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I’m 99% sure my friend’s boyfriend isn’t what he seems

548 replies

Maybeknights · 14/12/2021 20:34

Ok this is a bit of a saga but I’m constantly worrying about her and don’t know what to do. Here goes…

My friend met someone online a few years ago and they ‘dated’ for about 6 months. By dated I mean he popped over to her flat whenever he could. They never actually went out together and nobody met him. He is apparently in the army and everything he does is very secretive, he can’t take any time off so those stolen moments were all they could have. After a while my friend found this too difficult so threatened to break it off and he told her he would leave the army. He wrote his resignation letter and showed her before submitting it. Next thing she bumped into him in public at a busy tube station and went to kiss him and he pushed her away and acted like he didn’t know her… when she text to ask wtf he said his feeling had changed and that was that!!! She was REALLY sad. He never contacted her again.

Fast forward 3-4 years and she says that she’s dating him again. After 4 weeks they have said they love one another and are talking about buying a house together. My friend owns her own flat but is currently job searching after bing made redundant earlier this year. I asked her how he explained what happened last time and she was in total denial - said it never happened. He was in a bad place, ptsd, etc and wasn’t in the right space for a relationship so it ended. Now he’s all good and they’ve picked up like they were never apart…

I asked what had changed in terms of his availability and she said nothing has, but now since being alone in covid lockdown she’s willing to put up with it rather than not be with him. He’s still coming over at night a few times a week and they still haven’t been anywhere together and nobody had met him still! He has said he’ll go to her parents for Christmas Day but I 100% guarantee some kind of emergency will mean that he can’t!

On to the red flags:

  • The regiment he says he’s part of isn’t based where he says he’s based.
  • the stories he tells about what he’s been doing are totally out of line with his supposed army job. The things he’s supposedly doing are like scenes from James Bond movies and would be the responsibility of anti terror police, MI5, interpol etc. so far fetched
  • I asked if she’d be going to any Christmas balls or dinners on his arm and she said there wouldn’t be any. My friends with army husbands are going to lots of different functions
  • she said his family live up north and he’s not close to them but he has a sister who lives nearby with her two kids who he sees a lot (I’m sure this is cover for his wife and kids incase my friend sees him out with them!)
  • he can’t book any time off work
  • he smothers her with compliments and platitudes and I think he’s just making her drop her guard completely so she’ll do anything he says
  • he won’t have his photo taken. She doesn’t have a single photo of him apart from the one from his original dating profile

I’m really worried if I ask too many questions or act too suspicious she’ll start keeping secrets from me but I feel like I need to keep a close eye on this! What would you do? I also think she’s so deeply in love that if I ever speak against him it would deeply threaten our friendship. When she told me about being back with him she was almost manic. It didn’t sound like her speaking at all. It had only be 4 weeks and she started talking about weddings and things.

During lockdown she was suffering from really bad anxiety and depression and was incredibly lonely. I really fear he could break her heart and push her over the edge. She’s even said now that she doesn’t want to look for a new job or will look for something exclusively from home so she can be around when he’s available…

Am I just be super suspicious? And what would you do?!

OP posts:
JSL52 · 25/12/2021 12:07

How frustrating for you. Poor woman.

sherryoclock · 25/12/2021 12:21

Oh god! Send her a bag of
Coffee and tell her smell it hard

sherryoclock · 25/12/2021 12:22

He is EVIL! He has let her spend xmas alone knowing along this would happen

Yuledo · 25/12/2021 14:32

So that’s 10 days he’s spending worth his other family. Wonder how many men covid has been convenient for.

StrongerOrWeaker · 25/12/2021 15:10

What I would do is have a chat with her using some concrete evidence ( regiment, resignation,etc). Tell her what you are worried about and leave it to that. In my experience insisting doesn't help and might have actually turn her against you.

massiveblob · 25/12/2021 22:44

I know 2 friends who have experienced this. One was the wife, one was the OW. Your friend will be devastated when she admits it. But I'm a few years time might realise a lucky escape

Suzanne999 · 25/12/2021 23:15

Definitely married. Possible she has false name for him so you can’t track SM.
Any way you can arrange a double date and get a pic of him? Then you could do an image search online.

LadyEloise1 · 26/12/2021 10:23

@sherryoclock
".....send her a bag of coffee and tell her smell it hard."
Smile

Lex345 · 26/12/2021 11:47

lost her phone and used my phone to keep in touch with him so he definitely existed then

@passthepesto suggestion for Whatsapp is a really good shout I think. If you are lucky you may even get a name. You could also google the phone number.

Genvonklinkerhoffen · 26/12/2021 12:07

He's absolutely not in the military.

Calamitydrayne · 26/12/2021 12:10

Sadly you are going to have to let her learn the hard way. Just be there for her when it does all fall apart and she wakes from sleepwalking through this mess.

HaggisBurger · 26/12/2021 12:46

Gosh what a coincidence that every person on this thread inc @Maybeknights predicted he wouldn’t show up for Xmas day. And Lo it’s came to pass. Covid is a liars best friend but he’s used up that card now …
I am so sorry for your friend. But the needs to catch a grip

hurkledurkle · 26/12/2021 13:06

My dad was in the military. My brother has been in for the past 25 years. I grew up with that world and nothing this man is saying makes any sense. Special Forces guys don't tell people they're casually dating what they do, and their partners are security vetted. They also aren't being deployed on vaccination drives. Special forces make up a tiny proportion of the military, they have highly specific training that fits them for particular roles, and it would make zero sense for them to be out vaccinating people when there are thousands of squaddies who can do it. None of this adds up. Your friend is sadly very gullible.

Genvonklinkerhoffen · 26/12/2021 14:09

No partners of military personnel are vetted, SF or not.

thefourgp · 26/12/2021 14:27

I think the power of denial is often under estimated. It must be an extremely lonely life, if you’re that desperate for crumbs of affection, that you’re willing to go along with such obvious lies.

me109f · 26/12/2021 23:11

Why is your friend so devoted to such an unreliable, deceitful, fly-by-night arsehole? He definitely sounds manipulative and insincere and should be told to sod off forever.
What is your friends real problem? How come in over 4 years she cannot find a normal guy? She needs your help in seeing the light because this man could be dangerous and she clearly does not know his true background.

EekGoesTheBaby · 27/12/2021 07:21

Thanks for the update, OP, and I'm sorry for your friend that, as many people on this thread predicted, he would be suddenly unavailable at Christmas.

If he is actually on lockdown alone in his room, she would be hearing a lot more from him because after the initial part of being ill he would be really bored. If he's having a shiny Christmas moment with his wife and kids, she'll hardly hear from him at all.

I hope she sees the truth soon.

Mumof3confused · 27/12/2021 12:53

Has she FaceTimed him from his room over the weekend? Or even spoken to him?

Olliesocks · 27/12/2021 13:55

@me109f

Why is your friend so devoted to such an unreliable, deceitful, fly-by-night arsehole? He definitely sounds manipulative and insincere and should be told to sod off forever. What is your friends real problem? How come in over 4 years she cannot find a normal guy? She needs your help in seeing the light because this man could be dangerous and she clearly does not know his true background.
Why are you blaming the friend for this Walts shitty behaviour?
ErrmWTAF · 27/12/2021 16:11

Another adding my voice to the chorus of non-surprise.

I dearly hope this Christmas will have been a wake-up call for your friend.

Yearonebesties · 27/12/2021 19:35

Oh how sad 😭

HappenstanceMarmite · 31/12/2021 12:27

Tell your friend to listen to this podcast:
podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/chasing-charlie/id1513134354

Exdonkeylover · 01/01/2022 15:27

Have to say he's lying. Well and truly. For starters a glaring issue is that it's usually a minimim of a year to sign off, eg giving one years notice. Anyone who talks about rhe forces will usually spend 90% of their time moaning and 10% laughing about stupid things they've done drinking. There's a Facebook group called the Walter Mitty hunters and they still have fingers in pies and can get records checked and hate love rats. Ask his army number if he hesitates, he's lying.

NotaCoolMum · 01/01/2022 16:12

Oh dear God- your poor friend and poor you having to sit and watch this unfold. 💐💐

NOTANUM · 01/01/2022 16:20

Is it possible your friend is suffering from delusions? It strikes me as strange that no-one has seen them together, him entering her home, photos, ring doorbell footage..

She may be more unwell than you think and actually is caught up in an alternative made-up world, particularly if vulnerable.

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