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Mind. Blown.

415 replies

TotallyUninspired · 11/07/2022 17:04

Some of you may remember my previous thread. Back in March I found out that my husband was having an affair with a much younger (also married) woman. He was very cruel to me in the months leading up to me finding out and brutal after I found out - saying she offered things that I didn't, that I was boring, that it was my fault because blah blah blah. It felt like if he could have blamed me for the Challenger explosion and the Exxon Valdez oil spill he would have.

Off he went, leaving the children and I broken-hearted. I gave up trying to reason with him very quickly and have maintained as little contact as possible with him ever since, with him constantly pushing for friendly chats and cups of tea that I absolutely do not want to have. We've sorted out a childcare arrangement but the financial stuff is unresolved as yet.

Today I got home from dropping the kids off to find him outside. He wants to come back. He's never stopped loving me, apparently, he was just having some kind of mental health crisis and I am the only person he can truly be himself with. He says that he fully takes responsibility for the affair and for destroying our marriage, that he will never forgive himself and his life isn't worth living now. He doesn't want OW, he says - they only lasted for about 2 weeks after he left and he could then see she was completely unsuited to him. He admits he rewrote history and that we had a good marriage and says it was his own insecurity that led him to this. He is having counselling to try and address his issues and asked if there was any way I would give him another chance.

I am so fucking bewildered. I don't know what on earth to do. It felt like validation to have him admit all those things but it could never be the same relationship again. Not to mention the fact that my family all absolutely despise him now (and rightly so). I do still love him but I don't know if I can get past the lack of love and respect he showed me and, above all, there is the fear that it could happen again.

I've agreed to go to a joint counselling session with him, and that's all I've agreed to. I don't know if our relationship is in any way salvageable but, at the very least, if it leads to a more amicable parting of the ways that would be positive.

OP posts:
alphons · 11/07/2022 17:40

I do still love him but I don't know if I can get past the lack of love and respect he showed me

What do you mean by “I do still love him”? I mean, what do you really mean? Try to think about that rationally, and ask yourself the questions you’re avoiding.

He’s treated you appallingly. He has done this to you. It didn’t just happen. He chose to do it - to you. Is that what you’re worth? Does he deserve to be loved by you, after that?

WomensLandArmy · 11/07/2022 17:40

Fuck that shit, I wouldn't be anybody's second choice. If he can treat you that way once he can do it again given the right circumstances.

blackgreywhite · 11/07/2022 17:41

If someone I was married to, had given birth to their children and was raising them in a loving family had an affair because I was 'boring' then came crawling back because they got dumped I would have no words at the audacity.

Absolutely no chance I'd want them back after that, I couldn't, my respect and love for myself would come first.

Pinkbonbon · 11/07/2022 17:42

Op, you gotta love YOU the most. People who treat you like shit on their shoes don't get second chances because they aren't good enough. Believe that op. Love yourself. Choose you.

mumpower3 · 11/07/2022 17:42

So he has now realised the grass is not greener on the other side and also totally destroyed the "family" he once had!

Tough!!! He made his bed , now he can lay in it!
He is taking you for a complete fool!
Have some self respect and move on.
He will be sorry when he sees you are perfectly happy without his sorry arse!

Inthesameboatatmo · 11/07/2022 17:43

Please stay level headed op. You've done so well. He's found out the grass isn't greener and thinks you are a mug so will take him back. Please don't.

REignbow · 11/07/2022 17:48

He wants his comfortable life back. He does not want YOU back.

As soon as his head is turned again, he’ll be off and say and do exactly as he has done now.

I had a friend who took back her exDP after he left her two times (wasn’t an affair) and he has now just done it again. Please have some self respect. Do not go to joint counselling but go to counselling yourself.

StampOnTheGround · 11/07/2022 17:49

Stay strong, he's likely come crawling back because she has dumped him. You deserve better!

MarshaMelrose · 11/07/2022 17:49

At this stage I think your focus should be on sorting out an amicable situation in co parenting the children. Or at least see if it's possible. And that can probably best sorted out through joint counselling. Whether anything could develop is something for the future. You really have to process the past events before you start thinking how a future relation would or could work, never mind whether it you should even try to make it work. Take it one step at a time and put you and your needs at the heart of the process and not the needs of any others.

MushMonster · 11/07/2022 17:50

Do not believe a word he says OP!
He said the opposite not so long ago, when he thought he was running into cloud 9.
You have seen the real him. Nobody can love that.
If he had an affair and treated you somehow fairly in the split... but after all the spite, no no....
I have been the party to blame in my first marriage, and never ever again. Just that is enough.
Tell him that you are bored of him. And all is his fault for being boring and pathetic! He is quite pathetic!
Do not let him ruin your life more than once OP. Run for the hills.

Fairislefandango · 11/07/2022 17:50

Sorry OP, but you would be crazy to fall for this bullshit, and even crazier to take him back. The Relationships board is littered with examples of these 'reformed' men. He is taking you for a mug.

ReneBumsWombats · 11/07/2022 17:50

I couldn't come back from that and I wouldn't trust him.

JimmyShoo · 11/07/2022 17:52

I would have laughed in his face when he said he wanted you back. I wouldn’t have counselling either, you’re worth more.

2022NewTimes · 11/07/2022 17:53

@TotallyUninspired ... He blamed you for his affair. ... He had absolutely NO empathy for the hurt he was causing you at the time . Do not give him the power to hurt you again.... If he thinks he can get away with it....he will probably do it again

YanTanTetheraPetheraPimp · 11/07/2022 17:53

Not bloody likely 🤬
He must think you’re stupid (or desperate).

StarDolphins · 11/07/2022 17:53

‘I still love him’ - you love the person he was before he was horrible to you, he has now changed the dynamic of the relationship by breaking your trust & choosing to have an affair. Breaks can’t be repaired in my opinion. You deserve so much better. The grass isn’t greener & now it’s tough titty.

Namerchangerextraordinaire · 11/07/2022 17:54

He wants someone to wash his pants, cook his dinner & have sex with him until he finds someone else.

When he thought he had another sure thing he told you how he really feels.

He'll do it again next time he gets a chance & tell you he really only came back for the children but you are still you so it's all your fault etc...

Save time, don't have him back in the first place.

Northernblueberry · 11/07/2022 17:54

Where is he staying now op?

TeaWithFlorence · 11/07/2022 17:55

He's done it once he will do it again. If the OW hadn't kicked him out he would still be there.

Devotedcatslave · 11/07/2022 17:58

He is insulting you. Why are you not furious with him? He dumped you when someone better came along, left you without a thought for how it would affect you and his DC, now it hasn't worked out and he thinks he can just come back and pick up where he left off? Screw that! You can do way better than him!

ShandaLear · 11/07/2022 17:58

He’s having to wash his own socks and pants now, and cook his own dinners, and live in a home that’s nowhere near as nice as the one he left. He’ll do it again if he gets something he thinks is a better offer.

newbiename · 11/07/2022 17:58

Absolutely not.

Rogue1001MNer · 11/07/2022 17:59

I remember your last thread.

It must be great he's now saying this.

But please be very, very careful

greatblueheron · 11/07/2022 17:59

I'd have laughed at him.

He's shown you who he is and he lied lied lied to you about everything to try to make you believe his bad behaviour was your fault. He was vile, a cheating vile husband. Absolutely vile to you in the run up, during and post breakup

He just misses having someone in his bed and doing his grunt work for him. He is completely untrustworthy.

I wouldn't go to counselling with him, but if you do, make it clear you're not having him back and the counsellor needs to help him cope with that decision as you won't be the one catering to his MH over your sane decision to not have him back.

Good luck.

AfterSchoolWorry · 11/07/2022 18:00

She's kicked him out. Script.