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I’m 99% sure my friend’s boyfriend isn’t what he seems

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Maybeknights · 14/12/2021 20:34

Ok this is a bit of a saga but I’m constantly worrying about her and don’t know what to do. Here goes…

My friend met someone online a few years ago and they ‘dated’ for about 6 months. By dated I mean he popped over to her flat whenever he could. They never actually went out together and nobody met him. He is apparently in the army and everything he does is very secretive, he can’t take any time off so those stolen moments were all they could have. After a while my friend found this too difficult so threatened to break it off and he told her he would leave the army. He wrote his resignation letter and showed her before submitting it. Next thing she bumped into him in public at a busy tube station and went to kiss him and he pushed her away and acted like he didn’t know her… when she text to ask wtf he said his feeling had changed and that was that!!! She was REALLY sad. He never contacted her again.

Fast forward 3-4 years and she says that she’s dating him again. After 4 weeks they have said they love one another and are talking about buying a house together. My friend owns her own flat but is currently job searching after bing made redundant earlier this year. I asked her how he explained what happened last time and she was in total denial - said it never happened. He was in a bad place, ptsd, etc and wasn’t in the right space for a relationship so it ended. Now he’s all good and they’ve picked up like they were never apart…

I asked what had changed in terms of his availability and she said nothing has, but now since being alone in covid lockdown she’s willing to put up with it rather than not be with him. He’s still coming over at night a few times a week and they still haven’t been anywhere together and nobody had met him still! He has said he’ll go to her parents for Christmas Day but I 100% guarantee some kind of emergency will mean that he can’t!

On to the red flags:

  • The regiment he says he’s part of isn’t based where he says he’s based.
  • the stories he tells about what he’s been doing are totally out of line with his supposed army job. The things he’s supposedly doing are like scenes from James Bond movies and would be the responsibility of anti terror police, MI5, interpol etc. so far fetched
  • I asked if she’d be going to any Christmas balls or dinners on his arm and she said there wouldn’t be any. My friends with army husbands are going to lots of different functions
  • she said his family live up north and he’s not close to them but he has a sister who lives nearby with her two kids who he sees a lot (I’m sure this is cover for his wife and kids incase my friend sees him out with them!)
  • he can’t book any time off work
  • he smothers her with compliments and platitudes and I think he’s just making her drop her guard completely so she’ll do anything he says
  • he won’t have his photo taken. She doesn’t have a single photo of him apart from the one from his original dating profile

I’m really worried if I ask too many questions or act too suspicious she’ll start keeping secrets from me but I feel like I need to keep a close eye on this! What would you do? I also think she’s so deeply in love that if I ever speak against him it would deeply threaten our friendship. When she told me about being back with him she was almost manic. It didn’t sound like her speaking at all. It had only be 4 weeks and she started talking about weddings and things.

During lockdown she was suffering from really bad anxiety and depression and was incredibly lonely. I really fear he could break her heart and push her over the edge. She’s even said now that she doesn’t want to look for a new job or will look for something exclusively from home so she can be around when he’s available…

Am I just be super suspicious? And what would you do?!

OP posts:
lhirault · 01/01/2022 16:46

An ex of mine did something like this - married with kids, and a fiancée on the side (thankfully long after I'd dumped him for being an unreliable fantasist). He was in the forces when I knew him, but then supposedly got a job on the rigs - handy for stretches off shore when he was spending time with the OW in a house that had his name on the deeds despite him not contributing to any deposit or mortgage payment. It all unraveled when fiancée's brother bumped into him at a big sporting event when he was supposed to be off shore. From what I hear he's now on his third marriage and I'd bet my house that he still plays the same games.
Unfortunately the poor women involved sometimes deny the evidence of their own eyes until they're either ghosted or bankrupted. The red flags with this one are mile high though.

Georgeskitchen · 01/01/2022 17:01

He sounds married.
Tell her to ask him his army number

LadyEloise1 · 01/01/2022 17:11

Was he with her on New Years Eve or was there another crisis where he had to step in and save the world ?

ProfessionalWeirdo · 01/01/2022 18:21

@LadyEloise1

Was he with her on New Years Eve or was there another crisis where he had to step in and save the world ?
I'm wondering about that too. The poor woman.
Mumof3confused · 02/01/2022 00:20

Is he out of isolation yet Hmm

Ohmycron · 02/01/2022 00:44

I knew if a case of bigamy where the sister in law of the second marriage found out through Facebook

ShyAmy333 · 02/01/2022 03:07

He's fake. She needs to cut him off

ProfessionalWeirdo · 02/01/2022 17:00

@ShyAmy333

He's fake. She needs to cut him off
... preferably without an anaesthetic.
ShyAmy333 · 03/01/2022 08:57

Guys like this are all too common. I think they feel they can just pull the wool over our eyes. I transitioned last year and have started dating again. Met a lovely guy, he ticked all the right boxes and we had a nice first date walk in the park, then a nice meal. He was telling me about his life how he'd never met the right girl etc.
I went to take a pic of us together and he hit the roof, didn't want his pic taken, mustn't have it online, but wouldn't say why. I ended it then as he was clearly hiding something

Milomonster · 03/01/2022 09:08

Gosh this is desperately sad. You are a wonderful friend for the patience and concern you have shown her.

Whilst not similar, there are parallels with the Sweet Bobby podcast. Worth a listen.

WorkHardPlayHard1 · 12/01/2022 20:41

@TonyThreePies

When you said they met online do you mean online dating? If you know the dating site set up a fake profile and try find him. It's likely your friend is not the only one he's hooking up with, you could message him and get him to engage in chat with you to suss him out? I mean, he won't tell you he's married obviously but you will at least know that he's a shyster!
Yes like the idea of trying to blow his cover and baiting him as proof! Don't forget to screenshot xxWink
LadyEloise1 · 14/01/2022 08:03

Have the scales fallen from her eyes yet @Maybeknights ?

Maybeknights · 14/01/2022 08:10

Thanks to those of you who have shown concern and who have asked for an update.

The situation still chugs along I’m afraid :( They are seeing less of each other now because apparently the time he was in quarantine with covid is being treated as time off so he’s being worked to the bone. He went to hers for an hour last week where they did one thing (you can guess) and then he had to leave straight away to go to a meeting with his boss. This was an hour at like 9am…

I asked if he could book a day off to spend with her as she’s feeling a bit down about eating alone every night and cooking for herself every day but I’m told he can’t book any days off now because he took a day off in December to go to see his family.

I’ve spoken to a friends husband who is in the army and he said that lots of things I hadn’t even thought of stink to him. He concludes the guy might be a soldier but is a complete fantasist and liar but most probably isn’t in the army at all. Shock horror.

She’s coming to stay with us next weekend so I’ll see what she says. She can’t be happy with the situation as it is. It seems like the honeymoon period is almost over and all the effort he was putting in at the start has worn off and he’s just ‘busy working’ a lot of the time.

Let’s see what happens.

OP posts:
Grrrpredictivetex · 14/01/2022 11:44

@Maybeknights

Thanks to those of you who have shown concern and who have asked for an update.

The situation still chugs along I’m afraid :( They are seeing less of each other now because apparently the time he was in quarantine with covid is being treated as time off so he’s being worked to the bone. He went to hers for an hour last week where they did one thing (you can guess) and then he had to leave straight away to go to a meeting with his boss. This was an hour at like 9am…

I asked if he could book a day off to spend with her as she’s feeling a bit down about eating alone every night and cooking for herself every day but I’m told he can’t book any days off now because he took a day off in December to go to see his family.

I’ve spoken to a friends husband who is in the army and he said that lots of things I hadn’t even thought of stink to him. He concludes the guy might be a soldier but is a complete fantasist and liar but most probably isn’t in the army at all. Shock horror.

She’s coming to stay with us next weekend so I’ll see what she says. She can’t be happy with the situation as it is. It seems like the honeymoon period is almost over and all the effort he was putting in at the start has worn off and he’s just ‘busy working’ a lot of the time.

Let’s see what happens.

Can you instigate a meet-up with your friend and husband and let them chat?
EekGoesTheBaby · 14/01/2022 21:56

Thanks for the update, OP. If she doesn't accept that he's a fake, maybe at least it would fizzle out on its own for other reasons. She deserves so much better.

PunishmentSnart · 15/01/2022 10:25

How old is your friend OP?

I can’t get my head around the fact that any sane person would believe him Shock

Tulipsandviolets · 16/01/2022 08:59

He sound's shifty definitely married

Asvan · 18/01/2022 21:56

Hi OP,

I saw this article on BBC News today and thought of your friend.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60045286

It's really sad and shocking how these type of men prey on women.

LadyEloise1 · 19/01/2022 08:30

It's pretty shocking too that he only got a suspended sentence. Sad

karlakourt · 23/01/2022 21:48

So sorry for your friend. I guess she desperately wants him to be true

Watsonville · 20/03/2022 19:34

Is there any update Op?

BluebellsareBlue · 04/04/2022 18:01

Hi OP, how are things with your friend?

SmokyLittleBeefBath · 15/04/2022 06:52

Hi OP is there any update to this thread? I hope your friend is ok Flowers

Herejustforthisone · 15/04/2022 07:43

Oh wow. This is awful. He’s married, using her for sex and definitely not in the army. What an absolute bag if shit he is.

@Maybeknights, I truly hope your friend is free of him by now and doing ok.

oakleaffy · 15/04/2022 09:20

Oh @Maybeknights
He sounds like a complete Walter Mitty fantasist.

Years ago, there was a bloke we knew who had said he had been a ''Mercenary'' and then the SAS {or vice versa}.

It was obviously a bluff, in retrospect.

Sounds like your friend has met a married man.

I didn't think one could just ''Resign'' from the Army, either ?

Sincerely hope your friend doesn't lose money to this man...She'd be very unwise to buy a house with him.

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