and stick to it? Awful, and quite frankly utterly disgusting behaviour!! I despair!

shockthemonkey · 18/08/2022 10:30

OP, just stand your ground! You will be so proud of yourself if you do.

What did you mean here :

"I really care about my partner!
I am worried about losing!!!"

Are you worried about losing the argument over the earrings, or are you worried about losing HIM, your partner?

Either way, the advice is the same. This is YOUR child and you get to decide. If there is any clash of opinions, as PPs have said, you DO NOT go ahead.

Example: mum wants boy to be circumcised, dad doesn't --> boy does NOT get circumcised.

10HailMarys · 18/08/2022 10:30

Oh, and as for earrings - you will just have to go with what the piercer has available. They will show you a selection and you'll just have to pick one. They will pierce your baby's ear with the earring itself and then you'll have to leave those in until it's healed.

CrimsonCountess · 18/08/2022 10:30

Why are you so desperate for recommendations of where to get it done? Just say no and don't do it

Brigante9 · 18/08/2022 10:34

Tradition=peer pressure from dead people. Just stand firm and say no. Surely your partner will not dump you because of this? I would have one big stand about it and then ban the conversation. If it’s not your dp demanding it then everyone else can go hang.

Blossomtoes · 18/08/2022 10:34

newmumy2022 · 18/08/2022 10:23

I am crying and laughing!
But does anyone here have any recommendations for ear piercing places?
and children's earrings?

If it’s such a tradition ask his family where it should be done. You’ve come to the wrong place for recommendations because most of us wouldn’t entertain the idea.

BlessedBeTheFruitCake · 18/08/2022 10:35

You can say no. Nowhere safe and reputable will agree to pierce a little one’s ears 😏

if FGM was traditional in your dps family would you agree to that too, just to keep the peace!? There are times when you smile and nod and there are times when you put your foot down and advocate for your child. This is one of those times, op.

newmumy2022 · 18/08/2022 10:35

10HailMarys · 18/08/2022 10:28

It isn't illegal.

I personally would still advise against it. I have a lot of piercings myself. Proper piercers will only pierce with a sterile needle (much less painful, much cleaner and much gentler than a gun) and will also only pierce children's ears if the child is old enough to explain themselves that they want it done, and can demonstrate that they understand the aftercare process. The place I go to doesn't pierce the ears of children under the age of eight at all.

There will certainly be jewellers, beauticians etc who will pierce a baby's ears, but they will use a piercing gun which is a lot less hygienic and can also be quite dangerous on a baby's ears - a piercing gun basically uses the earring itself to pierce the ear by forcing it through (a bit like using a stapler). The earring isn't very sharp so it doesn't pierce cleanly like a needle, and the actual force of the gun is quite strong, so can cause bruising and cartilage damage even when it's only a lobe piercing, because a baby's ears are so small.

I do have sympathy with your husband's family because, as you say, there are cultures where ear piercing almost at birth is totally normal and standard and of course, in many cases it goes ahead with no problems. Culture and connections and so on can feel really important to people and to them, there is nothing wrong with this practice. But I personally wouldn't risk it for what is essentially a cosmetic procedure - I think I would just explain that although it's part of their culture, on this particular issue you want to do things the way your own culture does it, and wait until your daughter is older.

Much appreciated!

OP posts:
Suedomin · 18/08/2022 10:36

newmumy2022 · 18/08/2022 09:00

My partner's family tradition is weird.
Must have had earrings in my daughter's ears when she was three months old.
I was resistant. But if I really had to do it, I would do it myself.

Is there anyone in or around Liverpool who has done Baby ear piercings?
Any good places to recommend?
And what kind of earrings should I prepare?

I wonder if maybe this kind of mini earrings could fit?

https://www.trendollajewelry.com/collections/nap-earrings/products/trendolla-king-crown-earrings-ball-back-earrings-nap-earrings

Help!!!
FFFF!!!

really care about my partner!
I am worried about losing!!!

Presumably you also care about your baby and you should out her needs first.
Would your partner really leave you if you refused to have your baby's ears pierced? If so I really think you need to rethink your relationship.

FunsizedandFabulous · 18/08/2022 10:36

newmumy2022 · 18/08/2022 10:23

I am crying and laughing!
But does anyone here have any recommendations for ear piercing places?
and children's earrings?

Heavens, the woman who did DD (see my earlier post) said she wouldn't do kids under 5.

Fraaahnces · 18/08/2022 10:37

@newmumy2022 - My DH had the stupid idea that our DS would be psychologically damaged if he wasn't circumcised like his Daddy. I think it's barbaric and know that barely any baby boys are circumcised these days. Didn't matter too much to DH. I told him that I would never consent to it, but (because I know him so well) I told him that if it meant that much to him, then he could organise it. There was only one doctor in the town we lived in who performed circumcisions and it had to be done either prior to six weeks or after 2nd bday under anaesthetic. I gave DH the details and left it to him. He came home when DS and his twin sister were probably about 8 or 9 months old, after having spoken to our GP about it and was shocked to discover that he'd have to wait. I knew this would happen and the circumcision wouldn't. (Obviously if he had gotten around to it, I would have kicked up the biggest stink). DS is 16 and not remotely damaged because his willy doesn't match his dad's.

Limer · 18/08/2022 10:38

@newmumy2022

Just say no, because you don't want to cause unnecessary pain and potential infection for your baby DD.

Have you read any of the other comments?

Brefugee · 18/08/2022 10:38

Keep saying no. No no no.

xogossipgirlxo · 18/08/2022 10:40

I don't think any reliable piercer will do it. God Forbid you go to places that use piercing gun.

KettrickenSmiled · 18/08/2022 10:40

newmumy2022 · 18/08/2022 10:23

I am crying and laughing!
But does anyone here have any recommendations for ear piercing places?
and children's earrings?

So ... you don't want your baby's ears pierced, but are gonna do it anyway?

Sure thing OP.
You are taking the piss.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 18/08/2022 10:41

FGM and circumcision are really not the same though.
My DD has had a few piercings ( lobe, helix, tragus, belly button) all her choice and the earliest was the summer holiday before secondary

Some she has removed and they have healed .
So they are reversible unless you have a tissue tear and it needs stitched (which would be more likely with a child who might catch the jewellery )

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