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Wife and male thread. Not sure about it

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Enginesear · 01/12/2021 20:55

I have a situation that could really do with some level headed mumsnet wisdom please, before I try and navigate it, because I just don’t know if I have genuine cause for concern, or am just overthinking and being paranoid.

To set the scene. DW and I married for 10 years, with 2 primary school age children. We’ve always had a rock solid relationship with no issues.

We both have a shared interest/hobby, which she has gradually got into, as have the kids, and in recent years she has become the greater enthusiast. Through this she’s made a few new friends, male and female. but this is about one male friend in particular, let’s call him Steve.
DW has struck up a close friendship with Steve. I’ve had no problem with this up til now - she has lots of male friends. I’ve met Steve a couple of times and he seemed amiable and decent.

Steve is single and lives alone elsewhere in the country, but attends most of the events for this interest which happen in our area. My DW, a couple of years back started showing an interest in attending occasional events elsewhere in the country, and stays overnight at Steve’s on those occasions. Again I’ve had no problem with this, trust has never been an issue, and a I’ve never felt any reason to object.

However, recently a few red flags have started waving, that make me worry that there’s more to this friendship, like:

-These overnights at Steve’s have become more frequent, and have become full weekends rather than overnight stays. Two weekends on the trot now planned for after Christmas. This causes a bit of disruption to the kids hobbies/clubs, which I don’t mind now and then, but these weekends away now seem a greater priority to her than the kids clubs, time together as a couple, or anything else that could otherwise have been planned.

-She talks about him a lot. I don’t think she realises how much.

-They text each other a lot. I’m not privy to the contents of these conversations and have never considered it any of my business.

-There’s an event over the Christmas holiday that we’d talked about going to as a family. She seems to be steering me away from going though, insisting that youngest DC won’t want to go (youngest DC has told me he does want to go), which is weird.

There are other subtle little things but these are the main things bothering me.

I feel awful about it because I don’t want to poison the well by saying I’ve got an issue with it, or make her feel like she can’t be friends with who she wants, especially if it turns out that it’s all innocent. On the other hand their friendship is, at the very least, taking up enough space and time to be detrimental to family life. Not sure how I tackle this without implying some sort of impropriety on her part. Any advice, suggestions, head wobbling much appreciated.

OP posts:
CloudyStorms · 01/12/2021 20:58

On the other hand their friendship is, at the very least, taking up enough space and time to be detrimental to family life approach it from this angle? That she's not spending enough time with the family?

Mooncats · 01/12/2021 21:00

Too many red flags to ignore , prioritising him over the children is plain selfish and she needs a frank conversation . I'd be asking her where she thinks this is going with him .

RagzReturnsRebooted · 01/12/2021 21:00

I'm sorry your wife is sleeping with Steve.

AnyFucker · 01/12/2021 21:00

Not sure how I tackle this without implying some sort of impropriety on her part

There is much more than implication that she is up to no good here

KintsugiForever · 01/12/2021 21:01

If it were a female friend, how different would you feel? If the time spent away from you and your children would still be an issue, then as pp said, use that as the starting point of the discussion.

CloudyStorms · 01/12/2021 21:01

Why aren't you included on these hobby weekends away? Your wife is sus sorry.

MrMrsJones · 01/12/2021 21:01

As the women of mumsnet would say, if you were a women, she has had her head turned I would have a look at her phone

LoveComesQuickly · 01/12/2021 21:02

I would not be happy with this OP.

gamerchick · 01/12/2021 21:03

Yeah I'd poke that particular hornets nest OP. It's pretty obvious what's going on.

SnugKnights · 01/12/2021 21:04

@RagzReturnsRebooted

I'm sorry your wife is sleeping with Steve.
She might not be, but it certainly sounds like she wants to. I’m really sorry this is happening to you and the kids OP. I think the PP’s advice to speak to her about the “friendship” taking up too much of her time as it’s impacting on family life/the kids, is the best angle to take for now.
RedRobin100 · 01/12/2021 21:04

WEEKENDS together is def a bit much..

Enginesear · 01/12/2021 21:05

@Mooncats

Too many red flags to ignore , prioritising him over the children is plain selfish and she needs a frank conversation . I'd be asking her where she thinks this is going with him .
To be honest I haven’t begrudged any of the time away up til now. She puts in a fair shift with work and the kids during the week, and deserves a bit if “me time”. The two weekends in jan I find a bit of a piss take though!
OP posts:
tarasmalatarocks · 01/12/2021 21:08

Sorry but I would be snooping her phone. Frequent Weekends away at a single blokes on her own , mentionitis - I think you have every right to be suspicious

NatriumChloride · 01/12/2021 21:10

Gosh this wouldn’t sit right with me at all. It sounds like she’s having an affair, or at least an EA. Why is she holed up at his place for entire weekends??

AnneLovesGilbert · 01/12/2021 21:12

It wouldn’t be okay if it was a female friend. She’s being very selfish.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 01/12/2021 21:14

I also think two weekends in the same month and talking about someone that often is enough justification to look at their phone

Enginesear · 01/12/2021 21:16

Thanks for the responses. It doesn’t look great does it? I’m not sure that I could bring myself to phone snoop, though admittedly it might well give some answers.

For balance, it’s not all one way traffic with the ‘me time’. I get to indulge hobbies too with the odd day out hobby-ing with friends...this doesn’t involve nights away or staying with single females though!

OP posts:
StopGo · 01/12/2021 21:18

Your wife is taking you for a mug and having an affair in plain sight.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 01/12/2021 21:18

I say that as someone who has male friends, I go out for drinks with them, to dinner etc...but whole weekends with a relatively new friend seems off to me

PermanentTemporary · 01/12/2021 21:20

The only thing is that it's all so open that nothing may have happened. Yet. It's a bit too much opportunity and proximity for comfort though.

WildStallyn · 01/12/2021 21:24

Sorry you're dealing with this. It doesn't look good. However I wouldn't snoop through her phone, not at this stage. If it is an innocent friendship you don't want to destroy the trust between you. I think you do need to be upfront with her though and say that it's crossed your mind - and that at the very least you feel she's taking too much time away from the family.

CheeseCheesePls · 01/12/2021 21:31

I have to disagree with some of the posters here. I think you need to have a look at her phone. Definitely.
Your gut is telling you that something is going on, and it is very likely something is. I snooped through my dhs phone for the same gut feeling, and found out about his cheating. The cheater won't tell you unless you find out.
If nothing is going on, great. Peace of mind. Then raise the issue of her needing to prioritise her family more.

Enginesear · 01/12/2021 21:32

@PermanentTemporary

The only thing is that it's all so open that nothing may have happened. Yet. It's a bit too much opportunity and proximity for comfort though.
This is what I hope. Would she really talk about him so openly if there was something going on?
OP posts:
Thisisworsethananticpated · 01/12/2021 21:40

Have a look at her messages
I don’t usually suggest that but these are way too many red flags 🚩
I’m sorry 😞 it’s shitty behaviour

PermanentTemporary · 01/12/2021 21:42

I've never really understood looking at someone's phone. You feel like something is wrong; well, it is, she's spending a shedload of time including overnights with one friend and you're feeling neglected. You also have suspicions it may be becoming emotional or sexual. So talk to her. Whether or not you find anything on the phone doesn't really affect any of that.

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