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I’m 99% sure my friend’s boyfriend isn’t what he seems

548 replies

Maybeknights · 14/12/2021 20:34

Ok this is a bit of a saga but I’m constantly worrying about her and don’t know what to do. Here goes…

My friend met someone online a few years ago and they ‘dated’ for about 6 months. By dated I mean he popped over to her flat whenever he could. They never actually went out together and nobody met him. He is apparently in the army and everything he does is very secretive, he can’t take any time off so those stolen moments were all they could have. After a while my friend found this too difficult so threatened to break it off and he told her he would leave the army. He wrote his resignation letter and showed her before submitting it. Next thing she bumped into him in public at a busy tube station and went to kiss him and he pushed her away and acted like he didn’t know her… when she text to ask wtf he said his feeling had changed and that was that!!! She was REALLY sad. He never contacted her again.

Fast forward 3-4 years and she says that she’s dating him again. After 4 weeks they have said they love one another and are talking about buying a house together. My friend owns her own flat but is currently job searching after bing made redundant earlier this year. I asked her how he explained what happened last time and she was in total denial - said it never happened. He was in a bad place, ptsd, etc and wasn’t in the right space for a relationship so it ended. Now he’s all good and they’ve picked up like they were never apart…

I asked what had changed in terms of his availability and she said nothing has, but now since being alone in covid lockdown she’s willing to put up with it rather than not be with him. He’s still coming over at night a few times a week and they still haven’t been anywhere together and nobody had met him still! He has said he’ll go to her parents for Christmas Day but I 100% guarantee some kind of emergency will mean that he can’t!

On to the red flags:

  • The regiment he says he’s part of isn’t based where he says he’s based.
  • the stories he tells about what he’s been doing are totally out of line with his supposed army job. The things he’s supposedly doing are like scenes from James Bond movies and would be the responsibility of anti terror police, MI5, interpol etc. so far fetched
  • I asked if she’d be going to any Christmas balls or dinners on his arm and she said there wouldn’t be any. My friends with army husbands are going to lots of different functions
  • she said his family live up north and he’s not close to them but he has a sister who lives nearby with her two kids who he sees a lot (I’m sure this is cover for his wife and kids incase my friend sees him out with them!)
  • he can’t book any time off work
  • he smothers her with compliments and platitudes and I think he’s just making her drop her guard completely so she’ll do anything he says
  • he won’t have his photo taken. She doesn’t have a single photo of him apart from the one from his original dating profile

I’m really worried if I ask too many questions or act too suspicious she’ll start keeping secrets from me but I feel like I need to keep a close eye on this! What would you do? I also think she’s so deeply in love that if I ever speak against him it would deeply threaten our friendship. When she told me about being back with him she was almost manic. It didn’t sound like her speaking at all. It had only be 4 weeks and she started talking about weddings and things.

During lockdown she was suffering from really bad anxiety and depression and was incredibly lonely. I really fear he could break her heart and push her over the edge. She’s even said now that she doesn’t want to look for a new job or will look for something exclusively from home so she can be around when he’s available…

Am I just be super suspicious? And what would you do?!

OP posts:
Loopyloopy · 07/07/2022 14:23

Bother. I was hoping there was an update.

WandaLust101 · 07/07/2022 14:27

Can you hire a private investigator to follow him, document his blatant double life, and then anonymously deliver the damning evidence to your friend? Or hand it over to her yourself.

I’d do everything I could to help her if I were in your shoes. He sounds toxic as fuck.

MiniPiccolo · 07/07/2022 14:28

Drop in when he's supposedly there.

Cameronnorrieisabitofalright · 07/07/2022 14:29

My ds is in the army and had Covid. They certainly do not make you miss time off afterwards! Ds was in his room a week. Suggest to your friend she writes to him and asks for his army number and address etc. Say sending a food parcel is always appreciated by soldiers even when based on home soil!

dawngreen · 07/07/2022 14:37

Reminds me of a ex of my sisters. He sent her endless text messages, and he actually worked at the same work place. She never got to talk to him at work, and once he knocked her over racing through a entrance at work. He acted like he had never met her, and not even a sorry. The sister who he let sleep on his bedroom floor was his girlfriend.

Oioicaptain · 07/07/2022 14:54

The moment that he showed her his resignation letter was a huge red flag! It was quite obviously an attempt to convince her that he worked for the army.

If you live close by I would 'drop by' when you suspect that he is visiting and get a photo of them together. Then do some detective work. Alternatively write to the regiment that he supposedly works for and say that you have concerns about someone misrepresenting the army. If he doesn't work there, then I'm sure they would let you know.

SVRT19674 · 07/07/2022 14:59

Would love to hear how this went. I remember this thread well.

QuebecBagnet · 07/07/2022 15:02

A friend had a very similar relationship. He said he was in the army, limited visiting, no photos, nobody met him, she didn’t meet any friends or family.

then he got deployed to the USA for six months, he’d ring her, message her, etc while he was out there. After three months of that she went to tesco one day and he was shopping in tesco with his wife/partner. There was a heated confrontation in the car park. 👀

Oioicaptain · 07/07/2022 15:11

Aha. A zombie thread!
I'd still love to know what has happened since though.

resetsmart · 07/07/2022 15:38

@Maybeknights

Hope your friend ditched this lying loser!

Sirlancealot · 07/07/2022 15:47

More red flags, than May Day in Red Square, Moscow.

1000yellowdaisies · 07/07/2022 16:01

I would love an update as well! Hope the friend is okay.

SurfBox · 07/07/2022 16:12

hire a pi and find out, he sounds dodgy

Fuckitydoodah · 07/07/2022 16:34

Ooh please come back and update us OP

SheilaWilcox · 07/07/2022 16:38

I'd love to know what happened too.
I'm off to find the Mitty FB pages. I had no idea this sort of thing was common.

BasiliskStare · 07/07/2022 16:39

I had a friend who met a chap on line - not army . There was always an excuse. He apparently worked for a large international company & was away a lot often at short notice - his father was apparently then taken ill - then his mother was taken ill in a foreign country - One time my friend had her bags packed for a weekend away and he cancelled at almost no notice. After seeing her so dejected another friend of ours rang the company he was meant to work for to speak to him & guess what he did not exist.

I wish your friend well OP but just one story - not saying it is your friend's

DuckBilledPlattyJoobs · 07/07/2022 16:49

He sounds like a married fantasist. Hope you can get your friend to see sense.

Justleaveitblankthen · 07/07/2022 16:52

Loopyloopy · 07/07/2022 14:23

Bother. I was hoping there was an update.

Me too, removed my bookmark and 'flipped' this t for no reason. Wonder what happened next?

SamBeckettslastleap · 07/07/2022 16:56

@BasiliskStare

What did your friend do in the end?

KosherDill · 07/07/2022 16:56

I would not be able to resist doing the detective work on this one. Online research, follow him home, etc.

I wonder if he's even given her his real name. If not that could make the due diligence difficult. But I'd lurk about and follow him for sure.

OP does she live far from you; is this feasible?

Reginaldina · 07/07/2022 17:08

He is 100% married/partnered. No doubt about it.
I personally, would follow him to his home, to confirm my suspicions, or put his photo (from the dating profile) into google and do some searches, but that's because I'm really nosy and have always secretly wanted to be a private detective. 🤓
It sounds like she's head over heels for him so regardless of what you do or say, she's not going to listen if you do raise your concerns. You could point out/question why they don't go anywhere and why he's not met any of her family, but I don't think it will make a difference. She'd going to have to find out the hard way I think.

Grrrpredictivetex · 07/07/2022 17:10

@Maybeknights ? Forgot about this thread.

Justkidding55 · 07/07/2022 17:24

I would leave her to it. Honestly as much as you care sometimes you have to accept that people have to make their own choices. If you are worried about her mental health then maybe talk to someone In social services about her being a potentially vulnerable adult and leave it at their door.

BasiliskStare · 07/07/2022 18:42

@SamBeckettslastleap Once she realised he had given her a false name and taken her for granted and told untruths she blocked him and moved on. It was not nice because he came across as a chap very interested in her - but it was obvious he wanted a girlfriend when it suited him & he was promising her things which would never happen. The thing was he had signed up to a dating site with a false name and lied about his job etc. I think she was upset that someone could do this - but moved on.

Schmz · 07/07/2022 18:43

In my experience these men that lie about having been in the forces, have PTSD etc are not married but …
Often have prison records, are feckless, looking for vulnerable women to cocklodge with, want to be looked after, with having to make minimal effort - I can’t work / help / be nice cos I’ve got PTSD….
they are often substance abusers, seek prescription medication for their woes and therapy that they don’t need for their ‘ptsd’ all
part of the poor me thing