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The ex wife wants him back..

233 replies

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 14:40

Hi all, I was just hoping for some words of wisdom on how to deal with this situation because it is very raw and I feel very emotional. Please look at this objectively and I ask that the first response isn't "throw this one back" I just need some advice on what to do if anything.

I met a guy of tinder some while ago, he was very open from the get go and said he was separated but not yet divorced. He explained his wife and him drifted apart owing to the nature of his work and lock down making it worse. They share a pre-teenage daughter whom he sees at weekends.

Twice during the relationship he told me I deserved better and tried to push me away, but I told him no, I took a chance on him because he was decent and kind, made me feel like I mattered and I truly believed he was my one.

Some months went past and we have settled nicely into a relationship and then he is due for promotion at his work place. His workplace want him to spend some time overseas also.

Upon handovers with his wife he informed her of this and this has started to pique her interest.
A further two times he told me she got upset that he was going away and that he should be accompanying her and their daughter on a trip abroad they have in the summer instead of going overseas to work.

I have to stress this man has been nothing but open and honest with me about everything, I fully believe he was/is separated and wasn't just biding his time.

This week, his wife asked to meet with him after work and he went there and she has in essence said they should put their differences aside and try again for the sake of their daughter.

This prompted him to immediately send me a war and peace message with how much he loves me but he wants more time with his daughter and he is torn.

We spoke on the phone and please believe me when I say he was distraught, over and over again he kept telling me he loved me, I have never known anyone to have been so upset. He said he loves me, but he also loves his daughter and having the chance to have her back home as he missed out on the early years through work it is pulling him greatly. He said he thought we should seperate whilst he thought about things as it wasn't fair to me to keep me waiting.

I was brutally honest with him on the phone and said that if he goes back, to never contact me ever again if this doesn't work out.

He said a life going back to his wife would be miserable and they would be more like brother and sister or house mates, there is zero passion in their relationship and he is not in love with her... even he said he did not know how he would be able to do it, but he is considering it for the sake of his daughter.

We exchanged various WhatsApp's over the course of the evening and he reiterated that he has not said yes to her and that he has just said he needs time to think because it has been almost three years of separation.

When I went to sleep, he sent me a message whilst I was asleep to tell me he couldn't have me walk out of his life and he'll tell her no, the current set up with his daughter is working fine and after his promotion he is likely not even get to see her that much during the week in any case.

In essence, this feels to me like he acted in haste by messaging me immediately after meeting his wife and he regrets it.

Just to be clear, it is the wife that wants him back and not the other way around.

I told him I am angry in the way in which he has handled things, and thought we would deal with this together rather than him saying we should separate via text message, this felt so disrespectful.

I am now torn as to what to do, he is about go away for several weeks and I will not see him (no he isn't going away with the wife)

I have been proud and not messaged him since we spoke last.

To be honest, I feel pretty heartbroken.

I feel like I was just an after thought and he had absolutely no respect for me whatsoever to send me a message.

I feel like he will forever be beholden to the wife and that she has this hold over him with his daughter as the daughter lives full time with her (he only sees her at weekends)

He's expressed he cannot let me walk out of his life after consideration and is begging me not to block and delete him, however once again, I feel like an afterthought.

Please tell me what I should do because every fibre of my being wants to call him to say ok let's try again, but the pride in me is refraining because I told him he would only have one chance of happiness.

Does he sound genuine? a chancer? like someone who has made a mistake?

I just don't know.

OP posts:
Rodion · 14/07/2022 19:16

I think he can be a decent and honest guy who's in a situation he finds overwhelming and difficult. Just because he has some characteristics that are good and desirable deosnt mean he's ready, available or good news for you. So don't get too distracted by the fact that he's been honest etc. That's bare minimum standard and unfortunately he hasn't managed to jump the next hurdles that come after that.

Hutchy16 · 14/07/2022 19:18

Sorry but throw him back, he was never yours…his heart is with another and he has to be able to try to work it out.

you need to find one who is only interested in you

Possiblynotever · 14/07/2022 20:18

Ditch.

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 20:20

So a 360 happened. I received a very emotional phone call to say he's told her about us and he's put out there exactly how he feels about me and its up to me whether I believe it or not but he has told her he can't go back to the marriage but still wants to be a good and present father.
Not sure what my next move is.

OP posts:
WTF475878237NC · 14/07/2022 20:29

I'm unsure whether anything he's told you about their supposedly miserable marriage is true. But even if it is, there is a shared history there and obviously fondness as neither have moved to divorce. I wouldn't be quick to take anything he says as read. I think he is just telling you what you want to hear now.

Outlyingtrout · 14/07/2022 20:31

So he was utterly distraught about not seeing his daughter but then decided to go for a promotion which will limit his opportunities to see her further 🤔 and despite all the drama and proclamations that he misses his kid so much that he can't cope, he just decided actually he didn't need to go back to his wife because after the new job starts he won't have chance to see the child anyway.

Yeah he sounds like a prince.

I don't think he really gives a shit about any of you. I think he was testing you out (early days with the "you deserve better" crap and then currently with all this "I love you but I must return to my wife" stuff) and you've clung to him like a limpet at every turn so he feels like you're a secure bet. He also is happy to string his poor wife along when it suits. And he enjoys the brownie points he gets from claiming to be such a loving father that he's heartbroken at being separated from his child, whilst actively making lifestyle choices that cause that separation.

fishingeagle · 14/07/2022 20:42

@CapriSun090 I'm sure he believes what he's saying when he says it. But only for that moment. His marriage isn't all played out yet believe me. It sounds like nothing but heartache in store for you and I would be moving on. Plenty more fish.

CanYouNotReadTheSign · 14/07/2022 20:47

I'm sorry you're going through so much heartache but this man is a liar who only truly loves himself. He's tried to dump you three times now but can't even file for divorce after three years of apparent separation? I suspect his latest change of heart is down to his wife (quite rightly) chucking him out/dumping him.

NotaCoolMum · 14/07/2022 20:57

Shes STILL his wife. Not Ex Wife.

NotaCoolMum · 14/07/2022 20:59

honestly I’d tell him he needs to get a divorce before you continue seeing him. Three years is a long time to be separated without a divorce. I’d definitely be wary op but I wish you lots of luck 🌻

AssemblySquare · 14/07/2022 21:03

He’s married, you’re the OW and this is an affair not a relationship.
He’s not a decent man, he is an untrustworthy liar. The very fact he was willing to get involved with you whilst married to the mother of his child speaks volumes.

Treat yourself with respect and find a proper man.

KettrickenSmiled · 14/07/2022 21:34

but still wants to be a good and present father.

Up to you OP - but as he hasn't actually BEEN a good & present father, it sounds like more bullshit from the same self-justifying angle ...

PeekAtYou · 14/07/2022 21:50

It's unbelievable that this is even a dilemma three years after a split. If there wasn't any love and passion then there's even more time since he felt romantic feelings towards his ex.

He could have had more time with his dd if he'd wanted and it looks like he's using the dd to keep you on your toes. You can't really say much without looking unreasonable because dads seeing their child is a Good Thing

Major red flag that he's wobbled badly twice and could do it again Keep your life drama free and let him do whatever until he goes overseas.

EmmaH2022 · 14/07/2022 21:54

AssemblySquare · 14/07/2022 21:03

He’s married, you’re the OW and this is an affair not a relationship.
He’s not a decent man, he is an untrustworthy liar. The very fact he was willing to get involved with you whilst married to the mother of his child speaks volumes.

Treat yourself with respect and find a proper man.

Exactly this

they could have been divorced ages ago.

Daisy62 · 14/07/2022 21:56

I would expect him to start divorce proceedings. I wouldn't trust him until he's actually divorced.

mostlydrinkstea · 14/07/2022 22:14

I suspect it is really hard to hear but you are this man's mistress. He is married. All the information you have about his marriage is from him. He has made no effort to divorce. He gets the home comforts of wife and home and he also gets the excitement of having a mistress. He is having his cake and eating it.

He has lied to his wife. To be brutal, If he wants you then he gets divorced. With no fault divorce it really doesn't take long. Let his actions show you who he is.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 14/07/2022 22:14

Divorce is messy and complicated
and you have fallen for someone who is not ready
he patently isn’t
i agree with who said to say ‘come back when you are divorced and ready’
lay out your boundaries and walk away

it wont work out with his ex wife
but it might not work out with you either x

Jewel7 · 14/07/2022 22:19

I think you probably know the answer to this but if he wanted you enough he would choose you. He wouldn’t have even considered her as an option. Just because they have a daughter isn’t a reason to return.
Maybe it’s guilt on his part because of his daughter.
maybe he hasn’t been as honest as he has said. Choosing to be miserable is not a option really is it. You need to choose you though.

Freeme31 · 14/07/2022 22:24

You forced his hand and he's chosen you (sometimes they need that push). Only you know if you now love him enough to go for it - is he what you want, can you see him as your future? Is he worth the risk ...

Aquamarine1029 · 14/07/2022 22:30

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 20:20

So a 360 happened. I received a very emotional phone call to say he's told her about us and he's put out there exactly how he feels about me and its up to me whether I believe it or not but he has told her he can't go back to the marriage but still wants to be a good and present father.
Not sure what my next move is.

Don't tell me you actually believe this rubbish. 🙄

Takeitonthechin · 14/07/2022 23:31

Op he's done in the end, exactly what you wanted him to do, so why are you still having doubts. If this is not a big declaration that he loves you and wants to be with you.
Have you ever thought, that his wife didn't want him, she just didn't want you to have him?!
Why can't he be part of his daughters life without his wife having to be there.
You need to sit down with him and talk about how you go forward, that's if you think your relationship is worth saving.

Sunnydays78 · 14/07/2022 23:46

I would step away and tell him you will be living your life while he sorts out his. That way everything he does is because he wants it not because he feels like he should and you don’t need to go through his divorce with him. If it’s meant to be it will be x

Bunty55 · 14/07/2022 23:47

It's almost a textbook situation OP.
I am sure he is a very nice man but he has played a blinder here and it has backfired.
Only you know what you are going to do now. At least he has shown you what he is really like sooner rather than years down the line. He is a fool. You deserve better than this

girlmom21 · 15/07/2022 06:39

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 20:20

So a 360 happened. I received a very emotional phone call to say he's told her about us and he's put out there exactly how he feels about me and its up to me whether I believe it or not but he has told her he can't go back to the marriage but still wants to be a good and present father.
Not sure what my next move is.

So is he starting divorce proceedings today?

ILoveMyCaravan · 15/07/2022 06:56

@CapriSun090 something I read the other day which I really wish I'd read and understood years ago!

  • No response is a response
  • If they wanted to, they would
  • Not everyone has the same heart as you

Pay attention to the second one in particular. Make this your mantra to get you through this.