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The ex wife wants him back..

233 replies

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 14:40

Hi all, I was just hoping for some words of wisdom on how to deal with this situation because it is very raw and I feel very emotional. Please look at this objectively and I ask that the first response isn't "throw this one back" I just need some advice on what to do if anything.

I met a guy of tinder some while ago, he was very open from the get go and said he was separated but not yet divorced. He explained his wife and him drifted apart owing to the nature of his work and lock down making it worse. They share a pre-teenage daughter whom he sees at weekends.

Twice during the relationship he told me I deserved better and tried to push me away, but I told him no, I took a chance on him because he was decent and kind, made me feel like I mattered and I truly believed he was my one.

Some months went past and we have settled nicely into a relationship and then he is due for promotion at his work place. His workplace want him to spend some time overseas also.

Upon handovers with his wife he informed her of this and this has started to pique her interest.
A further two times he told me she got upset that he was going away and that he should be accompanying her and their daughter on a trip abroad they have in the summer instead of going overseas to work.

I have to stress this man has been nothing but open and honest with me about everything, I fully believe he was/is separated and wasn't just biding his time.

This week, his wife asked to meet with him after work and he went there and she has in essence said they should put their differences aside and try again for the sake of their daughter.

This prompted him to immediately send me a war and peace message with how much he loves me but he wants more time with his daughter and he is torn.

We spoke on the phone and please believe me when I say he was distraught, over and over again he kept telling me he loved me, I have never known anyone to have been so upset. He said he loves me, but he also loves his daughter and having the chance to have her back home as he missed out on the early years through work it is pulling him greatly. He said he thought we should seperate whilst he thought about things as it wasn't fair to me to keep me waiting.

I was brutally honest with him on the phone and said that if he goes back, to never contact me ever again if this doesn't work out.

He said a life going back to his wife would be miserable and they would be more like brother and sister or house mates, there is zero passion in their relationship and he is not in love with her... even he said he did not know how he would be able to do it, but he is considering it for the sake of his daughter.

We exchanged various WhatsApp's over the course of the evening and he reiterated that he has not said yes to her and that he has just said he needs time to think because it has been almost three years of separation.

When I went to sleep, he sent me a message whilst I was asleep to tell me he couldn't have me walk out of his life and he'll tell her no, the current set up with his daughter is working fine and after his promotion he is likely not even get to see her that much during the week in any case.

In essence, this feels to me like he acted in haste by messaging me immediately after meeting his wife and he regrets it.

Just to be clear, it is the wife that wants him back and not the other way around.

I told him I am angry in the way in which he has handled things, and thought we would deal with this together rather than him saying we should separate via text message, this felt so disrespectful.

I am now torn as to what to do, he is about go away for several weeks and I will not see him (no he isn't going away with the wife)

I have been proud and not messaged him since we spoke last.

To be honest, I feel pretty heartbroken.

I feel like I was just an after thought and he had absolutely no respect for me whatsoever to send me a message.

I feel like he will forever be beholden to the wife and that she has this hold over him with his daughter as the daughter lives full time with her (he only sees her at weekends)

He's expressed he cannot let me walk out of his life after consideration and is begging me not to block and delete him, however once again, I feel like an afterthought.

Please tell me what I should do because every fibre of my being wants to call him to say ok let's try again, but the pride in me is refraining because I told him he would only have one chance of happiness.

Does he sound genuine? a chancer? like someone who has made a mistake?

I just don't know.

OP posts:
WotsitsQuavers · 14/07/2022 14:43

Lose the bastard.

Iamsnoopy · 14/07/2022 14:44

In a quick summary - you deserve better.
when people push you away or men tell you that you are too good for them - it’s testing your boundaries.

why do you feel that the deserve this excuse of a relationship.

get a stress free, respectful relationship without exes causing grief / you deserve so much better

StopStartStop · 14/07/2022 14:52

Too long, too long...
'War and peace message' - is that something else too long?
Whatever.
He's a creep, never fully separated from his wife, he's strung you along.
You've displayed Klingon characteristics, wouldn't let him push you away when he tried.
Hang on to your pride, let it see you through.
Forget him.

FlibbertyGiblets · 14/07/2022 14:53

Also three years seperated and no movement towards divorce tells you something: He isn't a free man, he is a married man.

I am so sorry.

Please believe him when he shows you who is really is - a dilettante playing with your emotions, an unengaged parent (weekends only, what a great dad he is, eh) blaming work and not taking responsibility.

You keep your head high. Shut him out. What a chancer.

Jeunein · 14/07/2022 14:55

He wants to keep you as his long-term side piece.

Even if he is telling you the truth, why would you want to put your life on hold like this? He will presumably be staying with his wife until the child is at least 18?

bjrce · 14/07/2022 14:57

Tell him to come back to you when he's divorced. He has too much going on.

If he's separated 3 years there should be no issue pushing that through - his relationship with his daughter won't change -
If he stays married to his wife you will forever be pushed around the place listening to his tale of woe.

What utter bullshit - " Can't let you go! " . Tell him actions speak louder than words.
He will respect you more if you stand your ground!

Then you'll know if he is sincere.

Sartre · 14/07/2022 15:00

Why even bother with him. He should have told his ex wife no immediately and let that be the end of it. I can understand wanting to spend more time with his DC but he could always request this through court if needs be. He doesn’t have to go back to a miserable marriage just to see his DD more often, why even leave in the first place if he wanted that?

If he truly loved you he wouldn’t have even hesitated in telling his ex no because he’s moved on with you. It’s a new relationship so should still be fun and exciting, you don’t need this hassle and baggage.

CatherinedeBourgh · 14/07/2022 15:01

Did he do anything wrong? He was in a situation which was difficult, and discussed it with you instead of being secretive. There is no indication that he did anything untoward with his wife.

If he hadn't said anything and you had found afterwards text messages or whatever where he was discussing it with anyone else, how would you have felt about it?

What would have been the acceptable course of action here?

girlmom21 · 14/07/2022 15:02

He was hoping you'd let him live with her in their 'sexless' marriage and still let him keep you as his side piece.

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 15:05

Sartre · 14/07/2022 15:00

Why even bother with him. He should have told his ex wife no immediately and let that be the end of it. I can understand wanting to spend more time with his DC but he could always request this through court if needs be. He doesn’t have to go back to a miserable marriage just to see his DD more often, why even leave in the first place if he wanted that?

If he truly loved you he wouldn’t have even hesitated in telling his ex no because he’s moved on with you. It’s a new relationship so should still be fun and exciting, you don’t need this hassle and baggage.

This is exactly what I said. If he loved me, he would've had the gumption to tell her he met someone new but he didn't. He made me feel like i was a dirty secret.. He backtracked and said he would tell her but I said no.. It's too late.

OP posts:
CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 15:06

CatherinedeBourgh · 14/07/2022 15:01

Did he do anything wrong? He was in a situation which was difficult, and discussed it with you instead of being secretive. There is no indication that he did anything untoward with his wife.

If he hadn't said anything and you had found afterwards text messages or whatever where he was discussing it with anyone else, how would you have felt about it?

What would have been the acceptable course of action here?

What would you do in this case then?

OP posts:
Eatingchips · 14/07/2022 15:06

Tell him exactly how you feel. Upset? Sad? If you love him - tell him? If you still want a relationship - tell him? A bit betrayed? Whatever you feel.

If he responds to that by choosing to maintain the relationship and setting aside his relationship with his ex then you will have you answer even if he needs some time to weigh up the issues which are considerable. If he chooses her then you have no choice but to let him go. It is absolutely shit but if you have been open and honest with him and he lets you down then that is everything you can do.

Turnthatoff · 14/07/2022 15:06

I vote second chance.

Jeunein · 14/07/2022 15:07

Maybe he hasn't been entirely honest with you from day 1, OP.

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 15:09

Jeunein · 14/07/2022 15:07

Maybe he hasn't been entirely honest with you from day 1, OP.

No. He has been, I believe him.. I know it's hard to translate as mumsnet won't know him but he has told me the truth since day one and there I can't fault him.
But, it's as PP said, if he truly loved me he wouldn't have hesitated. That's what's making me think this isn't meant to be.

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Bogiesaremyonlyfriend · 14/07/2022 15:10

My husband gave the same script to his other woman, whilst begging for me to take him back after he (unbeknownst to me at the time) left me for her. He spent 4 hours on the phone to her essentially saying exactly the same, how much he loves her, how he is devastated to be coming back to me, after spending months and months begging me to take him back. You might believe him, but his ow believe my h and it was a pack of lies. She might be you to be fair.

youwouldthink · 14/07/2022 15:11

He's either with her and you're the OW Or you're the insurance policy if it doesn't go to plan.

Carrotmum · 14/07/2022 15:15

Why does he have to live with his ex to see his daughter more often? “He missed out on the early years due to work” so even when they were a family unit he didn’t bother then. Why hasn’t he asked for 50/50 contact since they’ve separated, why hasn’t he looked into changing jobs rather than going away overseas for work when he’s apparently so desperate to spend more time with his child?
He sounds like a total bullshitter, makes no attempts to actually spend more time with his child right now, but is going to magnanimously sacrifice his happiness and move back to his ex but only to see more of his daughter? That sounds plausible!

WhenDovesFly · 14/07/2022 15:17

So you've been with this guy for a good number of months but he's never let on to his estranged wife that he has met someone else? That doesn't bode well.

Why has he not started divorce proceedings after 3 years apart?

What sort of message does he think it would send to his DD that people should continue to live together in unhappy relationships for the sake of "keeping the family together"? That he even contemplated this arrangement as an acceptable proposition is laughable.

It was very disrespectful of him to try and break up with you by text.

Overall he's not showing himself in a good light OP and I'm not sure I could forgive him any of this.

thatbigbear · 14/07/2022 15:17

I'm with @bjrce, tell him to go away and sort his life out, and then come back to you once he's done that.

He'll either sort it or he won't...and in the meantime hold onto your dignity, don't beg, don't even contact him, and get on with your life.

If and when he comes back to you, then you will know whether you still want him.

Changedagain876 · 14/07/2022 15:18

For me the major red flag is “twice during the relationship he’s tried to push me away saying I deserve better”

you’ve been together a while and he’s not even told his ex about you.

sorry OP but it doesn’t read like a true love story.

Sandra1984 · 14/07/2022 15:18

Someone needs to write a "mans talk dictionary" asap with the real meaning behind certain terms & words in the online dating world, one of the most popular being "I am separated" which means: I am very much married but don't get along with my wife. The sequel of this would be: "I'm getting back with my wife" which means: Fact is I was always with her and now I want to end my relationship with you and it's a great excuse for dumping you.

SanFranBear · 14/07/2022 15:20

Carrotmum - you've typed what I wanted to say... every word!

Sandra1984 · 14/07/2022 15:25

Girl you've been played with the oldest line on the book... That's one strong kool aid you've been given.

Greener pastures are awaiting for you.

EmmaH2022 · 14/07/2022 15:25

OP they would be divorced by now if that’s the plan.