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Wife and male thread. Not sure about it

232 replies

Enginesear · 01/12/2021 20:55

I have a situation that could really do with some level headed mumsnet wisdom please, before I try and navigate it, because I just don’t know if I have genuine cause for concern, or am just overthinking and being paranoid.

To set the scene. DW and I married for 10 years, with 2 primary school age children. We’ve always had a rock solid relationship with no issues.

We both have a shared interest/hobby, which she has gradually got into, as have the kids, and in recent years she has become the greater enthusiast. Through this she’s made a few new friends, male and female. but this is about one male friend in particular, let’s call him Steve.
DW has struck up a close friendship with Steve. I’ve had no problem with this up til now - she has lots of male friends. I’ve met Steve a couple of times and he seemed amiable and decent.

Steve is single and lives alone elsewhere in the country, but attends most of the events for this interest which happen in our area. My DW, a couple of years back started showing an interest in attending occasional events elsewhere in the country, and stays overnight at Steve’s on those occasions. Again I’ve had no problem with this, trust has never been an issue, and a I’ve never felt any reason to object.

However, recently a few red flags have started waving, that make me worry that there’s more to this friendship, like:

-These overnights at Steve’s have become more frequent, and have become full weekends rather than overnight stays. Two weekends on the trot now planned for after Christmas. This causes a bit of disruption to the kids hobbies/clubs, which I don’t mind now and then, but these weekends away now seem a greater priority to her than the kids clubs, time together as a couple, or anything else that could otherwise have been planned.

-She talks about him a lot. I don’t think she realises how much.

-They text each other a lot. I’m not privy to the contents of these conversations and have never considered it any of my business.

-There’s an event over the Christmas holiday that we’d talked about going to as a family. She seems to be steering me away from going though, insisting that youngest DC won’t want to go (youngest DC has told me he does want to go), which is weird.

There are other subtle little things but these are the main things bothering me.

I feel awful about it because I don’t want to poison the well by saying I’ve got an issue with it, or make her feel like she can’t be friends with who she wants, especially if it turns out that it’s all innocent. On the other hand their friendship is, at the very least, taking up enough space and time to be detrimental to family life. Not sure how I tackle this without implying some sort of impropriety on her part. Any advice, suggestions, head wobbling much appreciated.

OP posts:
Forgothowmuchlhatehomeschoolin · 05/12/2021 22:38

I am very laid back but no way would l sit back on something like this op. Unless it was to gather evidence.
Sorry op you sound lovely xx

LinoVentura · 06/12/2021 00:03

OP said it was solid, which implies nothing awry on that front.

I've looked at all the OP's posts (or at least I clicked on See all) and cannot see any reference, good or bad, to their sex life.

notapizzaeater · 06/12/2021 00:09

I really hope he got some answers, the not knowing can tear you apart.

TossaCointoYerWitcha · 06/12/2021 00:14

@LinoVentura

OP said it was solid, which implies nothing awry on that front.

I've looked at all the OP's posts (or at least I clicked on See all) and cannot see any reference, good or bad, to their sex life.

Honestly, Lino. If I had a crap sex life the last thing I'd be saying is I've, to quote, "a rock solid relationship with no issues"

What are you trying to insinuate?

bluebell34567 · 06/12/2021 11:33

well op is not here.
i think he doesnt want to talk about it any further.

Nedclarity · 06/12/2021 12:38

I’m hoping that no news is good news.

IwishICouldTurnBackTime · 06/12/2021 13:41

@bluebell34567

well op is not here. i think he doesnt want to talk about it any further.
I think we need to give him time. I know he asked for opinions on his problem, but I imagine his head was whirling with all the replies he got and may need to take a step back and digest it all.

Hoping you're ok OP.

HaggisBurger · 06/12/2021 22:26

Hope all is ok with you @Enginesear

colouringindoors · 06/12/2021 22:57

I’m hoping that no news is good news.

I doubt it.

Monalotmoore · 06/12/2021 23:06

I think she's at Steve's.

Shoemadlady · 06/12/2021 23:25

Whether she's having an affair or not is a bit irrelevant. She's putting this random chap before you and her children and not taking any of your feelings or those of your kids into consideration.
You need to be brave and tackle her. Be prepared for an answer you don't want though

AusFrosty · 07/12/2021 07:16

I wonder if he showed his wife this post ?

Squeezyhug · 07/12/2021 09:15

OP asked us for our thoughts and we gave it.
He then told us what he was going to do... have a chat with her.

He’s not obliged to continually give us updates.

bluebell34567 · 07/12/2021 11:39

@Squeezyhug

OP asked us for our thoughts and we gave it. He then told us what he was going to do... have a chat with her.

He’s not obliged to continually give us updates.

not 'continually', but i would like to know for example; if my thoughts were right. it would be another experience to know what the outcome is/was.
AdventStar · 07/12/2021 12:43

@bluebell34567

He owes us literally nothing. This is his life, not entertainment for us or something for us to gain experience from.

beastlyslumber · 07/12/2021 13:09

I've never known a thread where people are so needy for updates. Let him be!

Justilou1 · 08/12/2021 10:48

Also, do we know that the op even IS a male? I was fairly sure that we have been discussing a same-sex couple all along.

ravenmum · 08/12/2021 14:05

What difference would it make if it was a woman? But if it was a woman she'd probably have corrected some of the assumptions that she was a man.

HaggisBurger · 08/12/2021 14:09

And there might have been some comment by OP about her wife and a bloke called Steve (certainly if she was gay it would be a lot more understandable that staying at Steves was ok …)

Justilou1 · 09/12/2021 04:25

@ravenmum - no difference at all, except that the OP may be offended by being referred to as a bloke if she’s not. For reference, one of my gay friend’s wife repeatedly justifies cheating on her because it’s only with men. The fact that she nurtures romantic relationships with them also takes it a lot further than her usual explanation which basically amounts to “Whoops! I fell over and landed on a penis…. Who put that there, I wonder???” The fallout for their kids is as huge as any couple experiencing cheating and (inevitable) breakups.

beastlyslumber · 09/12/2021 09:56

Finally worked out what this thread is reminding me of!

crestar · 09/12/2021 19:33

Unfortunately, it would seem very likely that she has been enjoying plenty of cock from Steve.

I sincerely hope i'm wrong.

HeyupitsChristmas · 09/12/2021 20:11

[quote AdventStar]@bluebell34567

He owes us literally nothing. This is his life, not entertainment for us or something for us to gain experience from.[/quote]
Absolutely.

We have no right to know the outcome. If the OP doesn't update that's their perogative.

BoredOfSamphire · 10/12/2021 08:42

FWIW, I'm pretty sure this is a heterosexual couple. From one of OP's posts:

I get to indulge hobbies too with the odd day out hobby-ing with friends...this doesn’t involve nights away or staying with single females though!

Palmfrond · 10/12/2021 13:19

If a friend of mine told me this story id tell him he’d gone completely out of his mind.
If you leave two breeding age animals of the opposite sex alone for long enough, they will fuck. Or at least one of them will try. And “long enough” doesn’t need to be that long.
Trust is important but I wouldn’t even trust myself repeatedly sleeping over at a single woman’s house, and I’m a bit of a prude.
A cautionary tale if ever I heard one.