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Lack of care from adult daughter

247 replies

user1492387367 · 01/07/2022 12:41

I had a wisdom tooth out recently & as I am an anxious person was very stressed. It’s been two days since the extraction & no phone call to see if I’m feeling ok from my adult daughter. I am a pensioner and recently had breast cancer & have other health issues. Do you think this is an ok way to treat your mum .

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WhiskerPatrol · 01/07/2022 17:23

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riesenrad · 01/07/2022 17:23

In fact spend every penny of your money you can. Your daughter will then reap what she sows after your time when she no doubt will be first in the queue rubbing her hands together and hoping for a nice big bequest

Well people should do that anyway, rather than bleating about IHT, but that's not the point of this thread.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 01/07/2022 17:25

You sounds very resentful.

Do you even like your daughter?

Why should she be at your back and call?

Nanananananana99 · 01/07/2022 17:27

Seaweed42 · 01/07/2022 14:17

What age are you? There's a big difference between being 67 or being 82 for example. Have you a husband or are you a widow or separated?
Is your DD the only person who provides you with support?

Do you have a husband or other children?

Id be interested to know wether if you had son’s you would be expecting the same or if you would be telling everyone how busy and important ‘Tom’ is etc

My mum did a lot of caring for her parents (which she was happy to do as it was in her nature) which never got mentioned but her brother’s weren’t even expected to be in the same country etc

Nanananananana99 · 01/07/2022 17:29

@WhiskerPatrol no need for the misogyny ta!

WhiskerPatrol · 01/07/2022 17:34

Not sure what you mean @Nanananananana99 ? Many of the spiteful bitches on the thread may well be male, I have no way of knowing... but feel free to substitute with a less gendered insult if you prefer. How about "arsehole"? Or how about you focus on the issue here rather than policing others' language? I don't think I've broken any posting rules...

drawacircleroundit · 01/07/2022 17:34

You need to really reign in your expectations. You had some teeth out.
Be positive, happy, vibrant, find humour in life, and you might find she phones.

DatingDinosaur · 01/07/2022 17:39

I wouldn’t phone my mum to ask about a tooth extraction. I’d end up on the phone for an hour!

Thinking about it, the dynamic between me and my mum is that the “patient” usually texts a quick message saying it all went okay and back home resting now, etc. So in your situation, it would be my mum who texted first and I’d reply.

Jizt · 01/07/2022 17:57

Are you emotionally kind to her? Are either of you neurodiverse?

Nanny0gg · 01/07/2022 17:58

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 01/07/2022 17:25

You sounds very resentful.

Do you even like your daughter?

Why should she be at your back and call?

It's hardly 'beck and bloody call'!!

I think what this thread says to me (and I don't think it's indicative of real life) is that there is an entitlement on this thread that children owe their parents absolutely nothing. They didn't ask to be born, it was all to suit the parent and the parent still owes the DC contact and help and childcare and should expect precisely nothing back, even if it's just a text to see if they're ok.

Baggyeye · 01/07/2022 18:04

@user1492387367 Do you think this is an ok way to treat your mum

On basis of what you have written - Yes.

Jealousofchiliheeler · 01/07/2022 18:05

OP, is it not possible she just forgot? Easy enough to do when you've got small children, maybe she's having a rest at home after a super busy time at work? Or maybe she didn't want to make a massive deal out of it because she didn't want to make your anxiety worse?
I feel like there's lots of potential reasons, the way you've immediately painted her as uncaring is rather suggestive of how you interact with her in person.
Also, what's stopping you from calling her?

GarethKeenan · 01/07/2022 18:15

Are you married? Do you have other kids?

AuntMargo · 01/07/2022 18:18

No its not okay in my eyes, unless of course there is something your not telling us? If there is not any bitterness between the 2 of you, then she clearly doesn't give a damn. Im sorry for you if that is the case

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 01/07/2022 18:38

mumda · 01/07/2022 13:32

If your phone accepts incoming calls, it'll probably make an outgoing one too.

This is really important: how often do you call her? My parents never ring me. And I mean never. And that it is always on me to call them becomes very wearing.

WhiteHydrangeas · 01/07/2022 18:59

MN is such a weird place. You get all these threads where posters claim to be crying over a complete stranger’s story and are falling over themselves to offer financial help, free stuff and other kinds of support (even though many of those threads absolutely scream fake or scam). But when it comes to doing anything at all for their own mother or - OMG, the horror - their MIL, it’s a very different story. For some reason, threads about elderly parents / PILs asking for even just very basic support or semi-regular phone calls often attract a pretty unpleasant crowd. Lots of people who seem to detest their mothers (who were of course all narcissists) and would apparently prefer to never see or hear from them again. It’s quite depressing, really.

OP, I’m really sorry you’re feeling rough and lonely. During the last 1.5 years, my own mum went through six months of chemo (also breast cancer) and a (fairly complicated) wisdom tooth extraction, so your story feels close to home.

During the cancer treatment, I drove mum to all her chemo sessions (weekly during the last three months), accompanied her to most doctor's appointments (I’m not in the UK - we were able to do this despite Covid), researched all her treatments and how to ease side-effects, prepared lots of nice meals and treats, did a fair amount of gardening, cleaning, dog-walking and life admin, made sure she always had fresh flowers and nice movies to watch and called her at least once a day. Took care of my step-dad when mum had her OP, went to see her in hospital every day, picked her up from the dental surgeon when she had her wisdon teeth out. We’re very close and I was utterly devastated when mum got her diagnosis. Not doing everything I could to support her seemed unthinkable to me, so I really feel for you.

Mum says several of her friends commented that their own children had been much less supportive in similar situations and how lucky she was. One of these friends does a ridiculous amount of childcare to support her daughter’s career, involving a 3 hour round trip several times a week. From what I can tell she is genuinely lovely, very warm and incredibly supportive of both her children, but apparently neither of them particularly cared when she went through years of extremely grueling cancer treatment. I’m not convinced the fault always lies with the parent or that there must be some sort of huge backstory. Some people just seem to lack empathy somewhat and are quite selfish by nature. It also seems to be cultural shift in Western societies. The way we treat our sick and elderly as a society is shameful and at a family level, in many cases things don't look much better either.

Only you know if there’s more to the story with your daughter, but if you’re generally close, I completely understand why you feel unloved and disappointed. If your daughter’s recent lack of care is out of character for her, do pick up the phone, find out if there’s anything difficult going on in her life, try to make some nice plans together and have a proper talk at some point. I hope things improve for you, you’ve been through a pretty tough time and anyone would feel a bit fragile after that.

maddiemookins16mum · 01/07/2022 19:03

I’d never treat my mum like this.

ttacticall · 01/07/2022 20:15

Nanny0gg · 01/07/2022 17:58

It's hardly 'beck and bloody call'!!

I think what this thread says to me (and I don't think it's indicative of real life) is that there is an entitlement on this thread that children owe their parents absolutely nothing. They didn't ask to be born, it was all to suit the parent and the parent still owes the DC contact and help and childcare and should expect precisely nothing back, even if it's just a text to see if they're ok.

I see that too Nanny0gg.

WisherWood · 01/07/2022 20:16

Maybe OP your babysitting days are done as a result of this lack of care back to you

But the daughter took her mother to all her chemo sessions. This isn't entirely one sided. The OP currently feels hard done by but it's very difficult to tell from the information here what might be going on. It just seems to me as if a sensible conversation is in order, rather than tit for tat retaliation.

Dishwashersaurous · 01/07/2022 20:30

Thinking about this, actually surely the onus is on the person having the procedure on their tooth to let the other person know that they are OK.

I'd not phone someone who had just had a tooth out because I'd assume that they wouldn't be able to talk properly.

I'd wait for my mum, friend, sibling to call me and let me know how it went when they felt up to calling.

SoulSilveringFloatyLilac · 01/07/2022 20:34

A wisdom tooth extraction, can be a significant dental operation

you have done lots for her, and have my sympathy.

KittyKittyKat · 01/07/2022 20:37

It is just a tooth extraction. I don’t think I’d be messaging or fussing around someone after a dental procedure.

My MIL thinks she does “everything she can to support us”. The truth is she does fuck all and never has. She’s also really hard work to be around and complains endlessly. We don’t engage with her much.

It does sound like you have been more hands on with your daughter. In any case, tell her you’re upset not to hear from her. She may have been busy or not have thought twice about your tooth.

SoulSilveringFloatyLilac · 01/07/2022 20:40

You sound like a hardworking mum, who isn’t feeling too well, and someone who deserves a little bit of attention. 💐💐💐
Ignore the strange people on Mumsnet, although I see there are a few normal people, interspersed, offering their sympathy.
When you feel better, get a little treat for yourself xx

ThisisMax · 01/07/2022 21:19

WhiteHydrangeas · 01/07/2022 18:59

MN is such a weird place. You get all these threads where posters claim to be crying over a complete stranger’s story and are falling over themselves to offer financial help, free stuff and other kinds of support (even though many of those threads absolutely scream fake or scam). But when it comes to doing anything at all for their own mother or - OMG, the horror - their MIL, it’s a very different story. For some reason, threads about elderly parents / PILs asking for even just very basic support or semi-regular phone calls often attract a pretty unpleasant crowd. Lots of people who seem to detest their mothers (who were of course all narcissists) and would apparently prefer to never see or hear from them again. It’s quite depressing, really.

OP, I’m really sorry you’re feeling rough and lonely. During the last 1.5 years, my own mum went through six months of chemo (also breast cancer) and a (fairly complicated) wisdom tooth extraction, so your story feels close to home.

During the cancer treatment, I drove mum to all her chemo sessions (weekly during the last three months), accompanied her to most doctor's appointments (I’m not in the UK - we were able to do this despite Covid), researched all her treatments and how to ease side-effects, prepared lots of nice meals and treats, did a fair amount of gardening, cleaning, dog-walking and life admin, made sure she always had fresh flowers and nice movies to watch and called her at least once a day. Took care of my step-dad when mum had her OP, went to see her in hospital every day, picked her up from the dental surgeon when she had her wisdon teeth out. We’re very close and I was utterly devastated when mum got her diagnosis. Not doing everything I could to support her seemed unthinkable to me, so I really feel for you.

Mum says several of her friends commented that their own children had been much less supportive in similar situations and how lucky she was. One of these friends does a ridiculous amount of childcare to support her daughter’s career, involving a 3 hour round trip several times a week. From what I can tell she is genuinely lovely, very warm and incredibly supportive of both her children, but apparently neither of them particularly cared when she went through years of extremely grueling cancer treatment. I’m not convinced the fault always lies with the parent or that there must be some sort of huge backstory. Some people just seem to lack empathy somewhat and are quite selfish by nature. It also seems to be cultural shift in Western societies. The way we treat our sick and elderly as a society is shameful and at a family level, in many cases things don't look much better either.

Only you know if there’s more to the story with your daughter, but if you’re generally close, I completely understand why you feel unloved and disappointed. If your daughter’s recent lack of care is out of character for her, do pick up the phone, find out if there’s anything difficult going on in her life, try to make some nice plans together and have a proper talk at some point. I hope things improve for you, you’ve been through a pretty tough time and anyone would feel a bit fragile after that.

👆
Enmeshed but oblivious

Blueberry111 · 01/07/2022 21:35

WhiteHydrangeas · 01/07/2022 18:59

MN is such a weird place. You get all these threads where posters claim to be crying over a complete stranger’s story and are falling over themselves to offer financial help, free stuff and other kinds of support (even though many of those threads absolutely scream fake or scam). But when it comes to doing anything at all for their own mother or - OMG, the horror - their MIL, it’s a very different story. For some reason, threads about elderly parents / PILs asking for even just very basic support or semi-regular phone calls often attract a pretty unpleasant crowd. Lots of people who seem to detest their mothers (who were of course all narcissists) and would apparently prefer to never see or hear from them again. It’s quite depressing, really.

OP, I’m really sorry you’re feeling rough and lonely. During the last 1.5 years, my own mum went through six months of chemo (also breast cancer) and a (fairly complicated) wisdom tooth extraction, so your story feels close to home.

During the cancer treatment, I drove mum to all her chemo sessions (weekly during the last three months), accompanied her to most doctor's appointments (I’m not in the UK - we were able to do this despite Covid), researched all her treatments and how to ease side-effects, prepared lots of nice meals and treats, did a fair amount of gardening, cleaning, dog-walking and life admin, made sure she always had fresh flowers and nice movies to watch and called her at least once a day. Took care of my step-dad when mum had her OP, went to see her in hospital every day, picked her up from the dental surgeon when she had her wisdon teeth out. We’re very close and I was utterly devastated when mum got her diagnosis. Not doing everything I could to support her seemed unthinkable to me, so I really feel for you.

Mum says several of her friends commented that their own children had been much less supportive in similar situations and how lucky she was. One of these friends does a ridiculous amount of childcare to support her daughter’s career, involving a 3 hour round trip several times a week. From what I can tell she is genuinely lovely, very warm and incredibly supportive of both her children, but apparently neither of them particularly cared when she went through years of extremely grueling cancer treatment. I’m not convinced the fault always lies with the parent or that there must be some sort of huge backstory. Some people just seem to lack empathy somewhat and are quite selfish by nature. It also seems to be cultural shift in Western societies. The way we treat our sick and elderly as a society is shameful and at a family level, in many cases things don't look much better either.

Only you know if there’s more to the story with your daughter, but if you’re generally close, I completely understand why you feel unloved and disappointed. If your daughter’s recent lack of care is out of character for her, do pick up the phone, find out if there’s anything difficult going on in her life, try to make some nice plans together and have a proper talk at some point. I hope things improve for you, you’ve been through a pretty tough time and anyone would feel a bit fragile after that.

Exactly this!!! I couldn't agree more! It is seen more in the Western society I must say. It's quite appalling. Our parents cared for us when we were vulnerable, we owe them the same when it's their turn to be vulnerable.