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Just fucked up a really nice new relationship by overreacting

208 replies

Sattherelikealemon · 09/11/2021 22:28

Sorry, long.

Gah. I met a nice guy not my usual type but we had real chemistry and interest and he was lovely. We dated for a few months but I have fucked it by being messed up now its over.

He's in a position of power/ responsibility over young adults. Some young women (very early 20s) sent him a photo for which my initial reaction was that it was inappropriate for him to be receiving given his position. He sent it to me with a joke about how it wasn't very appropriate in terms of their relationship.

It was not provocative, in itself, but I would just have never expected to send such a picture in their position or someone in his to be so blase about receiving it. For instance, I would not have sent it to my male boss.

Looking at the photo calmly, knowing the context, it is on the side of acceptable but i would say still not great for a man to be getting on his phone from young women he has authority over. Anyway, I just found it strange that he was receiving this sort of thing from the people he works with and this confusion triggered me, tbh.

I have experienced a lot of sexual assault and rapes over the years, and have a lot of issues with boundaries. I had a predatory teacher as a teenager living away from family. He didn't assault me but caused me a lot of problems when I didn't react to his advances.

Anyway, I mulled over this photo for a couple of days, ended up getting more upset, and eventually overreacted big time, ending the relationship by text and saying in short that I didn't think it was ok, him receiving that sort of photo from young people at work. It wasn't a personal attack, or a rant but it was short and quite strongly worded (not abusive, sweary or anything).

He went straight on the defensive and was very upset and angry, saying I was overreacting and saying he had nothing to explain. He provided more context meaning it wasn't so bad, but he hadn't told me this at the time.

There was a short back and forth, none of it very constructive or seeing the other's POV. I think he must have been shocked i ended it abruptly as we got on so well. I tried to call before bed to put things straight.

I slept on this, realised quickly that I had approached it all wrong and messaged to apologise. He said how upset he was at having his professionalism brought into question and how he didn't want us to continue. He again said i had overreacted massively.

I only did so because I genuinely felt at the time that the photo, with the lack of any context, and his comment, breached boundaries and that really upset me and I didn't know how to handle it. It was also only a couple of days after we had sex for the first time and he showed me this picture that was a bit questionable. I felt really vulnerable and as though I didn't know what type of person he was. I didn't know really why he was showing me it.

He has now shown the photo to his manager, who knows the context, and they okayed it, so it wasn't anything terrible.

I've had some therapy previously but my circumstances have changed and I can't really afford more. Rape crisis have put me to the end of their list as I have moved. How do I stop myself ruining any more relationships and upsetting someone else? I honestly have so much love to give but have so many problems with boundaries. I either feel I have to enforce one and go too far, like this, or I don't at all and find myself in situations like being sexually assaulted again by dates because I haven't reacted to red flags, or less serious but not very nice behaviour.

I feel like this time, I avoided talking about it more neutrally because I didnt think that I had any right enforcing a boundary but got more upset about it as time went on, and sent a message when feeling really emotional.

I am such an idiot and now a horrible person as well. I feel dreadful for upsetting this guy.

Any ideas what I can do to sort myself out? would anyone suggest apologising again or explaining my issues- not to try and get him back as I realise that has gone, but for the upset?

OP posts:
billy1966 · 09/11/2021 23:07

Completely agree with above.

Well done OP.

Your instincts are bang on.

He's sleazy.

Completely inappropriate.

I don't believe he checked with his boss.

If you think it's appropriate, report him.

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 09/11/2021 23:07

Completely agree with the others. He was testing you and this is a red flag. Your initial reaction was completely right and you need to stop doubting yourself.

user6367377 · 09/11/2021 23:08

Another one who thinks this was dodgy OP, he shouldn’t be passing on pictures of young persons under his care

Littlebee90 · 09/11/2021 23:12

It made you uncomfortable, listen to yourself and stop doubting yourself. You are dating so you need to see if he is a fit for you too, not just you showcasing yourself to him. It made you uncomfortable and it’s a red flag for you. Well done, next!
Don’t be upset, move on. You don’t want someone who has young women texting him all the time and him playing it off as you don’t know the context or we are just friends or I can’t help that she texts me…ick

Greenmarmalade · 09/11/2021 23:12

Why did they even have his number? Boundaries are clearly a problem.

You mulled it over- you took your time. Trust your judgement.

I have sound psychotherapy to be really life-changing in sorting through my thoughts abc experiences. It might help you to become more sure of yourself.

Sakurami · 09/11/2021 23:13

Agree with others saying it was weird that he showed you. What kind of picture was it and in what context? I can't imagine sending my pic to anyone unless it is for a specific reason. Certainly not a male colleague or boss. It isn't normal behaviour and would make me think that his communication with her maybe led her to think something else?

Foofer · 09/11/2021 23:13

I think you were right to react the way you did. Trust your gut

WonderfulYou · 09/11/2021 23:18

I feel like this time, I avoided talking about it more neutrally because I didnt think that I had any right enforcing a boundary but got more upset about it as time went on, and sent a message when feeling really emotional.

You already know where you went wrong. Instead of talking to him about it you let it build inside you until it burst out in a way you didn’t want it to.
Next time you can just say something like - is that appropriate to be receiving that? And then he’d have told you the backstory without being it being blown up.

Communication is definitely key.
It’s easier said than done as I’m similar to you myself.

Not sure what the PPs are talking about as you say the photo is completely innocent and even his manager agrees so I don’t think he is purposely doing anything to hurt you and if you want to salvage this relationship then I believe you can do just by being really honest and open.

madisonbridges · 09/11/2021 23:20

People are making judgements on here but the op said she has listened to the context and feels she has overreacted. None of us can judge one way or the other without knowing what the photo was and the context.

Op, I'd forget about this guy and just concentrate on yourself. He did something that made you feel uncomfortable, whether intentional or not, and has made you second guess yourself. You don't want to start off relationships like that, especially with your background, so he's not the right guy for you.

Opentooffers · 09/11/2021 23:23

Yes, you were spot on, but have allowed him to plead his case and gaslight you into believing there is nothing wrong with it. Even if the context was neutral ( debatable, doubt he showed his boss it) it's well dodgy that he delighted in showing it you.

Reminds me of someone I dated for a bit, he'd claim a day later that he got chatting to someone who clearly liked him while I nipped to the bar for drinks, or to the loo., then it would be a woman serving in the shop, or when he was on a walk Hmm. I bushed it off at the time as I'm not particularly insecure, whatever? But he was, and needed regular affermation from others, and I could so much tell that he hated it when someone clearly looked me up and down once for a change - I played it down, "was he? Hadn't noticed etc". It was a warning sign as he was, and is, a player, just needs that constant ego massage. Got wise to it pretty quick. I'd guess this guy is cut from the same cloth, definitely not to be trusted. You have done the right thing and not ruined anything as he's not worthwhile.

mumjustmum · 09/11/2021 23:27

I can't read past where he shared it/showed it to you, or anyone but his line manager for that matter.

CSJobseeker · 09/11/2021 23:32

@SnarkyBag

Why did he send it to you in the first place? To be honest I think your initial instincts were probably right.
Spot on.
MMmomDD · 09/11/2021 23:34

Whatever the photo was, OP - going straight for the nuclear solution of breaking up is really an issue here.

I presume he didn’t solicit said foto. So the only potentially questionable thing was him showing it to you.

Which I think was a regular human thing to do - as you were dating and talking about curios things that happened during the day is normal.
To me it sounded more like he got it, was a little 😳 by it, and told you. And you went postal. A total overreaction.

What did you actually want - say he’d have humoured you and thought the picture was somewhat inappropriate. Then what - get the offending female and give her a talking to? Would that have made you feel happy?

Thing is - and I understand it from a few of my friends that work with / or teach young adult people. Sometimes inappropriate things are sent by the young people. Young people sometime try to push boundaries. (One friend reported getting poetry, photos, and even an erotic drawing from his young adult students) And best strategy in those situation tends to be not to react and to ignore the correspondence.

As to what you can do. You clearly need to do more of some sort of healing. And on trying to control your emotional reactions. Try to not make big decisions without taking a break and reflecting.

DickeryDock · 09/11/2021 23:34

Trust your instincts they are there to keep you safe. Please don’t doubt yourself.

DontBeADodo · 09/11/2021 23:35

Hope you are ok now. Always trust your gut ❤️

Skysblue · 09/11/2021 23:35

Young woman sends photo of herself to a senior man she works for?

That is sleazy and inappropriate. Right there. Whatever the photo was like. The point is why is she sending him photos and also why is he showing you?!

And now he’s showing his boss? I don’t care that his boss okayed it, that just means his boss is sleazy too.

Walk away with your head held high OP your instincts were spot on.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/11/2021 23:36

He sent you a picture for no good reason.

He shared a picture of a young adult over whom he has authority without her permission or knowledge.

He gaslit you.

Your instincts were BANG ON. You didn't overreact, you had an absolutely correct reaction to his behaviour.

You've got rid of a wanker.

Don't be sad, be proud!!!

SunflowerTed · 09/11/2021 23:36

It’s a shame you feel like you overreacted and ruined things. I haven’t seen the photo or the context so you can’t comment on the guy. If you do want to make amends just send him a nice message apologizing again. If he is a decent guy he will prove it by forgiving you xx don’t be too hard in yourself

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/11/2021 23:38

@SunflowerTed

It’s a shame you feel like you overreacted and ruined things. I haven’t seen the photo or the context so you can’t comment on the guy. If you do want to make amends just send him a nice message apologizing again. If he is a decent guy he will prove it by forgiving you xx don’t be too hard in yourself
What possible good reason could he have to share a picture sent by someone he's in authority to, to his girlfriend?
nocnoc · 09/11/2021 23:39

He’s a player.
You’ve been played.
I’m not sure the woman sent him the photo.
Lucky escape

LuluJakey1 · 09/11/2021 23:40

This is what makes me think you've had a lucky escape:

He sent it to you for a reason- wanted a reaction, bit of bragging, or whatever.
His reaction to your questioning his judgement and professionalism tells you he has an ego problem.
The question remains - why are young women who he manages able to send him photos that blur boundaries? The answer is because he has not set appropriate boundaries with them.

You ate well rid and you were right to challenge him. He is lying about his boss.

AtrociousCircumstance · 09/11/2021 23:40

Well done OP, although you’re feeling shaky about your reaction now it was the right one. Your instincts were on the money - he was testing you, trying to get a response, and then he gaslit you.

None of it was ok and you called him on it. He wasn’t the ‘nice guy’ he appeared to be up until then.

Be proud of yourself and keep on trusting your instincts.

ChequerBoard · 09/11/2021 23:40

Trust your gut feelings.

They have served you well here. There is something very odd about his actions.

OnTheSafeSide · 09/11/2021 23:43

No. Just no.

  1. Professional boundaries crossed - young person sending personal photos when he is in a position of power over them - why do they have his personal number?
  1. Breach of privacy sending/sharing with you the photo at all. Unprofessional and lacking integrity.
  1. Sent you the photo to what end? - negging - dressed up as a' 'joke' but actually unbalances you/makes you feel insecure/jealous.
  1. Why would he want to joke/laugh at person in his care?

2 options imo - he is either completely thick, immature and unprofessional OR a nasty, manipulative and potentially lying pr*ck.

Either way, well done on trusting yourself.

Kuachui · 09/11/2021 23:47

i wouldnt be happy if i sent a photo of myself to say.. a colleague and he sent it to someone else..

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