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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Support thread: for those contemplating/going through a break up

278 replies

paperchain · 16/01/2008 15:43

Me. I need all the support I can get if I am to hold it togehter through this.

Others join in?

OP posts:
bubblagirl · 18/01/2008 18:54

imaginary something lol bless him

well dp and i have remained civil last few days even manged a cuddle last night

hate it when that happens though sets you off on another whirlwind of confusion

if things get heated and nasty again then it'll be it no more trying only so much before holding hands up and saying ok ok i now know i have tried my goddam hardest

hope everyone else is feeling ok and hope you all have a good weekend or at least try to

you always have good ol mn

paperchain · 18/01/2008 20:16

lots of posts

I am feeling very bad. Dangerously low and very scared. I need some comfort right now and I have no way of getting it

OP posts:
mummyofaprincess · 18/01/2008 20:24

bubblagirl this line means alot to me right now and is making me see the future in a better light as i`m feeling so low.

"its not love keeping you wanting that person its the fear of change and being alone"

Xp is all i`ve ever know as i met him when i was 14, i was with him for 7 years.

I do have a thread on here about my xp leaving me DD 3 and my bump in november of last year.

bubblagirl · 19/01/2008 10:46

i'm good at saying the words not so great at really taking my own advise but if it makes others feel brighter then there help will help me if that makes sence

i am sorry to hear that you are feeling really low mummyofaprincess its not easy

it becomes scary at the thought of starting again but would you rather be with hima nd be unhappy or be unhappy but know it'll all change for the better and it will

i know right now it probably dont feel like it but one day something good will happen and you'll wake up and feel the world is a brighter place but every day is a step closer

xx

MuthaHubbard · 19/01/2008 11:59

bubbla - i am exactly the same, am good at dishing out advice but not taking my own!!!

Am sorry you are both feeling so low moap and paperchain. There are times when we will all feel like this I think.

Am feeling a little bit like that myself at the mo as I know I have a huge mountain to climb but have only taken the first few steps. I know all the paperwork that I need to sort and decisions that will have to be made. I know I have to tell the kids that me and their dad are just friends now and no longer a couple. That one day we will be divorced and he won't live with us all the time. That part is like Mount Everest.

But, I know that once I've climbed that mountain I will be happy as I slide down the other side.

Ultimately, change is scary, that's why they say 'better the devil you know'.

But one day (i hope) you will be proud of how you've done everything by yourself and how you've raised fab dc without them.

Twoddle · 19/01/2008 13:48

Count me in, too.

Twoddle

x

queenrollo · 19/01/2008 16:51

Beginnings are scary, Endings are usually sad, but it's what's in the middle that counts the most. Remember that when you are at the beginning.

right now some of you are in a precarious place between the end of one thing and the beginning of another.
Something happened in my life a few weeks ago that came completely out of the blue. I met a wonderful man. So my life is quite turbulent emotionally at the moment. Sad that so many things changed in ways i thought they never would, and optimisim and happiness at the thought of a happy future. I'm taking things very slowly with this new man (he lives 5 hours away so that helps!).......but i thought when i left my ex that i was destined for a life on my own.
so for all of you feeling lonely and scared, there is happiness and laughter waiting for each and every one. maybe not as quickly as i found it (and i'm aware it might not last, so i'm being very careful about how much i invest in this blossoming relationship)......but eventually you will find happiness in whatever form you need and want it.

i'm having a good day today, and sad to read that some of you are feeling quite low......but i was there once and i can tell you it DOES get better.

hugs for everyone

moosh · 20/01/2008 13:00

I've done it but not sure how he is taking it.
He says he really loves me and he wants to change I've told him I'm not asking him to change, I'm just tired of trying to make it work when I have no fight left in me.

He has asked me to think about it which I will do but I want it to end more than him but I didn't think it would make me feel so guilty. It would have been better to have a blazing row and ended it in the middle of a slanging match.

God this is a nightmare situation!!!

queenrollo · 20/01/2008 13:43

moosh....it wouldn't have been better to end it in a blazing row. in my experience it just leads the other person to believe that you said those things out of anger rather than really meaning them.

i feel incredibly guilty about being the one to make the break, even though my ex agreed that things were never going to work between us.

if you are sure (and i was, there was no doubt in my mind that i couldn't carry on with him) then stick with your instinct. it will be hard, especially if he doesn't want to break up, but it would be pointless agreeing to stay if you're just going to feel the same way in a few months time.

hugs to everyone today

xx

MuthaHubbard · 20/01/2008 15:00

queenrollo speaks lots of sense!!

I feel guilty too but know deep down it is the right decision.

Don't feel bad because it's seems like you are the one with the problem, it's a problem you both have but you are the one with the guts to change it.

I do feel a little less guilty now as he seems to be getting his head around the fact that this is definitely going to happen and can see that yes, we have been unhappy for longer than we'd both been prepared to admit.

We have even been getting on a little better as the 'relationship' element has been removed and we are just friends now iyswim.

queenrollo · 23/01/2008 11:57

How's everyone doing?

i dropped ds off at his daddy's on Monday, stayed for a cup of tea and we are getting on very well at the moment. We said when we split that we had become more like best friends than lovers and he's right. I just hope we can stay like this.....

TLV · 28/01/2008 12:18

Now i'm at the opposite end here, my dh left me and has been insistent that he doesn't want to come back (we have a 2.5yr old dd) we still slept together and he has admitted giving me false hope. And he says deep down he feels its the right decision to have made the break. Why does it hurt so much and its not just me i'm hurting for its my dd as she has seen me in such a state. I almost walked out yesterday leaving my dd with family because I felt I couldn't cope anymore. Dh thinks i'm a complete nutter and my mum physically laid into me so i've lost more than my dh but family members too. Do i just admit defeat and that my marriage is over. I really don't want to raise dd alone or even think that dh more than likely meet someone else and have another family.

idontcarewhoreadsthis · 28/01/2008 13:01

Watching with interest but can't post on here yet.
Feel for you all.
x

Irisheyes78 · 28/01/2008 13:26

TLV I have read your thread an my heart breaks for you. I was once in a similar situation and thought the physical pain of it would kill me. You need to let your husband go so that he can decide what he wants. I never thought my dh would sort himself out but thank God he did. Thinking of you and sending you cyber hugs.... lots of em x x

TLV · 28/01/2008 13:32

Irisheyes, what happened with you?

Baffy · 28/01/2008 13:49

Signing in too.

Can't post too much about my own break up at the moment, finding it a bit too painful to keep going over it.

(In short, been together with dh for 14 years, 2 year old ds, he sold our home, planning to buy a new one, but then walked out on us last Christmas saying he couldn't go through with the purchase and left us at my mums.
Turns out he was having an affair with a 19 year old and left because she wanted him to. He has had a string of pointless relationships since then. Seems to want to be with anyone except me and ds. But won't sign the divorce papers because he 'doesn't know what he wants'
Not sure I could trust him ever again. But can't seem to let go either. It kills me having to share my beautiful baby. I didn't have a child to be a part time mum I can't really believe he's taken my life, hopes and dreams away from me in such a heartless way.)

Here to support/help if I can. It's been over 12 months since we first split. Not sure it's getting any easier though.

Irisheyes78 · 28/01/2008 13:51

In short, Friends Reunited!! More like old flames reignited. We were not married at the time. She got in touch via his siter, the bitch and passed to her her mobile number. He then finished it with me but I did some digging and found out about this other girl. I already knew of her as she had sent two emails to him and I had deleted them before he got the chance to read them. Anyway after a couple of months of sleeping with us both I decided enough was enough and if he couldn't make up his mind then I could at least make up mine and I walked. It broke my heart to do it as I thought if he really wanted to be with me then he would be so as far as I was concerned I was cutting all ties with him and would never see him again. I was happy to let him treat me like dirt you see just to be with him. After a few months he came back to me. It wasn't easy at first but we knew we wanted to be together and he had finally got her out of is hair. Your hub just needs to see what he is losing. If it doesn't work out for you at least you can say you tried your best. But please don't let him give you false hope. I am married nearly five yrs now and am pregnant on our third child. We have a boy and girl 18 months and 8 months. You can have a happy ending too but it may not be with your husband x x

looneymum · 30/01/2008 19:54

TLV - I have similar tale to you. My DH left on 29 Dec. We have two DDs 3 and 5. He had been working away mostly, home at weekends and I think he had a better offer and decided he liked being away more than being at home. We would have been married 8 years next month. It all kicked off about 6 weeks before xmas and then that was it, he said the marriage was broken and he left. It is such hard work dealing with little ones, heartache, kids' back to back illnesses, little to no sleep.... now starting to talk settlement (or should I say e-mail). How can someone leave their beautiful girls without even trying at Relate or something. I must be better off without this type of bloke. I hope I find a true prince (as DD1 would say) as I need a good laugh and to get back my self esteem. Big hugs to all.

jolly4 · 31/01/2008 09:36

just reading all these posts i need to rant but will do later feel for every one , dont know what too sayxx

hellsbells76 · 31/01/2008 12:07

I met (not so D)P nearly 3 years ago when I was a single mum to my now 5 year old DS. We were so intense about each other, I thought I'd found 'the one' and he said he felt the same. I stupidly got pregnant within 3 months of meeting and we decided to move in together. Then the cracks started appearing - he would go out and get absolutely shitfaced and come home and yell at me. I threatened to leave then and he broke down and promised he would change.

Since then we've had our ups and downs (and a beautiful 20 month old daughter) but his behaviour has got steadily worse over the last year. He has a serious drink problem and struggles to go a day without a beer. He's either hungover or suffering withdrawal and has an incredibly short fuse. He snaps at me constantly and on one occasion shook me hard, on another picked up a dining chair and threatened me with it. I felt it was only a matter of time before he hit me. He suffers badly from depression but has always refused to seek help. He also contributes virtually nothing to the house (runs his own business and spends any money he earns on drink, maybe chucking £100 or so my way every now and again) - a year ago I had to get a full time job just to keep a roof over our heads.

On Monday we had another row and when he threatened to leave, instead of begging him to stay as I have in the past, I just told him to go. He went out for a few hours, and came back sheepishly, promised he would change and that he wanted to keep our family together. I said he would have to make a doctor's appointment to deal with the depression, anger and drink issues, and that he would have to make an effort to be at least civil to me.

Well, it's now Thursday and that hasn't happened. This morning he snapped at me three times before we left the house. I take DD to nursery and he takes DS to school. He stormed out with DS and then I heard this almighty yelling and f'ing and blinding from across the street. DS had committed the cardinal sin of forgetting his lunchbox. On my way to nursery/work all I could see in my head was his little face looking absolutely terrified and that was the final straw - I can take a certain amount of abuse myself but I will not allow my son to suffer like that.

So I've phoned him and told him I want him out by the weekend. He was eerily calm about it, and only said two things: 'when we tell the story of what happened, our versions will be so different' (like I give a shit - he can call me twenty types of bitch if it makes him feel better, my friends know what really went on) and 'don't accuse me of abuse, you don't know what that word means'...which kind of shows how far his self-delusion has gone.

Not sure why I'm posting all this really - guess I need to be reassured I'm doing the right thing. I'm not worried about how we'll cope practically - the house is in my name, and in many ways I'll be better off financially without him (more tax credits, council tax discount, not constantly subbing him £50 to go down the pub)...more worried about how to explain to DS and what to say to DD when she's old enough to understand.

Tonight we're talking about practicalities and I need to be strong enough not to give him yet another chance after he's blown all the others. I have a great support network and have friends lined up to come round and keep me company over the next week or so. In some ways I'm relieved that I've finally made the decision - but I'm also in mourning for the man I loved, and have to keep telling myself that that wasn't the real him, that man never really existed.

Anyway, if you've read this far, thanks...feels better just to get it all out...

Paddlechick666 · 31/01/2008 13:48

hellsbells, feel so that you and your DC have had to deal with this.

really hope that tonight's discussion goes the way you want it to.

if you really want him gone and you're worried that you will waiver then just keep that picture of ds's face in mind as you discuss it.

good luck adn keep posting etc as there's heaps of people here who can offer support.

i saw divorce sol on monday, will probably instruct them to start proceedings tomorrow.

i feel like a shit parent at the mo. am in such a bad mood constantly and i know it's because i resent H never ever doing anything and me having to work full time, parent full time etc.

need to find a way to let it go and be less grumpy for poor dd.

moosh · 01/02/2008 08:26

We told the children yesterday. Ds aged 4 was ok but ds aged 8 broke down. It was heart breaking. At the moment I think I am the "bad" one as I broke with him and I feel my eldest boy feels that at the moment.
But I know it will be better in the long run.

Ex hates me at the moment but my priority is the children.

I'll keep you all posted hope everyone else is doing ok in their own circumstances.

Baffy · 01/02/2008 11:03

hellsbells I hope you're ok what an awful situation. it really does sound like you'll be so much better off without him. stay strong

moosh, sounds like you're doing the right thing, it will be better in the long run keep remembering that

pc I hope you're ok? xx

hellsbells76 · 01/02/2008 12:51

Thanks for your support everyone, really does help.

Well last night went OK - he was very subdued and really trying hard to be accommodating. Think he's realised how much he's screwed up and what he's lost. I was really upset when he left and cried myself to sleep, but today woke up feeling like a new person I'm sure there will be ups and downs but right now I feel like a huge weight has gone...all the worrying about what to do, whether to give him yet another chance, how we'd cope...all that's gone now and I know deep down that we've done the right thing and we just have to get on with it now.

I've explained to DS as much as I can and he's been brilliant - I suppose because his dad doesn't live with us either it's sort of 'normal' to him in a way. He said he was 'a bit scared' when he got yelled at yesterday but I made sure he understood it wasn't anything he'd done and that it won't happen to him again.

paddlechick - is there any way you can get a bit of time to yourself? anyone who can babysit for an hour or so so you can have a nap/go for a swim/whatever? it's so hard to keep positive when you feel like everything is on your shoulders Have you instructed the solicitor now?

moosh-so sorry your DS took it so badly, it's so hard for children to understand but he'll see a happier mummy soon and eventually he'll realise you've done the right thing. 8 is quite a sensitive age anyway isn't it?

baffy - thank you everyone keeps telling me I've done the right thing and it makes a big difference to know that however hard it is, I couldn't have done anything else in the end...

jenk1 · 01/02/2008 16:19

oh im glad ive found this thread, well not glad IYKNIM.

me and xdh split at the end of oct last year, we have 2 children a DS 11 (not biologically xdh,s) who also has AS and a dd 3.8 who is Ds,s child and who has CP and suspected ASD as well.

xdh was treating ds pretty bad and was being nasty and agressive to me so we split.

About 3.5 weeks ago i wanted to make another go of our marriage as i thought xdh had changed and he appeared to have.

but sadly no.

we went away on holiday 2 weeks ago and he came out for the 2nd week, he got ratfaced a lot, all my spends were took up paying a doctor to sort his very big hangover out (he nearly ended up in hospital) he brought no money, criticised ds in front of my family and slagged me and ds off to my sisters boyfriend who he has only known for 5 mins.

the kids were wingeing and crying througout the 2nd week and when my sister commented on it that she could see a big change in them since he came out, that was when i woke up.

now i am struggling to get him to leave, he says he has no money and nowhere to go.
i am skint cos i had to borrow money off my family to pay HIS medical bill so cant lend him any.

the atmosphere is awful, i just want him to go and feel so stupid.
DS will go ballistic when he leaves but i know its for the best.

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