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I’m 99% sure my friend’s boyfriend isn’t what he seems

548 replies

Maybeknights · 14/12/2021 20:34

Ok this is a bit of a saga but I’m constantly worrying about her and don’t know what to do. Here goes…

My friend met someone online a few years ago and they ‘dated’ for about 6 months. By dated I mean he popped over to her flat whenever he could. They never actually went out together and nobody met him. He is apparently in the army and everything he does is very secretive, he can’t take any time off so those stolen moments were all they could have. After a while my friend found this too difficult so threatened to break it off and he told her he would leave the army. He wrote his resignation letter and showed her before submitting it. Next thing she bumped into him in public at a busy tube station and went to kiss him and he pushed her away and acted like he didn’t know her… when she text to ask wtf he said his feeling had changed and that was that!!! She was REALLY sad. He never contacted her again.

Fast forward 3-4 years and she says that she’s dating him again. After 4 weeks they have said they love one another and are talking about buying a house together. My friend owns her own flat but is currently job searching after bing made redundant earlier this year. I asked her how he explained what happened last time and she was in total denial - said it never happened. He was in a bad place, ptsd, etc and wasn’t in the right space for a relationship so it ended. Now he’s all good and they’ve picked up like they were never apart…

I asked what had changed in terms of his availability and she said nothing has, but now since being alone in covid lockdown she’s willing to put up with it rather than not be with him. He’s still coming over at night a few times a week and they still haven’t been anywhere together and nobody had met him still! He has said he’ll go to her parents for Christmas Day but I 100% guarantee some kind of emergency will mean that he can’t!

On to the red flags:

  • The regiment he says he’s part of isn’t based where he says he’s based.
  • the stories he tells about what he’s been doing are totally out of line with his supposed army job. The things he’s supposedly doing are like scenes from James Bond movies and would be the responsibility of anti terror police, MI5, interpol etc. so far fetched
  • I asked if she’d be going to any Christmas balls or dinners on his arm and she said there wouldn’t be any. My friends with army husbands are going to lots of different functions
  • she said his family live up north and he’s not close to them but he has a sister who lives nearby with her two kids who he sees a lot (I’m sure this is cover for his wife and kids incase my friend sees him out with them!)
  • he can’t book any time off work
  • he smothers her with compliments and platitudes and I think he’s just making her drop her guard completely so she’ll do anything he says
  • he won’t have his photo taken. She doesn’t have a single photo of him apart from the one from his original dating profile

I’m really worried if I ask too many questions or act too suspicious she’ll start keeping secrets from me but I feel like I need to keep a close eye on this! What would you do? I also think she’s so deeply in love that if I ever speak against him it would deeply threaten our friendship. When she told me about being back with him she was almost manic. It didn’t sound like her speaking at all. It had only be 4 weeks and she started talking about weddings and things.

During lockdown she was suffering from really bad anxiety and depression and was incredibly lonely. I really fear he could break her heart and push her over the edge. She’s even said now that she doesn’t want to look for a new job or will look for something exclusively from home so she can be around when he’s available…

Am I just be super suspicious? And what would you do?!

OP posts:
Fernticket · 16/12/2021 17:39

Definitely married.

Watchamocauli · 16/12/2021 17:41

Get his dating profile pic and do a google image search something should definitely come up at least a real name.

T2001 · 16/12/2021 17:44

Find out the sisters address, see if you can accidently bump into her? That could be y IN?

T2001 · 16/12/2021 17:47

If you have a picure? You can use Google picture search. The search will bring up all the places the pic been posted.

CallmeBadJanet · 16/12/2021 17:59

Con artist with a wife nearby. Support your friends self esteem to improve and watch for any changes in their relationship around money. Get other friends to support what you're saying if it all goes south

EmmaWoodhousestreehouse · 16/12/2021 18:03

He’s clearly married or with someone else and leading some kind of double life.

If he was part of some secretive regiment the last thing he would do is tell stories about it or even talk about it.

BooRadleyIsFree · 16/12/2021 18:07

Can you keep us updated after you've seen her at the weekend please? It's such an awful situation to be in for you, not for her at the moment but eventually it will be.

wolfmom · 16/12/2021 18:08

Sounds like my ex husband. Hope your friend will see through him sooner rather than later

Dontknowwhattodo99 · 16/12/2021 18:10

Sounds very dodgy! In terms of protecting her from any risks he might present from a domestic abuse or violence perspective you could submit a request via the police and if there’s anything dodgy in his past that might put your friend at risk the police will share this with her. This link is the met police version but it’s law all over the uk (can search Claire’s law) x

www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/daa/domestic-abuse/alpha2/request-information-under-clares-law/

Hotair1234 · 16/12/2021 18:10

Oh god, I WAS your friend. Yep, married. 100%. Please try and help her see but you will need evidence. Totally indisputable evidence or she’ll make excuses even to herself. Feel for you but you’re a good friend! Hang in 🤞🏻🙏🏻

NeverEndingFireworks · 16/12/2021 18:10

A relative of mine married one of these characters.

When he was hospitalised with a heart attack, and she rushed to his bedside, she found the other wife already there. My relative was the second, not legal, wife as he was still married to the first and with her when he was "away" with his regiment. Total fantasist.

We'd all thought he was a bit of an exaggerator and up himself - but no idea he could be a bigamist.

luckily she later met and married an accountant - who is a genuinely lovely, gentle, man and she's been very happy with him.

Owl55 · 16/12/2021 18:15

Does he drive ? Can you get a car reg?

Sydendad · 16/12/2021 18:15

You can say with 99.99% certainty that he is a cheating bastard. He has a wife most likely and highly likely kids. Having worked for a foreign armed forces intelligence unit, I know operatives are not acting in any James bond way. Not so mousy secretive. They lead normal lives and indeed have functions they take partners to. They just can't talk about what they do on a daily basis. This behaviour you are describing is typical of cheaters with wife's and kids, people who lead a second life.

blueshoes · 16/12/2021 18:17

Married and most certainly a liar

AnnieSnap · 16/12/2021 18:21

Sounds like he’s married and just popping to hers for a quick shag 😔

TheElectricBoogaloo · 16/12/2021 18:23

Oh OP! I can tell you I was the wife of such a fantasist. When the OW and I found out about each other we decided to meet to unpick our lives. The stories he told her were incredible…all top secret missions, special phones, not being available except at certain times, no leave ever being available…exactly what you’re describing. He WAS in the Army but I can assure you there was nothing James Bond about his job at all. I actually felt sorry for the young girl, she’d clearly been taken in and had swallowed every one of his lies, line, hook and sinker.
All you can do is be there for your friend when it inevitably unravels. And thanks for being such a good friend to her, I could have done with someone like you.

ChelleMum85 · 16/12/2021 18:25

I would be tempted to follow him when he leaves your friends and go knock on the door of where he lives.

Has she ever been to his house and does she know his address? Ask her that. If she says no, then tell her to stop being so naive and in denial, to stop being weak and letting him walk all over her vulnerable state.

MummyMayo1988 · 16/12/2021 18:31

Seems like your friend is in total denial that there is anything wrong with this bloke.
You are obviously a very good friend and care about her a lot. Honestly though; I don't think you can do anything. If you upset her; you risk pushing her away from you and straight to him. Things could escalate quickly between them if she does not have your support.
If I were you; I would be as close to her as possible and not do anything to cause a rift. If he is a con artist or married or (God forbid) dangerous; she will need you.
Maybe she will come to her senses on her own and you'll both laugh about it.

takenforgrantednana · 16/12/2021 18:32

@Maybeknights

Ok this is a bit of a saga but I’m constantly worrying about her and don’t know what to do. Here goes…

My friend met someone online a few years ago and they ‘dated’ for about 6 months. By dated I mean he popped over to her flat whenever he could. They never actually went out together and nobody met him. He is apparently in the army and everything he does is very secretive, he can’t take any time off so those stolen moments were all they could have. After a while my friend found this too difficult so threatened to break it off and he told her he would leave the army. He wrote his resignation letter and showed her before submitting it. Next thing she bumped into him in public at a busy tube station and went to kiss him and he pushed her away and acted like he didn’t know her… when she text to ask wtf he said his feeling had changed and that was that!!! She was REALLY sad. He never contacted her again.

Fast forward 3-4 years and she says that she’s dating him again. After 4 weeks they have said they love one another and are talking about buying a house together. My friend owns her own flat but is currently job searching after bing made redundant earlier this year. I asked her how he explained what happened last time and she was in total denial - said it never happened. He was in a bad place, ptsd, etc and wasn’t in the right space for a relationship so it ended. Now he’s all good and they’ve picked up like they were never apart…

I asked what had changed in terms of his availability and she said nothing has, but now since being alone in covid lockdown she’s willing to put up with it rather than not be with him. He’s still coming over at night a few times a week and they still haven’t been anywhere together and nobody had met him still! He has said he’ll go to her parents for Christmas Day but I 100% guarantee some kind of emergency will mean that he can’t!

On to the red flags:

  • The regiment he says he’s part of isn’t based where he says he’s based.
  • the stories he tells about what he’s been doing are totally out of line with his supposed army job. The things he’s supposedly doing are like scenes from James Bond movies and would be the responsibility of anti terror police, MI5, interpol etc. so far fetched
  • I asked if she’d be going to any Christmas balls or dinners on his arm and she said there wouldn’t be any. My friends with army husbands are going to lots of different functions
  • she said his family live up north and he’s not close to them but he has a sister who lives nearby with her two kids who he sees a lot (I’m sure this is cover for his wife and kids incase my friend sees him out with them!)
  • he can’t book any time off work
  • he smothers her with compliments and platitudes and I think he’s just making her drop her guard completely so she’ll do anything he says
  • he won’t have his photo taken. She doesn’t have a single photo of him apart from the one from his original dating profile

I’m really worried if I ask too many questions or act too suspicious she’ll start keeping secrets from me but I feel like I need to keep a close eye on this! What would you do? I also think she’s so deeply in love that if I ever speak against him it would deeply threaten our friendship. When she told me about being back with him she was almost manic. It didn’t sound like her speaking at all. It had only be 4 weeks and she started talking about weddings and things.

During lockdown she was suffering from really bad anxiety and depression and was incredibly lonely. I really fear he could break her heart and push her over the edge. She’s even said now that she doesn’t want to look for a new job or will look for something exclusively from home so she can be around when he’s available…

Am I just be super suspicious? And what would you do?!

this screams WIFE AND KIDS get your friend to see sense and gods sake dont buy a house with him as she will never see any money
Maybeknights · 16/12/2021 18:33

She’s now pulled out of our meet up this weekend for covid reasons and to protect t her family which I totally understand so I won’t read anything into that. Just a shame I probably won’t see her until the new year now… if there are any developments I will post

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Feeasco · 16/12/2021 18:33

Sounds full of red flags.
When he next visits het a P.I. to follow him home. Seriously sounds doggy- am surprised she is so naive.

passthepesto · 16/12/2021 18:36

If you still have the phone number from when you were travelling, add it as a contact, open a new watsapp message to him and then click the profile. Use that picture then to do a reverse image search.... fingers crossed it's the same one as his linkedin profile for his job at tie rack....

Romney981 · 16/12/2021 18:45

Are you sure that your friend isn't the one fibbing? Does he even exist?

CactusFlowers · 16/12/2021 18:55

He’s definitely married. Dodgy bloke!

Sudoku88 · 16/12/2021 18:57

This guy has another partner and kids. He is living a double life and your friend is his bit on the side. He is full of shite. It is all going to end in tears. She needs to get rid promptly, but she won’t.