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The ex wife wants him back..

233 replies

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 14:40

Hi all, I was just hoping for some words of wisdom on how to deal with this situation because it is very raw and I feel very emotional. Please look at this objectively and I ask that the first response isn't "throw this one back" I just need some advice on what to do if anything.

I met a guy of tinder some while ago, he was very open from the get go and said he was separated but not yet divorced. He explained his wife and him drifted apart owing to the nature of his work and lock down making it worse. They share a pre-teenage daughter whom he sees at weekends.

Twice during the relationship he told me I deserved better and tried to push me away, but I told him no, I took a chance on him because he was decent and kind, made me feel like I mattered and I truly believed he was my one.

Some months went past and we have settled nicely into a relationship and then he is due for promotion at his work place. His workplace want him to spend some time overseas also.

Upon handovers with his wife he informed her of this and this has started to pique her interest.
A further two times he told me she got upset that he was going away and that he should be accompanying her and their daughter on a trip abroad they have in the summer instead of going overseas to work.

I have to stress this man has been nothing but open and honest with me about everything, I fully believe he was/is separated and wasn't just biding his time.

This week, his wife asked to meet with him after work and he went there and she has in essence said they should put their differences aside and try again for the sake of their daughter.

This prompted him to immediately send me a war and peace message with how much he loves me but he wants more time with his daughter and he is torn.

We spoke on the phone and please believe me when I say he was distraught, over and over again he kept telling me he loved me, I have never known anyone to have been so upset. He said he loves me, but he also loves his daughter and having the chance to have her back home as he missed out on the early years through work it is pulling him greatly. He said he thought we should seperate whilst he thought about things as it wasn't fair to me to keep me waiting.

I was brutally honest with him on the phone and said that if he goes back, to never contact me ever again if this doesn't work out.

He said a life going back to his wife would be miserable and they would be more like brother and sister or house mates, there is zero passion in their relationship and he is not in love with her... even he said he did not know how he would be able to do it, but he is considering it for the sake of his daughter.

We exchanged various WhatsApp's over the course of the evening and he reiterated that he has not said yes to her and that he has just said he needs time to think because it has been almost three years of separation.

When I went to sleep, he sent me a message whilst I was asleep to tell me he couldn't have me walk out of his life and he'll tell her no, the current set up with his daughter is working fine and after his promotion he is likely not even get to see her that much during the week in any case.

In essence, this feels to me like he acted in haste by messaging me immediately after meeting his wife and he regrets it.

Just to be clear, it is the wife that wants him back and not the other way around.

I told him I am angry in the way in which he has handled things, and thought we would deal with this together rather than him saying we should separate via text message, this felt so disrespectful.

I am now torn as to what to do, he is about go away for several weeks and I will not see him (no he isn't going away with the wife)

I have been proud and not messaged him since we spoke last.

To be honest, I feel pretty heartbroken.

I feel like I was just an after thought and he had absolutely no respect for me whatsoever to send me a message.

I feel like he will forever be beholden to the wife and that she has this hold over him with his daughter as the daughter lives full time with her (he only sees her at weekends)

He's expressed he cannot let me walk out of his life after consideration and is begging me not to block and delete him, however once again, I feel like an afterthought.

Please tell me what I should do because every fibre of my being wants to call him to say ok let's try again, but the pride in me is refraining because I told him he would only have one chance of happiness.

Does he sound genuine? a chancer? like someone who has made a mistake?

I just don't know.

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CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 15:01

8 months. So nothing really.

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ZaraSizeMedium · 15/07/2022 15:07

Had you ever been to his place? Met his friends or family?

worriedatthistime · 15/07/2022 15:43

Difficult one as you obviously care for him, but he could of least discussed in person
My dh was going through a divorce when i met him and when it was about to come through and he had to go pick up some stuff from his soon tO be ex she asked him if they could try again and got upset etc , he said no as he was with me now and that was that.
He told me straight away after. Im not sure how I would of felt if he told her he would think about it and we had only been seeing each other a couple months by then

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 15:50

No i didn't go to his place or meet his family. He came to my place. He hasn't met anyone in my life either. I guess it was similar to an affair set up but I believed he would choose me. Guess I was wrong.

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Sarahthecactus · 15/07/2022 15:56

Thisnis actually pretty typical, studies show women find a man who is proven to be desired by other women more desirable. Ex wife was probably having “the ick” around him but now she’s seen him through your eyes (as an attractive man) she finds him attractive again as she realises another woman does. Weird stuff but true!

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 16:03

No i don't think that it's she finds him attractive. It's the promotion at work and prospect that he will be earning a lot more money.
Regardless, he was never mine anyway. He's a married man who has no gumption to divorce his wife who supposedly makes him miserable.

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SideshowAuntSally · 15/07/2022 16:33

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 16:03

No i don't think that it's she finds him attractive. It's the promotion at work and prospect that he will be earning a lot more money.
Regardless, he was never mine anyway. He's a married man who has no gumption to divorce his wife who supposedly makes him miserable.

Sorry but you don't know this woman to make a judgement like that. She's his wife, they have history, she probably helped him get to where he is today. You make her sound like a gold digger when your issue should be with him.

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 16:39

I can only go by what he's told me granted.

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poetryandwine · 15/07/2022 18:19

Hi, OP -

The fact that you haven’t been to his place definitely makes me think you’ve done the right thing. Not only isn’t he divorced, but there is a chance he is very married.

But I know it is very hard, and I am sorry you are going through this.

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 18:43

He did invite me to his home. I said I'd rather not as its the former family home and wouldn't feel comfortable sleeping in the bed he shared with her. Not excusing him.. But he did invite me several times.

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poetryandwine · 15/07/2022 18:55

That’s good!

poetryandwine · 15/07/2022 19:00

OP,

Forgive the question - do you know if there was a reason his young daughter was moved out of the family home, leaving it to a single man who spends a lot of time travelling? That is very unusual. Don’t answer if it is too personal.

Gottoomuchgoingon · 15/07/2022 19:03

I might be going against the grain here but it sounds like you really like him and I'd be less quick to throw that away.
Now his ex knows where she stands just ask him what his intentions are regarding divorce and go from there.

It's easy for strangers on here to decide he's lying etc etc but you know him best and you should do what you need to to be happy

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 19:19

He sent me a long message saying he's a wreck and his wife is thinking things through and considering her options and he's under so much pressure at work.. It was full of excuses but he essentially said he needed time alone to sort himself out so I sent him a message back saying if he truly loved me his actions would've spoken and he would not have hesitated to tell her about me..
I've said I need to block him to protect myself but he knows where I live, if he's taking steps to divorce her and he's serious then to write to me and I'll hear it out. That's all I've said. Now I've blocked him.

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CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 19:19

poetryandwine · 15/07/2022 19:00

OP,

Forgive the question - do you know if there was a reason his young daughter was moved out of the family home, leaving it to a single man who spends a lot of time travelling? That is very unusual. Don’t answer if it is too personal.

It's fairly outing if I give all the details but in essence he bought and paid for the family home.

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CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 19:20

His wife and daughter live in another property which he owns.

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BadNomad · 15/07/2022 19:23

Is that the reason they haven't divorced yet? Because he doesn't want his ex to get half of the house he bought and paid for?

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 19:27

BadNomad · 15/07/2022 19:23

Is that the reason they haven't divorced yet? Because he doesn't want his ex to get half of the house he bought and paid for?

Essentially yes, he's financially supporting her now as she isn't currently working.. I think it's more for financial reasons than anything else..

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Afrodizzyak · 15/07/2022 19:32

Let him go and find someone who is free and single. There are plenty of men in the world without complications. You will just end up an older unhappy woman being the bit on the side.

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 19:34

Just going to take some time, it was so happy being together now its all finished.

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poetryandwine · 15/07/2022 19:41

Hi, again OP -

You’ve just given us important information. I think you were very right to take this definitive step, but your (former?) boyfriend or ex seems to have a more substantial financial situation than one envisages unless that information is included. You sound lovely and I can appreciate that one doesn’t want to include that type of thing if it seems irrelevant. Only, maybe it isn’t. Maybe his wife remains interested in being supported and maybe he stands to lose a fair amount of money in a divorce?

It is no excuse but maybe it is a bit easier to get one’s head around than a lot of what had been conjectured here. Take care

BadNomad · 15/07/2022 19:57

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 19:27

Essentially yes, he's financially supporting her now as she isn't currently working.. I think it's more for financial reasons than anything else..

That will be his real reason for not telling her no then. If she kicks off and pushes for divorce, she'll have a claim on both those house and the rest. He wants to avoid that. Thinking about going back to her was never about seeing the child more. It was to keep her sweet so he won't have to give her half of what he thinks is his.

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 20:08

I know.. I just thought he was honest about the actual seperation, I believe that they lived apart as he was always available to meet with me and talk to me but I guess emotionally he wasn't.

I guess I've left the door as ajar to say if he does anything about divorcing his wife then to look me up so I'll just leave it there but not hold out hope and move forward with my life.

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Speedweed · 15/07/2022 20:09

'He made me feel like a dirty secret.'

You know why that was, don't you OP - because that's what you are. You've said it yourself.

Tell him you don't think it's fair to string him along when you're only interested in single men so you're going back on online dating, but he's most welcome to get in contact with you when he's got his decree absolute. Then block him.

And don't let him weasel his way back in with a story about how he's only reactivated his tinder profile because he's looking for you when you inevitably see him there looking for his next play...

AMindNeedsBooks · 15/07/2022 20:16

The thing is, the longer he is still married to her the more assets she'll be entitled to when they do eventually divorce, including his pension.