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Would you go out with a short man?

371 replies

Maverick2022 · 06/05/2022 21:54

Not the most PC question, but....

Would you go out with a relatively short man eg I'm just under 5'6" and he's the same.

I've never gone out with a man the same height as me before, the prospect feels a bit odd. He's also v lightly built, which seems to emphasise it.

I've read that men routi eyes lie anoit height on dating sites etc due to mNy women's feelings about this/preferences etc.

How do you feel about it?

OP posts:
SmallThingsEverywhere · 07/05/2022 21:44

Lockheart · 07/05/2022 21:12

I didn't say you shouldn't have physical preferences. (My personal physical preference is Henry Cavill.)

I do think it's shallow to disregard someone totally because of their height. (Or because they're not Henry Cavill.)

You still haven't explained why settling comes into it or why someone dating a short(er) man (or someone who isn't Henry Cavill) is settling.

Why is it shallow to disregard someone based on physical appearance? You fancy who you fancy! I said that I would be settling by dating a short man, doesn’t matter to me whether another woman is happy to date a short man. Luckily I never had to and my DH is a gorgeous 6’3. Height is just a starting point by the way, but it is a pre requisite.

SmallThingsEverywhere · 07/05/2022 21:45

mintybobs · 07/05/2022 21:17

I dont find shorter men attractive - never have, probably never will. I really dont care if someone online thinks I am shallow. Its completely laughable that I'd change my dating preferences just because some random stranger online thinks I am "shallow" lol

Exactly!

Lockheart · 07/05/2022 21:57

SmallThingsEverywhere · 07/05/2022 21:44

Why is it shallow to disregard someone based on physical appearance? You fancy who you fancy! I said that I would be settling by dating a short man, doesn’t matter to me whether another woman is happy to date a short man. Luckily I never had to and my DH is a gorgeous 6’3. Height is just a starting point by the way, but it is a pre requisite.

No you didn't, you made a bitchy comment about feeling sorry for women who "feel they have to settle".

SmallThingsEverywhere · 07/05/2022 22:05

Lockheart · 07/05/2022 21:57

No you didn't, you made a bitchy comment about feeling sorry for women who "feel they have to settle".

I was referencing PP on this thread who are sadly apologising for being attracted to tall men, because people like you are calling them shallow. However I stand by what I said about not settling for short men. They just aren’t atttactive to me and I don’t think that I’m shallow, just honest. Stop trying to get women to “Be Kind”. Anyway, you do you and I’ll do me.

5128gap · 07/05/2022 22:08

It would be extremely shallow to disregard a short man as a friend on the basis of his height. But when it comes to a sexual partner different rules apply. I don't see why it's any more shallow to reject a man based on height than any other physical characteristic. And surely those saying it is are not prepared to consider every possible man as a sexual partner, regardless of his appearance as long as he has a nice personality?
I think sometimes people who are with short men themselves get a bit defensive about it tbh, almost as though they see it as implying their partners are substandard; when it's really just personal taste.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 07/05/2022 22:13

webseb · 07/05/2022 11:36

Glad it wasn't just me @Youwiththeglasses

I don't mind a PM but middle of the night message asking to talk about my reply on the 'small man' thread was odd. 😅

Same. I told the creepy incel to stop bothering women and grow up. Pathetic.

Palmtreechacha · 07/05/2022 22:22

5128gap · 07/05/2022 22:08

It would be extremely shallow to disregard a short man as a friend on the basis of his height. But when it comes to a sexual partner different rules apply. I don't see why it's any more shallow to reject a man based on height than any other physical characteristic. And surely those saying it is are not prepared to consider every possible man as a sexual partner, regardless of his appearance as long as he has a nice personality?
I think sometimes people who are with short men themselves get a bit defensive about it tbh, almost as though they see it as implying their partners are substandard; when it's really just personal taste.

I agree with all of this. You cant help who you find sexually attractive, and trying to convince yourself to find someone sexy (because it seems shallow to do otherwise) when you just don’t, is not only horribly patronising to that person but deeply unfair to them. They deserve someone who desires them just as much as you do. I literally cant think of anything more of a turn off than a guy “trying” to find me attractive because I’m really not his type but he’s trying desperately not to appear shallow! Eff that. I want someone who fancies the pants off me and vice versa.

I find tall men attractive. It’s not something I do deliberately, it’s just what does it for me personally. That’s beyond my control and I’m afraid I’m not going to be trying to talk myself out of it due to some misguided attempt at “fairness to men”. I also suspect the women getting irrationally angry about this are perhaps projecting their own concerns that others are somehow insulting their shorter male partners by saying they prefer tall men.

Atl · 07/05/2022 22:52

How tall is Henry Cavill?

webseb · 07/05/2022 23:01

webseb
Glad it wasn't just me @Youwiththeglasses

I don't mind a PM but middle of the night message asking to talk about my reply on the 'small man' thread was odd. 😅
Same. I told the creepy incel to stop bothering women and grow up. Pathetic.

That's four of us so far! One possibly not connected. I'm glad you told them, I just blocked immediately.

Anonanonon · 07/05/2022 23:22

SmallThingsEverywhere · 07/05/2022 21:44

Why is it shallow to disregard someone based on physical appearance? You fancy who you fancy! I said that I would be settling by dating a short man, doesn’t matter to me whether another woman is happy to date a short man. Luckily I never had to and my DH is a gorgeous 6’3. Height is just a starting point by the way, but it is a pre requisite.

Well, semantically it is shallow because it’s a judgement based purely on surface - thus not especially deep - criteria. Indeed, that’s presumably why the word “shallow” is used. You have to “wade in a bit deeper” as it were, to find out if you click with someone, share a sense of humour or if their a decent or kind person.

I think the point is more, is being “shallow” a bad thing.

Lovesgreen · 08/05/2022 00:36

The main thing that attracted me to DH to start with was his height, 6.4! Our DS loves that he is tall as well (16 and 6ft)

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 08/05/2022 00:46

GingeryLemons · 06/05/2022 21:57

My partner is a woman and shorter than me. It is not an issue. She's a wonderful human being and we are very happy.

I take it from this you are a woman too? Interesting isn't it that the height thing seems only prevalent in heterosexual relationships (AFAIK anyway). I've never heard any gay people have this sort of angst about height of prospective partners.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 08/05/2022 00:52

ParisNoir · 07/05/2022 17:32

I completely disagree. Old knackered men dating young gorgeous women is still accepted in our culture. Look at the movies- you rarely if ever see an older woman with a much younger toyboy and if you do, comments are made about it. Noone bats an eyelid on the other hand when some aging old male rocker marries a glamour model half his age. I also dont consider it "equality" to be told I should date a man I dont actually fancy thanks.

I think they do. Duncan Bannatyne has attracted some very sarcastic remarks, so has Bernie Ecclestone.

Onthedunes · 08/05/2022 02:17

Collardgreens · 07/05/2022 11:16

i am tall. For evolution’s sake, I married a short man.

we can’t just keep growing upwards as a species. Look at what happened to the dinosaurs … (closing textbook, satisfied that dinosaurs became extinct when they all got bad backs and couldn’t get out of bed).

Good call.

Mother Nature does have some bearing on this, at least withon the child bearing/wanting years, not so much with the later relationships.

For producing children the optimum requirements for the health and survival of the child is being filtered. That's why

short women/tall men
short men/tall women
weighty partner skinny partner

dark skin/pale skin
inellegent/not so intellegent

There are many opposites that attract to balance things out in nature that are hard to overcome when you want to procreate. I do think there is heightism though directed towards short men, it's not something they can change and personally I find it a bit distasteful the way they are spoken about.
If that question was directed and made to single out others, there would be uproar.

BiscuitLover3678 · 08/05/2022 02:38

I love how we’re all different - I’d much rather date an attractive man around my height! Just my preference. 😁Hopefully we all get the good ones whoever they are.

Toddlerteaplease · 08/05/2022 02:50

Yes because I'm
Not that shallow!

Anonanonon · 08/05/2022 03:24

Onthedunes · 08/05/2022 02:17

Good call.

Mother Nature does have some bearing on this, at least withon the child bearing/wanting years, not so much with the later relationships.

For producing children the optimum requirements for the health and survival of the child is being filtered. That's why

short women/tall men
short men/tall women
weighty partner skinny partner

dark skin/pale skin
inellegent/not so intellegent

There are many opposites that attract to balance things out in nature that are hard to overcome when you want to procreate. I do think there is heightism though directed towards short men, it's not something they can change and personally I find it a bit distasteful the way they are spoken about.
If that question was directed and made to single out others, there would be uproar.

Hmm… I’m struggling to recall all those skinny supermodels dating obese men, to be honest. And intelligent people pair up with thick people? Really?

TomPinch · 08/05/2022 04:07

Hrpuffnstuff1 · 07/05/2022 17:49

😂😂😂
Thread hijacked by the usual.
😂😂😂

🖐️ (short high-five)

TomPinch · 08/05/2022 04:24

I'm a short, skinny man. There are actually some advantages.

  1. The few women interested in me were really interested, and liked my vital statistics. DW is obsessed with my skinny elbows. It takes all sorts to make a world, I suppose.
  1. I've always had very good women friends and I reckon on part that's because attraction isn't getting in the way. That's been a very enriching part of my life.

People will comment on my size (ie, one female work colleague refers to me as 'her little friend' but tbh it's not something that ought to bother anyone. I don't think anyone needs to pity me

Small man syndrome is definitely a thing. It is easy to be overlooked, and it's easy to overcompensate by being over-assertive. Naturally I overcome this with my carefully cultivated charm. 😂

tuliplover · 08/05/2022 05:44

Ive gone out with a guy three inches shorter. I'm 5' 11". He was quite muscular so I didn't feel like a giant.
My husband was my height and that was (obviously) fine.

ACupofTeaandaSliceofCake · 08/05/2022 06:23

They have to be at least 2 inches taller than me. I’m 5ft 6ins. Not too tall though.

Florrey · 08/05/2022 06:32

Height wouldn’t bother me. Lightly built would, I don’t want to date someone smaller and thinner than me. I tried it and it felt too feminine, and I’m not that way inclined. He can be short but he still has to be a man.

mintybobs · 08/05/2022 07:03

I think the point is more, is being “shallow” a bad thing

When you first see someone in a bar or wherever you might meet them, what you are first attracted to is their looks. You cannot "see" people's personalities. So, you see someone you find attractive and then talk to them to see if they also have a nice personality, or a personality that appeals/matches to you. Thats pretty much how dating has been working for centuries- same now with Tinder. Of course some people you might meet first and get to know as friends and then it develops into more but there has to be some attraction there as otherwise they'd just stay as a friend wouldnt they?

I think its hugely hypocritical that some in this thread are calling others shallow when I am quite sure they too have certain physical preferences. They might not be bothered about height but I am quite sure they wouldnt date just anyone who is male, regardless of what they looked like. I agree with PP that their partners are probably shorter men which is why they are taking this so personally and calling people "shallow".

5128gap · 08/05/2022 08:03

All this pity because short men don't get to have first pick of any woman they might want. It's not like no woman wants them, just their choices may be more limited than a taller man's.
Perhaps rather than trying to persuade women they should be less shallow, short men should be less shallow themselves, and start considering a broader range of women, rather than whinging about the ones they can't have.

ParisNoir · 08/05/2022 08:09

Perhaps rather than trying to persuade women they should be less shallow, short men should be less shallow themselves, and start considering a broader range of women, rather than whinging about the ones they can't have

I agree, but apparently, from this thread it appears its only women who arent allowed to be "shallow" and get judged for it. Men on the other hand, can be as shallow as they like and its all fine! 🙄