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The ex wife wants him back..

233 replies

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 14:40

Hi all, I was just hoping for some words of wisdom on how to deal with this situation because it is very raw and I feel very emotional. Please look at this objectively and I ask that the first response isn't "throw this one back" I just need some advice on what to do if anything.

I met a guy of tinder some while ago, he was very open from the get go and said he was separated but not yet divorced. He explained his wife and him drifted apart owing to the nature of his work and lock down making it worse. They share a pre-teenage daughter whom he sees at weekends.

Twice during the relationship he told me I deserved better and tried to push me away, but I told him no, I took a chance on him because he was decent and kind, made me feel like I mattered and I truly believed he was my one.

Some months went past and we have settled nicely into a relationship and then he is due for promotion at his work place. His workplace want him to spend some time overseas also.

Upon handovers with his wife he informed her of this and this has started to pique her interest.
A further two times he told me she got upset that he was going away and that he should be accompanying her and their daughter on a trip abroad they have in the summer instead of going overseas to work.

I have to stress this man has been nothing but open and honest with me about everything, I fully believe he was/is separated and wasn't just biding his time.

This week, his wife asked to meet with him after work and he went there and she has in essence said they should put their differences aside and try again for the sake of their daughter.

This prompted him to immediately send me a war and peace message with how much he loves me but he wants more time with his daughter and he is torn.

We spoke on the phone and please believe me when I say he was distraught, over and over again he kept telling me he loved me, I have never known anyone to have been so upset. He said he loves me, but he also loves his daughter and having the chance to have her back home as he missed out on the early years through work it is pulling him greatly. He said he thought we should seperate whilst he thought about things as it wasn't fair to me to keep me waiting.

I was brutally honest with him on the phone and said that if he goes back, to never contact me ever again if this doesn't work out.

He said a life going back to his wife would be miserable and they would be more like brother and sister or house mates, there is zero passion in their relationship and he is not in love with her... even he said he did not know how he would be able to do it, but he is considering it for the sake of his daughter.

We exchanged various WhatsApp's over the course of the evening and he reiterated that he has not said yes to her and that he has just said he needs time to think because it has been almost three years of separation.

When I went to sleep, he sent me a message whilst I was asleep to tell me he couldn't have me walk out of his life and he'll tell her no, the current set up with his daughter is working fine and after his promotion he is likely not even get to see her that much during the week in any case.

In essence, this feels to me like he acted in haste by messaging me immediately after meeting his wife and he regrets it.

Just to be clear, it is the wife that wants him back and not the other way around.

I told him I am angry in the way in which he has handled things, and thought we would deal with this together rather than him saying we should separate via text message, this felt so disrespectful.

I am now torn as to what to do, he is about go away for several weeks and I will not see him (no he isn't going away with the wife)

I have been proud and not messaged him since we spoke last.

To be honest, I feel pretty heartbroken.

I feel like I was just an after thought and he had absolutely no respect for me whatsoever to send me a message.

I feel like he will forever be beholden to the wife and that she has this hold over him with his daughter as the daughter lives full time with her (he only sees her at weekends)

He's expressed he cannot let me walk out of his life after consideration and is begging me not to block and delete him, however once again, I feel like an afterthought.

Please tell me what I should do because every fibre of my being wants to call him to say ok let's try again, but the pride in me is refraining because I told him he would only have one chance of happiness.

Does he sound genuine? a chancer? like someone who has made a mistake?

I just don't know.

OP posts:
Almostthere1 · 14/07/2022 15:26

OP - please don’t waste your life and end it now. Love is sometimes not enough and with this type of guy your needs will always come after his ‘real family’ needs….

Potatoheadrules · 14/07/2022 15:27

People can fake being upset, OP.
His wife and daughter will always be in your life if you stay with him. Sorry you've had to go through this.

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 15:29

I need to see this stuff, I do.. It's helping me.
It keeps coming back to quite simply if he loved me he would have told her the day they met about me, but he didn't..
He is a coward and I am heartbroken I have to let him go, but everything that has been posted is correct.

OP posts:
MissMaple82 · 14/07/2022 15:30

Does he sound genuine??? Errrrr no!!!!

Robin233 · 14/07/2022 15:36

It would be a really bad idea for him to go back for his daughter.
I knew someone who's parents did. The DD just can't form relationships- no one show her how.
If it was me I'd say 'ok - money where your mouth is. Tell ex about op and start divorce proceedings. '
I was 2 years before divorce as I wanted a no blame divorce'
Could be they've just not got round to it - especially if they have been co Parenting well.

Aquamarine1029 · 14/07/2022 15:36

He's has been playing you for a total fool, and it's astonishing that you believe all this drivel he's been spouting. Block him and move on with your life.

Namechangenoidea · 14/07/2022 15:36

Im sorry but if he had loved you enough I believe it would have been the most easiest no to his ex-wife. He shouldnt have to think about it. My advice would be not to contact him, if he contacts you, you say contact me again when you have filed for divorce.

velvetvixen · 14/07/2022 15:47

Who needs all this ridiculous melodrama in their life?

Men aren't an endangered species - go get one who is drivel-free

Sittingonabench · 14/07/2022 15:49

It depends on what you believe this man to be. If he is the person you can see your life with then I would accept that he was put into a position where he felt he was going to have to choose between you and his daughter and he reacted. Explain it hurt that he considered leaving you so quickly and that it has raised questions as to his commitment. Tell him going back without something changing is not possible. So what will change? Tell him if he is wanting to continue a relationship he needs to be free - that means telling ex about you and your relationship and completing divorce proceedings (this can take a while). Ask how he sees your relationship developing? You need to be a consideration - what happens if mother reacts against new relationship? He needs to have your back while protecting his daughter

StinkyWizzleteets · 14/07/2022 15:51

Not convinced she’s his ex-wife - it sounds like he’s played you OP and despite your insistence that he’s been honest, you’re just the OW.

He’s been as honest as he needs to be to keep the ruse up, it’s much easier to work with a modicum of truth than outright lies. It means it’s far easier if caught out. Now he’s giving it a go with the wife after her finding out those long drives away for work we’re actually him shagging you, just like his long drives away for work we’re him shagging her. He’s hysterical on the phone because he’s been caught out and has to end his bit on the side.

im sorry OP, he played you for a fool. Bin his arse and go find yourself someone without all the baggage and bullshit.

Herewegoagain84 · 14/07/2022 15:52

If he truly didn’t want to go back, he wouldn’t.
He would just request more access to his daughter. You say “it’s just her that wants him back, not vice versa”, but it takes two people to make that decision. If his relationship was as dire as you describe, it wouldn’t even be an option for him, considering he’s been gone three years. You are being massively played.

sensinggettingcloser · 14/07/2022 15:53

Best case scenario is that him and his wife separated, he met you in that time, fell for you, then realised he must choose. First of all he chose his old life, then he chose you. I wouldn't be happy that he chose me second, even if that was his final decision. I would be forever wondering if he's going to change his mind.

AskEvans · 14/07/2022 16:02

Why would he accept a promotion which includes spending time overseas - he would see his daughter less! So he cant then turn round and say he wants your relationship to end as he wants to see her more.
You're not important enough to him - he wouldnt dare treat you in any way that would risk losing you.

Dozycuntlaters · 14/07/2022 16:05

I feel like he will forever be beholden to the wife and that she has this hold over him with his daughter as the daughter lives full time with her (he only sees her at weekends)

OP, this is EXACTLY what is going to happen. Every time his wife bleats on about something being up the the daughter he is going to ditch everything and go running. She will use that to her full advantage. My sister has this with her boyfriend, and I have no idea how she puts up with it. The ex will think nothing of messaging at 11pm on a Saturday night and off he will trot. Your fella sounds like a very weak man, why on earth has he not told her about you? Crying on the phone because he loves you so much when a few hours earlier he was prepared to dump you and go back to her. Honestly, I know it's hard but you need to cut him loose. It will just get worse and worse and you are going to end up feeling like you are bottom of the pile and start feeling resentful.

bjrce · 14/07/2022 16:06

Actually listening to all these wise women on Mumsnet - the whole ruse of a new big promotion and travelling away - the wife now becoming more interested and him making a go of things with his "exwife" is complete and utter lies! this is his way of breaking up with YOU! only, he is just getting you to do his dirty work for him.

His being distraught are all crocodile tears" .
I wouldn't let him get away with it as easy as that - call his bluff- tell him you want to meet his daughter, tell him to inform his wife about you and your wonderful relationship together.

Guarantee he'll either "break down " with his crocodile tears again or ghost you!
He is a total lying bullshitter!
What's even worse is he had you believing in him.

This is not his first rodeo!

Ontomatopea · 14/07/2022 16:08

He's expressed he cannot let me walk out of his life wtf does that mean..he can't stop you.. walk away and don't look back. Its too messy.

SuperCamp · 14/07/2022 16:13

I think you precipitated some of this when you gave him your high pressure response: that he could never have contacted you again.

Honestly, I would have said ‘you need to think very carefully about what you truly want, and I don’t want to influence that’. Because then, had he turned down his ex’s offer, you would have known it was his truest wish to be with you.

He did you the honour of being honest with you and laying his heart bare, but this has made you feel as if you are second best.

Though he was obviously having doubts earlier on.

You seem very set in immediate black or white situations. This was always going to be tricky when he was so recently separated and not yet divorced.

If they only broke up after lockdown it’s still early days. In both his separation and your relationship.

CruCru · 14/07/2022 16:14

Honestly? The first thing that jumps out at me is that this guy comes with a LOT of drama. He has a complicated relationship with his ex / current wife and pushes and pulls you - God it's exhausting.

KittyCatsby · 14/07/2022 16:35

Have you ever been / stayed at his place ?

Pokske · 14/07/2022 16:41

They all sound genuine, until their story begins to crack.
Have you been at his place ? Was he even separated ?
If his life won't be nice in case he returns to his wife, why is he even contemplating it ? For the daughter - who will then live in a non-nice household ?

wellhelloitsme · 14/07/2022 16:42

He said he loves me, but he also loves his daughter and having the chance to have her back home as he missed out on the early years through work it is pulling him greatly.

even he said he did not know how he would be able to do it, but he is considering it for the sake of his daughter.

And yet...

the current set up with his daughter is working fine and after his promotion he is likely not even get to see her that much during the week in any case.

Goodness. He got over wanting to be a more present dad who spent more time with his daughter pretty quickly didn't he?

All that plus the fact he even considered this despite seeing you. And that you were a secret.

This is over simplifying but I'm tired... how can you possibly have the energy to be arsed with this potentially problematic dynamic for the rest of your life?

Life is short. Be with someone who doesn't come with loads of baggage and is sure about being with you. Proud of being with you.

And if you don't meet that person, being single is infinitely better than being with the wrong one.

PoshHorseyBird · 14/07/2022 16:47

It all sounds like a huge complication and very hard work and relationships really dont need to be like that. Tell him you'll talk to him again when he's divorced. But make it clear you won't be sitting around waiting for him.

lucylooareyou · 14/07/2022 16:53

I always seem to find myself on the other side of the fence to most - but maybe it is a possibility that men can be in a complex emotional situation and don't always respond/react perfectly immediately. Does that mean they need casting aside as another 'bad egg' ?

This man (who only you know) has been propositioned by a women who may he may not love anymore, but has history with who will know all of his buttons to press. It sounds like his cyrponite is his daughter, and she used this one to her full advantage to make her proposition more attractive.
Him not responding instantly with a no may not be a reflection on how much he loves you etc, but a reflection on what he is willing to do to be a full time dad again. Not all fathers are happy with the E.O.W deal and long to be a full time dad, again this doesnt take anything away from your relationship.

It sounds to me that upon leaving his old home, his ex wife, his daughters home - he was able to relfect properly in a neutral place and came to a more conclusive decision that your relationship is worth saving.

To me - that would mean more than an instant 'i chose you' without any due process or thought. Life isnt a romcom, relationships are complex and require thought and choice. Both of which your DP has done, and chosen you.

Whilst i would agree that texting to seperate is cowardly and would need addressing in the future - it wouldnt be a deal breaker for me. If you feel your relationships worth it

MzHz · 14/07/2022 16:57

I feel like he will forever be beholden to the wife and that she has this hold over him with his daughter as the daughter lives full time with her (he only sees her at weekends)

This is EXACTLY the best you can hope for - she won't stop, and he won't draw a line unless he has to, then, even then I don't think she'll let go.

You deserve better. the signs were there from the start and you ignored them.

I had an ex who 'let me know that he had had a GF (in a different country) and that she would not take it well knowing he'd moved on. He never ever told her about us, I was always kept a secret and she still thought she had 'dibs' on him.

She hung on for - what - 15 years... in that time I'd lived with him, had his child and then she even said she'd love his child as much as if it were her own...' that was toward the end of my relationship with him and i told him that over HIS dead body would she ever even look at him...

The issue here Is - as you know - HIM. HE could and should have cut this off at the pass right t the beginning and he didn't. That in itself is enough and should have been what prompted you to end it.

Stop being a chump. end it Show him what a life without you looks like and then he knows he has to choose. i though would warn anyone in this scenario not to, because she WILL blight your lives, manipulate every waking minute of your lives through their dd

wellhelloitsme · 14/07/2022 16:59

lucylooareyou · 14/07/2022 16:53

I always seem to find myself on the other side of the fence to most - but maybe it is a possibility that men can be in a complex emotional situation and don't always respond/react perfectly immediately. Does that mean they need casting aside as another 'bad egg' ?

This man (who only you know) has been propositioned by a women who may he may not love anymore, but has history with who will know all of his buttons to press. It sounds like his cyrponite is his daughter, and she used this one to her full advantage to make her proposition more attractive.
Him not responding instantly with a no may not be a reflection on how much he loves you etc, but a reflection on what he is willing to do to be a full time dad again. Not all fathers are happy with the E.O.W deal and long to be a full time dad, again this doesnt take anything away from your relationship.

It sounds to me that upon leaving his old home, his ex wife, his daughters home - he was able to relfect properly in a neutral place and came to a more conclusive decision that your relationship is worth saving.

To me - that would mean more than an instant 'i chose you' without any due process or thought. Life isnt a romcom, relationships are complex and require thought and choice. Both of which your DP has done, and chosen you.

Whilst i would agree that texting to seperate is cowardly and would need addressing in the future - it wouldnt be a deal breaker for me. If you feel your relationships worth it

His daughter isn't that much cryptonite tbf as he said on reflection that "the current set up with his daughter is working fine and after his promotion he is likely not even get to see her that much during the week in any case."