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Dating Thread 227- Stepping Into Summer

962 replies

ICrunchCrispsNotNumbers · 09/04/2022 21:01

The Rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. Know your worth.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Treat others as you'd like to be treated 12. Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with 13. The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future 14. OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy.

Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item.

OP posts:
Thisisworsethananticpated · 17/04/2022 13:20

gelatodipistacchio

Yay for the walk !
Can’t wait for updates 👍

I’m so over this travel
But twice in a fortnight and the remote location doesn’t help
It’s also raining 🇮🇹😬🍕

Thisisworsethananticpated · 17/04/2022 13:22

ICrunchCrispsNotNumbers

I’m sorry to hear that x hope the pain abated soonest xxxx

ICrunchCrispsNotNumbers · 17/04/2022 13:28

@Thisisworsethananticpated

ICrunchCrispsNotNumbers

I’m sorry to hear that x hope the pain abated soonest xxxx

Thank you @Thisisworsethananticpated ❤️😘
OP posts:
Badbaddog · 17/04/2022 13:56

I’ve not been on the apps for a while but it always seemed to me that Bumble had a higher percentage of fake profiles than even Tinder. It’s nothing personal, seriously. The app sets up fake profiles and fake likes to keep you using the app. It doesn’t seem to realise that all it achieves is dismay and disillusion among its customers.

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 17/04/2022 15:41

@anotherdisaster

Getting disheartened with OLD once again. Not sure what I’m doing wrong on Bumble but I’ve had quite a few matches but guys just don’t bother to reply. Out of maybe 10 matches I’ve had 2 replies and one of those was so rubbish I unmatched him straight away. I got very little from Hinge. I realise some guys might just have changed their mind when I message but 80% of them??
I doubt you are doing anything wrong, but just seems to be how people are these days, I certainly found the same last year, the majority of women didn’t respond, it’s pretty disheartening tbh.
HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 17/04/2022 15:51

@FloydPepper
“We have pretty much silence and have to try and get a conversation going from very little interest.”
Yep, 💯 agree with that, I (personally), think for most ordinary men ( I count myself as one), OLD is pretty poor return for the amount of time, energy, emotional effort and potentially money ( if you pay), as so women respond, not sure I would ever go back to OLD again

gelatodipistacchio · 17/04/2022 16:04

I didn't realise quite how difficult OLD was for men. That must be super demoralising.

As a woman, most of my likes are from totally unsuitable men, but at least there is some interest there.

SortingItOut · 17/04/2022 16:36

@HowlongWillThisTakeNow How was your time with Miss H?

Penguinwaddler · 17/04/2022 16:55

Well, I'm dipping my toes back into online dating. Had a nice date yesterday evening complete with nice goodnight kiss... Followed by a full frontal nude picture later that night 😭

Daydreamscometrue · 17/04/2022 18:07

@Penguinwaddler

Well, I'm dipping my toes back into online dating. Had a nice date yesterday evening complete with nice goodnight kiss... Followed by a full frontal nude picture later that night 😭
No!!!!! He just sent a picture?? That's terrible!
Thisisworsethananticpated · 17/04/2022 20:00

Penguinwaddler

Well he’s totally blown it hasn’t he
What a muppet
What comes over them ???
Would you have seen him again had it not been for 🍆 gate ?

Jesus

gelatodipistacchio · 17/04/2022 20:23

@Penguinwaddler 🤢 I truly don't understand why they do things like this. Sorry that happened to you - what a disappointment

Penguinwaddler · 17/04/2022 20:29

Thanks all! Such a disappointment. I was getting the impression he was a bit that way inclined but thought I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. Probably would've seen him again but I know where his head is at now so it's a no from me 🤷

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 17/04/2022 21:06

@gelatodipistacchio

I didn't realise quite how difficult OLD was for men. That must be super demoralising.

As a woman, most of my likes are from totally unsuitable men, but at least there is some interest there.

Yeah, I would it’s different for men, personally I’ve was never sent rude or nasty messages or nudes, but then I hardly got any interest at all really
HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 17/04/2022 21:15

@SortingItOut
Was awesome thanks, we had a great meal, I booked a taxi so could both have a drink, I stayed over at her place, was good to spend some quality time together, in the bedroom she was insatiable we went round 1 & 2, and in the morning she wanted to go round 3 !, unfortunately couldn’t manage that 😞, I hope she wasn’t too disappointed in me.

ICrunchCrispsNotNumbers · 18/04/2022 01:02

Hi all,

Feeling a little better now, so just catching up.

@HowlongWillThisTakeNow so glad you had a nice time with Miss H. Your update really cheered me up! And of course she won't be disappointed in you Smile

@Penguinwaddler what a shame your iron had to do that after such a promising date. He sounds like a right tool! Glad you've thrown him back into the wild 🙂😂🤣

OP posts:
SortingItOut · 18/04/2022 06:29

@HowlongWillThisTakeNow Sounds like you had a fab time. So it was worth swapping your plans around then?
I'm sure she will be fine about no round 3.

Have you got your next meet planned?

ButterflyOfShay · 18/04/2022 06:53

@Penguinwaddler wish there was some way of reporting these creeps so their employer gets alerted or they get an asbo or something. Something where online flashing has a detrimental and lasting impact on their lives. Boils my blood the mentality where they think its acceptable to do this. It’s the equivalent of hiding in the bushes when someone walks past and exposing themselves. NOT COOL. Disturbing how many men think it’s ok..

ButterflyOfShay · 18/04/2022 06:57

Every time I start wondering if I should give OLD another try, maybe it’s improved, I read another bad tale on here and think nooooo. It’s never going to get better is it. I’ll just stay single and ironless forever and ever and ever amen. 😇

Did everyone have a nice little Easter? @HowlongWillThisTakeNow sounds like you’ve been having a wonderful time and the grand national sounded like it didn’t disappoint 😆😆

ibelieveinmirrorballs · 18/04/2022 08:04

Morning everyone - hope the weather is as glorious with you all as it has been here. I've had a lovely fairly quiet Easter weekend with the DC and just enjoying the break from work.

@HowlongWillThisTakeNow how did you meet MsH again..? I recall you have very good luck meeting people off the apps which is highly admirable! Great to hear you had a good time with MsH - again quite inspiring that it's worth keeping going with something as I remembered you weren't sure after the first date Smile

@ButterflyOfShay I know what you mean about the bad stories but I also try to think about the good ones. My experience of OLD has certainly had its share of ups and downs but I know that overall, it's been a really positive experience because it's like learning resilience and learning how to be intimate, and how to hone/shape/articulate what it is that I want (as well as learning quite sharply what I don't want). Anything that operates in the field of relationships/intimacy is going to have us operating at our most vulnerable... add to that the fact that we're trying to do that with frankly a random bag of strangers and it's never going to be without its bumps in the road. In two years I've had dates with about 10 people. None of them have been disasters, 4 have led to sex and 3 into relationships (the final one of which is a tbc at the moment...). The first one ghosted me after we'd been together for a couple of months and I was traumatised about that - but from that experience think I also learned a lot about not falling for love bombing over-promisers!

Bottom line really I think is that although this thread (and the many others on the subject of OLD on this board) is testament to the risks, pitfalls, and absolute nightmares that we can encounter, in many ways that's dating life in general. It is risky, it can feel like we're putting our hearts on the line, and we have to trust another person with our feelings. It's hard - and I've had more than one breakup that has left me feeling like I just can't do this again. But in time I reflect and think that I also don't want to retreat into being on my own for the rest of my life. I've met some great people OLD, some real characters I never would have met ordinarily, and a couple of them are now friends.

Back to current situation... after discussion with therapist (and a bit of a knuckle-rapping from her about rushing into things) I sent Ginge something of a 'shall we dial things back and start again, or maybe just leave it?' message over the weekend. He's replied suggesting we meet for a more chaste date later this week, on a day when I absolutely would need to get the train home, and see how it goes. He also said he felt a bit weird after our last date and that he'd like to take things slowly. After not much contact last week with him away, he's now back in the land of the living and we're due to speak on the phone later this morning. So this is a new thing for me - focusing on taking things more slowly, getting sex out of the equation, and seeing whether there's anything there to build on.

ButterflyOfShay · 18/04/2022 08:59

Hey @ibelieveinmirrorballs great post. It’s really positive that you’ve seen it as a good tool for teaching you useful bits and pieces from all your experiences on there. I really admire everyone’s resilience from bouncing back from low points and trying again. I feel like maybe I’m a lot more reserved and prefer to go at a much slower pace when getting to know someone I think maybe I’m too much of a closed book when it comes to it and in life in general it takes me a lonnnng time to let someone in, so perhaps it’s just not the right format for me which is why I hate it so much 😂 maybe I just need to lighten the hell up but deep down I don’t really want to change 🙂
Sorry for the self indulgent old waffle! 💗 @Mirrorballs sounds like an interesting one with Mr Ginge… do you fancy him? Wonder if the next date will actually be chaste 😁

Eesha · 18/04/2022 09:23

@ButterflyOfShay I do understand where you are coming from though. I think you have to be incredibly thick skinned to do it but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an easier way to meet people! I force myself at times purely because I want a relationship and I know that with my lifestyle, its really hard to meet someone unless on the school run! I guess it's about how badly you want to meet someone and also how you feel about yourself too. You sound like you are going through a period of self care and healing anyway so at some point you might want to do it.

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 18/04/2022 09:46

@ibelieveinmirrorballs
I followed my own advice and cultivated some personal relationships, ms H was the friend of a female friend, and TBH if I had seem her online I would have probably not matched with her as her interests are nothing like mine, but all the better for it.
Yes I have more luck with meeting ppl IRL, maybe because it’s a more natural meeting and you get to know people at a more natural pace.

@SortingItOut
No, next meeting not arranged, availability is the only fly in the ointment,

ibelieveinmirrorballs · 18/04/2022 10:13

@ButterflyOfShay

Hey *@ibelieveinmirrorballs* great post. It’s really positive that you’ve seen it as a good tool for teaching you useful bits and pieces from all your experiences on there. I really admire everyone’s resilience from bouncing back from low points and trying again. I feel like maybe I’m a lot more reserved and prefer to go at a much slower pace when getting to know someone I think maybe I’m too much of a closed book when it comes to it and in life in general it takes me a lonnnng time to let someone in, so perhaps it’s just not the right format for me which is why I hate it so much 😂 maybe I just need to lighten the hell up but deep down I don’t really want to change 🙂 Sorry for the self indulgent old waffle! 💗 *@Mirrorballs* sounds like an interesting one with Mr Ginge… do you fancy him? Wonder if the next date will actually be chaste 😁
I think we have to trust our own instincts with it in terms of when (if ever) we feel ready for it - I swerved it for the first 5 years post-separation as I couldn’t stomach the thought of OLD at all.

Ref Ginge, well… I do fancy him but it’s completely different to MrM who was an absolute sex genius with an incredible physique. I had the realisation the other day that I felt more intimacy in my one evening with Ginge than I ever did with the emotionally unavailable MrM. And in turn that made me slightly reassess what I should be prioritising. Not to say anything will come of Mr Ginger but food for thought. He’s definitely a sensitive emotionally available type and historically I would pass someone like him over for yet another cut-out-and-keep unavailable sort. But look where that’s got me! HmmGrin

Eesha · 18/04/2022 11:03

@HowlongWillThisTakeNow I think that's a really interesting post about Miss H and how you may not have swiped on her as her interests are completely different. I often. swipe left on people because they rave about partners in crime with travel (i hate flying so going on holiday is really tough on me mentally) plus all the stuff on sky diving, bungee jumping etc really puts me off as I love nice restaurants, long walks, great sex! I never assume anyone would like all these things. Ironically my prior two partners said all these things but were happy to spend days gaming or smoking week. Funny how people don't mention those hobbies much!