Team Ioan Gruffudd or Alice Evans?

[BabyBearRus]

I've been following the story around the breakup of Ioan and Alice. I haven't been a great fan of Alice in the past, but I do feel for her and her children right now. Who else thinks that Ioan has behaved atrociously to his family? According to his wife, he has been having an affair for a long while, and making her feel as though she was in the wrong for months.

@HermioneKipper

I feel so much for her. She’s clearly in such a bad place. And I can’t imagine the humiliation of giving up your career and best years for a man who abandons you for a new woman 20 years younger. Just horrendous.

Though I wish for her children she would stop with the social media rants, they’re going to read all that one day ☹️

But he's humiliated himself hasn't he because it's clear what a total tool he is. And the girlfriend just looks like the school speccy nerd. I don't think it will last.

@AutumnIsTheBest

Oh cmon, he spent all their savings on lawyers and now he’s living pay check to pay check and still so far away from a divorce? Cmon, you can’t believe that. You know she’s got lawyers too right, she’s not self defending, and you also know he’s paying for them as she’s not worked in years,

And her lawyers are likely doing a great job, becayse she’s in that house being paid for by him. From her food, to the clothes on her back to the home she’s In, a year down the line he’s still paying for her.

So believing that he spent all their money on lawyers is ludicrous. Did you make it up or read it someplace? 😂

Lordy, just had a quick look at her twitter feed. Unhinged definitely seems an appropriate description. Their poor kids.

If one isn't happy in a relationship one can always leave first. There is NEVER an excuse to cheat. Never.

And as far as we know, that's what Ioan did. He wasn't happy, so he told his wife he was no longer in love with her and left. Then a year later gets a new girlfriend. Maybe there is more that we don't know, but there is no evidence of that at all.

[quote AutumnIsTheBest]@bogeythefungusman, @GullyGull, @Loudestcat14. That is from Alice’s own Twitter posts on a public forum. I’m sure if they were libellous, she’d have had to take them down by now. She has said his legal team is monitoring everything she posts IIRC.[/quote]
Just because she's posted on Twitter doesn't mean he hasn't legally contested her claims as being untrue though. For all you know, she's received a notice from his lawyers to remove them but is refusing. Has any newspaper repeated them? If not, it's probably because they've already been threatened over them.

Plus, she actually shared an email he wrote to her in which he complained she was barging in on his Facetime contact with their daughter and asked that any arrangements they needed to make be done separately as they'd already agreed, and AE admitted she'd leaned over her daughter and was screaming, crying, accusing (her words). Not the 'she wandered into the frame and he put the phone down' way that you've painted it at all, which is why your post could be considered defamatory.

@Bluntness100

The thing is as she’s been a stay at home mum for over a decade, it’s highly likely she’s been living in the house at his expense for the last year and refusing to agree a divorce, so he is likely not just paying child maintenance but maintaining her whilst she publicly attacks him. Got to be Galling.

If the genders were reversed and it was a woman paying for a man whilst he attacked her constantly and then accused her of shagging around because a year after their relationship ended she started a new relationship with soneone she worked with he would be roundly attacked on here.

likely is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Nothing that you have stated is known to be true or been announced by either side.

Taking it away from their relationship, statistically it is more likely for a husband to cheat and to gaslight his wife and to try to create an impression she is crazy if she tries to bring his bad behaviour into the light. There's fascinating research actually on how men and women behave on cheating and ending relationships.

A lot of society is invested in men being able to cheat and move on whilst their wives (usually having put their careers on hold to be the primary caregivers to the detriment of their careers and earning potential) are supposed to smile sweetly and downsize. Frankly I think a lot more women should be shouting from the rooftops about how badly they have been treated.

Not on anyone’s ‘team’ and there are surely myriad things no one will ever known about the internals of another persons marriage.

BUT

I can actually understand the impulse to the scorched earth approach. Even though I think she ought to say less, I get it. I think I’m inclined to the same kind of reaction. It’s very hard to put a lid on feelings of genuine shock and hurt. She sounds like a woman in pain. I didn’t think anything much about it until I saw that picture he himself posted with that utterly sickmaking caption along the lines of ‘thanks for making me smile again’ with his new woman. What is he, fifteen? That was designed as a barb. Makes him look awful. She may be awful too but at least I can see where she’s coming from. Dumped at fifty by the person you love. It’s happened to enough people I care about to understand the total breakdown.

@ShinyHappyPoster, I think you’re missing the point. Common friends say it’s him who was mistreated. That she is abusive, and what we see can easily be a continuation of that harassment and abuse. So if that’s the truth he should be shouting it from the rooftops. Women as well as men can be abusers, and the point is we don’t know the facts. You are simply believing what she says and applying no critical thought to whether it maybe the truth or not. Believing it because she’s a woman.

All we know is the marriage ended a year ago. It was declining for a long time before that. That mutual friends say it was unhappy and she was abusive. Colleagues said they witnessed him reduced to tears following interactions with her. That he now has a new girlfriend a year later.

Past that, he’s saying nothing and she’s all over social media and changing her story regularly. We simply don’t know the truth. But I don’t think it’s wise to believe that everything she says is the truth because her “truth” changes regularly.

Shiny which research are you referring to?

I can’t believe people are buying the PR that Bianca is a “new woman”. Whom he happened to work with on a TV show when he was filming and living in Australia, before he came home and ended it with his wife? Come on now

I was replying to your post making lots of claims about the finances of their marriage and their current financial arrangements. Neither Ioan or Alice have commented on that. It seems disingenuous of you to post your assumptions as though they are facts.
Your bias is showing in your 'recap'. My entire last post was about men and women and relationships in general, using facts and statistics. You somehow read into that what I thought about them. Even though I specifically said, taking it away from them. You might want to ask yourself why you are so invested in reading statements from his 'friends', why you are so keen to repeat them here when they haven't been corroborated at all; and why you're making up facts about finances that frankly haven't been posted anywhere.
As I said, there is a lot of society invested in absolving men and blaming women despite all the research and evidence to the contrary.

@GullyGull

Shiny which research are you referring to?

You can Google it. I find posters who can't be bothered to find research or facts, don't bother to read it when it's presented to them.

Look up studies on the breakdown of relationships; statistics on men and women cheating in relationships. And the book Boundaries has more detailed studies about how men and women tend to act when relationships break down. I've worked in this area so have access to information that isn't in the public domain but those are all publicly available.

@problembottom

I can’t believe people are buying the PR that Bianca is a “new woman”. Whom he happened to work with on a TV show when he was filming and living in Australia, before he came home and ended it with his wife? Come on now

There is no pr. he has said absolutely nothing other than posting a pic and saying thanks for making me smile again. That’s it.

Plenty of people end relationships and then enter a new one with soneone else, be it a friend, colleague or acquaintance. It’s not something rare. It doesn’t mean they were at it before the marriage ended. They may have been but they might not, that’s what folks are saying.

More people need to come forward and expose her for who she truly is. Her and his family and friends. Since she took the first step of going to the tabloids, they should be heard too.
I bet then all the #TeamAlice posters will suddenly be screaming #BeKind from the rooftops and insisting nobody listen

Don't know the real story obviously, but it's obvious she's heartbroken. I think it was hugely insensitive of him to post a pic of his new squeeze on SM when she's obviously struggling so much. By all accounts, he doesn't even use SM regularly which really makes me question his motivation behind it.

Did he cheat on her? I suspect so. We've surely all seen this same story play out 100 times before. Middle age man loses interest in wife, rewrites history and tells her things have been bad for ages and he's fallen out of love with her. Insists there is no one else and leaves. Short time later 'new' woman appears on the scene. New woman is of course half his age and someone he's known for some time, but he most definitely did not get involved with her until after he was separated.:. 🙄

So I'm team Alice.

@problembottom

I can’t believe people are buying the PR that Bianca is a “new woman”. Whom he happened to work with on a TV show when he was filming and living in Australia, before he came home and ended it with his wife? Come on now

What, so every person who ends a relationship and a year later hooks up with a work colleague must have been having an affair with them beforehand?

Aria2015 Short time later? It's a year since. I agree though posting to IG was crass without doing the decent thing and telling her he was in a new relationship rather than blindside her and the kids. Then again, if he's happy and it's 12 months on, why shouldn't he?

He's had a lucky escape

I really feel for her because the same happened to me. It's scarred me deeply. I don't blame her for wanting to speak out. That is often the worst part, you've been gaslighted, suddenly you're the "crazy ex". It's horrific. I hope she finds some peace.

@TheFormidableMrsC

I really feel for her because the same happened to me. It's scarred me deeply. I don't blame her for wanting to speak out. That is often the worst part, you've been gaslighted, suddenly you're the "crazy ex". It's horrific. I hope she finds some peace.

The same?

So your husband left and then got a new girlfriend a year later and you told everyone he had been having an affair for 3 years?

Because that's all we know that's happened.

@Cheeseandlobster

I just had a look at her Instagram and this came up straight away. How dare she? Imagine if a man posted this about his wife and dd

@Bluntness100 which common friends? I’ve only seen the allegation from the OW’s mate about Alice ‘shouting and screaming’ at him down the phone because he was away so much. We don’t know if this was the pandemic incident though or if she was concerned at that point that he was staying away as she thought he was up to something.

Also I’ve just read about her apparently screaming at him (in her own words?) when he was FaceTiming their DD and from what I’ve read that was what he’d accused her of in an email which she denies.

Correct me if I’m wrong?

If she was ‘unhinged’ which I can’t see from her Twitter posts myself just a lonely, heartbroken woman using it like MN, surely Ioan would have taken steps to take over care his DC, not be thousands of miles away with his OW?

I’m disgusted that people are labelling her like that when her MH is already obviously suffering.

@autumn. Google it, it’s not our fault you’ve only seen one thing and not our job to keep you up to date 😂