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Is this a middle aged man thing or have I been unlucky?

216 replies

crochetmonkey74 · 24/04/2022 09:12

Lighthearted but also WTF -So I am OLD at the moment , and I'm noticing that quite a few of the men I'm talking to are so narrow minded and set in their ways.
Current experiences are : a guy commenting on the necklace I was wearing (a spider) and making a big thing out of how it wasn't a normal choice of a necklace, was I a goth etc. (I literally look nothing like a goth and the necklace was from Matalan so completely 'mainstream') Another guy while we were on a date - a little boy came running up to our table, clearly a boy, boys clothes, boys name when the mum called him. Afterwards my date made a big deal of deliberately not knowing if it was a boy or girl - kept saying "he? She? " when I said clearly a boy he replied with "but he had long hair" Are they just deliberately obtuse? Final guy googles everything I say and then says "if I remember rightly, that was built in ..... by ....." as if he knew these really obscure facts. WTF is going on , are they just all tedious old bores or have I been unlucky? (Lighthearted looking for solidarity)

OP posts:
JollyGoodBunting · 26/04/2022 08:56

Fireflygal · 26/04/2022 08:18

@BlueSlate, Glad you have found a good man. As he's 12 years older it further confirms my thoughts that men look to date a younger age range once they hit mid 40s.

@crochetmonkey74, good luck for the date. You seem to the right attitude.

Most of them aren't George Clooney. Their success with younger women therefore isn't great. That's why they get so angry and bitter.

ValerieCupcake · 26/04/2022 09:06

crochetmonkey74 · 24/04/2022 09:52

On one particular date we were meeting for a coffee in a pub. I got there slightly early , bought my own drink, and read my book until he got there. I endured an hour where he kept bringing up how weird it was to have both a coffee and a book in a pub

Why is it weirder than a bloke reading a paper and having a pint in a pub? 😞

JollyGoodBunting · 26/04/2022 09:46

hair cut sensibly short not stylishly short.

No, they don't like women with short hair. How dare you have hair that's easy to manage. It must be long to attract men.

JollyGoodBunting · 26/04/2022 09:46

hair cut sensibly short not stylishly short.

No, they don't like women with short hair. How dare you have hair that's easy to manage. It must be long to attract men.

brookstar · 26/04/2022 09:53

JollyGoodBunting · 26/04/2022 09:46

hair cut sensibly short not stylishly short.

No, they don't like women with short hair. How dare you have hair that's easy to manage. It must be long to attract men.

This is really interesting. I have short hair - fashionably short and it's an unusual colour. It attracts attention put it that way!
My friends pointed out to me at the weekend that women and gay men obsess over my hair but straight men seem to thinks it's acceptable to either criticise it or take the piss. They never say anything nice.

I'd not really noticed but my husband agreed as it's something he'd noticed too.

Strange!

toomanytwinkies · 26/04/2022 09:53

I have long hair and gasp straight, but it’s that way as it’s part nature and part I like it that way. I never once think of men when doing my hair, makeup or clothes. In fact I prefer women to think I look nice as they are more fashionable/trendy and don’t have the objectifying ‘male gaze’

brookstar · 26/04/2022 09:54

JollyGoodBunting · 26/04/2022 09:46

hair cut sensibly short not stylishly short.

No, they don't like women with short hair. How dare you have hair that's easy to manage. It must be long to attract men.

This is really interesting. I have short hair - fashionably short and it's an unusual colour. It attracts attention put it that way!
My friends pointed out to me at the weekend that women and gay men obsess over my hair but straight men seem to thinks it's acceptable to either criticise it or take the piss. They never say anything nice.

I'd not really noticed but my husband agreed as it's something he'd noticed too.

Strange!

toomanytwinkies · 26/04/2022 09:55

ValerieCupcake · 26/04/2022 09:06

Why is it weirder than a bloke reading a paper and having a pint in a pub? 😞

Cos womens are just there as decoration for the mens. Certain men think our lives revolve around what they think of us.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:14

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:14

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:14

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:15

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:15

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:15

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:16

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:16

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:16

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:16

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:17

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:17

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:17

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:17

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:18

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:18

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.

FictionalCharacter · 26/04/2022 10:18

@BitOutOfPractice Spot on. A lot of older men have narrow, fixed ideas of what a woman is and does, and it's modelled on their (usually traditional) mum and granny. If they encounter a woman who doesn't fit this mould, their software crashes. Instead of learning that women are in fact a diverse group of actual human beings, they spend their energy in a relationship on trying to control her, or if that fails, making endless ridiculous comments.
Sadly some younger men are like this too, but some of them base their Normal Woman blueprint on what they see on social media.