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Tonight I told my husband…

195 replies

IknowwhatIneed · 01/11/2021 23:57

I want a divorce. It’s been a very long time coming and I was feeling deceitful not just saying it, while scouring Rightmove and planning my escape. He’s devastated, didn’t see it coming at all, could hardly respond to me and all his responses were about the kids, and the house and finances, not about losing me.

The fact that he didn’t see it coming speaks volumes tbh, in terms of him seeing me. I’ve been so miserable for so long, took up smoking (yes, I know), no comment or conversation. If he honestly saw me, he’d have been able to see and hear how unhappy I am.

I’m now (not) sleeping on the sofa while he’s snoring like there’s no tomorrow. I feel awful for causing so much hurt, but at peace with my decision. It’s so bloody hard this bit.

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meg70 · 04/11/2021 15:51

@19Bears

I'm all threaded out, *@meg70* !!!! I have written a ridiculous number of posts and replies, and had so much support and great advice over the past year or so. I just need to get off the merry go round at some point x
Aha. I will read and msg you!
freeatlast2021 · 04/11/2021 17:34

@Free6874368
Mine too. We told them together, because my therapist said that was the best, but my ex did not say anything the whole time, only at the very end he just jumped in with, "just so we are clear, I have nothing to do with this". A-hole Angry

Free6874368 · 04/11/2021 18:05

[quote freeatlast2021]@Free6874368
Mine too. We told them together, because my therapist said that was the best, but my ex did not say anything the whole time, only at the very end he just jumped in with, "just so we are clear, I have nothing to do with this". A-hole Angry[/quote]
Isn't it rubbish. I am sure it just confirms for you, like it did me. Why I have made the decision I have.

freeatlast2021 · 04/11/2021 18:07

@Free6874368
Exactly, he never took responsibility for any of it. Not till the last moment. Luckily, my kids are grown up and they all know how difficult he could be. I did not think they were surprised really.

1MillionDollars · 04/11/2021 18:21

@IknowwhatIneed

Oh God I don’t think I can do 10 months of this - I’ve worked out this morning that he’s hoping if he leaves it long enough we’ll just trundle on as usual, so I’m going to need to drive things which is ok but not what I hoped for.

We won’t be telling the kids until there’s a clear plan about what happens next, and I know how I want it to work, so probably just need to lay that out for him and go from there. The kids are 8 and 10, but only been with me for 4 years - the adoption makes things tricky in terms of supporting them so I want to do it as well as possible for them, not least because I’ll be doing the heavy lifting emotionally with them (as usual).

Feeling a bit fed up today but I’m out tonight which will definitely help.

. . . Get out as soon as you can. I was on sofa cushions for weeks, trying to get up in the morning to make sure everything looked normal but kids could tell and came up early sometimes.

It caused me more stress. Telling the kids was hardest thing I've ever done. Mum pretty much said nothing. I literally could have jumped on a plane to Mexico rather than telling them.

Been stressful and depressing few months because of finances but tomorrow I am moving back and can have them 50% of the time in my own place and space.

Life begins at 44 for Good luck OP. Would love to hear how you are feeling once the dust settles. Life is for living and you me have got plenty of life left in us yet.

The kids will be fine if they are loved and you can co-parent nicely.

19Bears · 04/11/2021 19:08

I really hope life does begin at 44! Well, I've got a couple of months to achieve it before I get to 45 ha ha!!

meg70 · 04/11/2021 22:25

Weirdly, I was 44 too! Ladies- OP and 19Bears- you have got this, you can do it....believe in yourself & your kids and the importance of your happiness. Msg me if you want to chat, good luck. X

ClareBlue · 05/11/2021 00:56

From your posts I don't think this will be you, but I've heard this in the last few years

She won't manage without me....surprisingly she does, especially if you leave her in peace to get on with it.

She will come back once she sees what she is missing...er no, she sees what she was missing, peace of mind and joy, and is not coming back

Nobody will want her....apart from all the men who are attracted to her new happy, positive self

Look, family, how hard done by I am....family agrees and validates a helplessness that turns into a bitterness and suddenly 20 years have gone by. But, hey, I was hard done by you know. Yes we know but maybe time to move on
Good 🤞 Luck

IknowwhatIneed · 05/11/2021 01:46

Thanks everyone, I’ve been out with my sister and told her - we had a good chat and she completely gets it, I’m feeling good about myself and excited for the future. Just need to get him out of the house….

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updownroundandround · 05/11/2021 06:22

@IknowwhatIneed

Happy to hear that you have RL support, it will make things so much easier for you and the DC.

Once you decide exactly how you want to do the split, take action. The longer things seem to 'trundle along', the harder it is to take the plunge and tell the kids.

IknowwhatIneed · 06/11/2021 23:49

I’ve told him tonight I want one or other of us to move out by the end of the month - he has lots of reasons not to do that, financial mainly but I’ve been really clear I don’t want to go into Christmas playing happy families, the uncertainty isn’t good for me, or him, or ultimately the kids. And I just don’t want to live with him any more.

I feel like a bitch, but he’d let this trundle on for months and I can’t do that.

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CJsGoldfish · 07/11/2021 01:57

I think its really sneaky to go along for ages letting the other person think everything is fine and then dropping thd divorce bombshell. I say this becsuse I know folk this has happened to. It's horrible

There are always signs but we like to ignore them. Makes it easier to completely blame the leaver.

Mulberrygirl3 · 07/11/2021 06:02

Wishing you the very best of luck OP, when you know in your heart you know. This is the right decision for you and your children. It’s great that you are in a good position mentally and financially to split. That makes such a difference. Onwards and upwards Flowers

Peace43 · 07/11/2021 07:53

I did this 3 years ago now. He wasn’t unaware of how unhappy I was but it was still a shock (to both of us really, i didn’t plan it it just escaped out of me). He moved out into our caravan immediately but came back every day to do the school run (he wasn’t working). I felt numb and in shock for a week. I told my family who were hugely relieved as they’d seen all the joy sucked out of me for years. I was financially self sufficient but I felt incredibly guilty (still do now and then).
I drove that divorce, gave him a fair settlement, helped him find a job and a flat, assumed all the guilt for the break up to our daughter (although she is far more aware nowadays as she has got older).
He never really got bitter. He never got happier either.

I did though. I am free and my life, and that of my daughter, is filled with joy. I went Xmas craft shopping with OH yesterday and he didn’t judge the money I spent or moan or huff or make me feel shit. 2 years we’ve been together and it’s still a blessed relief that he isn’t like my ex-H.

You go girl. You deserve to be happy. You dont have to lie yourself down every single time for him to rest on so he is more comfortable. You are entitled to be happy too. Just keep the end goal in mind, don’t be surprised if you have the odd day of huge sadness - it’s the sad about what should have been or could have been.

IknowwhatIneed · 07/11/2021 09:11

@Peace43 thank you, I’m going to need to drive this too and it’s very, very hard work. I’m hoping we can come out of it with some kind of friendship intact but I think that’s going to be hard going.

Just keep the end goal in mind, don’t be surprised if you have the odd day of huge sadness - it’s the sad about what should have been or could have been.

This really helped, I’ve been tearful overnight tonight I think realising how awful it is to be with someone who adores you, but has absolutely no physical attraction to you - I honestly feel heartbroken about that.

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Free6874368 · 07/11/2021 11:51

@CJsGoldfish

I think its really sneaky to go along for ages letting the other person think everything is fine and then dropping thd divorce bombshell. I say this becsuse I know folk this has happened to. It's horrible

There are always signs but we like to ignore them. Makes it easier to completely blame the leaver.

I agree, I raised lots of concerns and tried to sort our differences. I even said, if things don't change I am leaving! It was still a shock to him, he has told everyone he had now idea.
Free6874368 · 07/11/2021 11:55

@IknowwhatIneed as time goes on and you reflect on your situation. Things will become easier, it just takes time.

I am sure you will have your happy days and more tearful days. But as you have said, you have done what is right for you... you are stronger than you think. The worst bit is done.

19Bears · 08/11/2021 12:08

I'm back to see if I can find help, hope you don't mind me jumping in @IknowwhatIneed Well done to you for being firm and not letting things drag on. It must be so hard, but it has to be done Flowers

I described a bit of how things are at home, no intimacy, pretty much separate lives, sometimes he gives me the silent treatment if we have an argument, then snaps out of it as if nothing was ever said, has made our youngest dc cry while having a go at me, lazes about on the sofa on a night etc etc etc

Anyway, we went out the other night to see a band. I knew it would be awkward, and it was, the two of us standing miles apart, barely speaking. The whole of the rest of the crowd would have instantly clocked the unhappy couple, it was so obvious. Then the next night I was at my best friend's 50th birthday party and got chatted up by this bloke. Admittedly he was old and awful and slightly scary, but, you know, at least I was appreciated!! Dh didn't bat an eyelid when I got ready to go out (slightly dolled up for once) in sequin leggings and heels, might as well have been dressed in an old bin bag for all the notice he takes. I'm going off on a tangent.

What I really wanted to say was, if dh was miserable and silent all the time, I think I could work up the courage to say enough is enough. But yesterday he insisted on a family afternoon out. He even missed the football for it. The weird thing was, when we got to the place we were visiting (a cathedral - I'm totally not religious, but I love the building) they were having a special service to commemorate women who have died at the hands of abusive partners. To cut a long story short, the speaker there described how it was up to men to change, and it wasn't just physical violence, but emotional and mental abuse that can cause so much damage in relationships, and I ended up in tears, thinking that sometimes I feel like this happens to me. DH wouldn't have any clue that this might apply to him. Also, the choir was absolutely amazing and I was in bits, but I kept it to myself and we went home as if we'd just had any normal day out. Then on the evening he put Strictly on, he'd recorded it from the saturday night, I'm not bothered about it in the slightest. But he was like "oh wow, this is amazing! They'll get 10s all round! What do you think, ?!" And then, "come on then, , predict the scores for this dance!" really enthusiastic and excitedly..... As if we're playing happy couples. Bearing in mind last year he provoked a really silly argument about whether or not they were doing Halloween week in which he kept rewinding the recording of part of it several times and saying right at my face "see, , is that or is that not a Halloween costume?" over and over until our youngest (again) started crying. So this sticks in my mind whenever it's on telly, so no, I don't want to join in with 'predict the scores.' But of course I look like the bad guy as usual. I realise this sound like total gibberish, so well done if you can make out what I'm trying to say! But sometimes he does this over the top happy family thing, and the rest of the time he's back to lounging about while I get on with jobs around the house. It's as if he wants to be seen as the hero dad, getting us to go out "as a family" when most of the time it's just me and the kids doing things together, and he doesn't bother. So if I seem off with him, well, you know what I mean.

So, is he trying to prove a point here and force me into a position where I can't tell him it's him who has caused so much unhappiness in my life? It feels like he can now say to me 'look at me! I'm making all the effort here!' I feel like whenever I build up a bit of momentum, I get knocked down again. Cheerful dh is a lot harder to deal with than miserable dh. Just feeling stuck again. Sorry for the ramble. Sending Flowers to everyone wading through the mud x

femfemlicious · 08/11/2021 12:12

Its funny how women are allowed to leave a marriage when men are called all sorts of b@$tards and c£&ts for leaving when they are not happy in their marriage. Lets keep the same energy for both men and women.

IknowwhatIneed · 08/11/2021 14:13

This is my thread, to support me in my situation - I don’t need to “keep the energy” for anyone, male or female.

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pointythings · 08/11/2021 14:25

femfemlicious if I saw a post on here from a man who had tried for 15 years to get his wife to see how miserable he was, I'd absolutely be encouraging him to leave too.

freeatlast2021 · 08/11/2021 16:17

@19Bears
I am so sorry for what you are going through and I absolutely understand how you are feeling right now. Do not beat yourself up about not being able to let go and set yourself free just yet, it took me over a decade to do it and it was still very, very hard. You are on the way there, your moment will come, very, very soon. In the meantime, take care of yourself the best you can, you will need your strength, both mental as well as physical, to get yourself across to the other side. Hugs.Flowers

IknowwhatIneed · 08/11/2021 16:32

It’s tricky isn’t it @19Bears, if it was awful all the time you could easily make the decision, but life ifren isn’t like that.

My home life is ok, we rub along without any real conflict etc but I’ve had reason to stop and recognise how much of myself I need to give away to live like that. My need for closeness, intimacy, engagement, challenge in a relationship all go on the back burner. I’ve looked for intimacy in close friendships instead of in my marriage (by which I mean overly close friendship, not sex). I’ve not said things to my husband that probably needed to be said, but I knew there would be no point, because he’s just not engaged and things he should have said to me that he hasn’t. A vast chasm of disconnect which is too wide now to bridge. And I don’t want to live like that any more.

It doesn’t need to be hell to justify leaving, is it the life you want for yourself? If not, and it can’t be changed, it’s time to go.

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DivorcedAndDelighted · 08/11/2021 19:18

@IknowwhatIneed

Honestly *@mbosnz*, I’ve stayed in this for so long but have always protected my independence - I watched my mum live in an abusive marriage all her life because she didn’t have the resources to leave and I swore that would never be me. So I’ve built a career and a very scaleable business, I’ve a good, strong circle of friends that I treasure, and I’ve worked hard to be very sure about my decision to leave.

I want to be reasonable and respectful but that’s wholly dependent on him being able to meet me in that (allowing for his very human response which I’m sure will be angry at some point), I hope we can be friends down the line but if it doesn’t work out, that’s ok too.

I’ve worked so hard in every area of my life to get to this point, including on my marriage, so with clear conscience I can say i want it to be easy, but if it needs to be hard, I can do that too.

Just wanted to say you are an inspiration, and I'm saving this to show friends who need it. Flowers
goody2shooz · 08/11/2021 20:39

Oh dear lord @19Bears, that is a horrific story - you should have no doubt that you need to leave your ghastly abusive husband. He ‘insisted’ you went out and played families, he forced you to watch repeats of a clip, shouting in your face til your youngest WEPT 😱 He is monstrous and you should be planning an escape asap, and some therapy for you and your poor child. Dreadful man, no doubt about it. Time to go - trust yourself and save your poor wee one any further trauma. Good luck.