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Team Ioan Gruffudd or Alice Evans?

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BabyBearRus · 30/10/2021 00:47

I've been following the story around the breakup of Ioan and Alice. I haven't been a great fan of Alice in the past, but I do feel for her and her children right now. Who else thinks that Ioan has behaved atrociously to his family? According to his wife, he has been having an affair for a long while, and making her feel as though she was in the wrong for months.

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LemonTT · 07/11/2021 09:12

@BabyBearRus

Who the hell comments on posts of the wife of someone you're working with (apparently never met his wife). Very odd IMO
That’s how social media works. People make comments and in this case likes on posts by people they have never met.

That’s we are doing right now.

It’s really not weird for someone to receive shares and posts from mutual friends or colleagues. Then to like either randomly or deliberately.

MrsGeralt · 07/11/2021 09:18

Bianca is no catch but then neither is Ioan, so perhaps they will both get what they each deserves.

Based on what? Do you know them?

Upyouranty · 07/11/2021 09:20

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LemonTT · 07/11/2021 10:10

Ioan is good looking man by conventional standards with a lucrative career. Whatever he deserves he will most likely continue to benefit from a privileged life.

The divorce is now publicly acrimonious. The children will never be the same. They will always love their parents. But they probably won’t respect or like either of them when this is over.

Ioan hasn’t done enough to prevent foreseeable behaviour from his ex. Alice’s anger does not justify her vindictive and at times abusive behaviour. I also think Ioan and Bianca are the least impacted by what Alice is posting.

PoppyMonth · 07/11/2021 10:31

I will admit I’d not heard of either of them before Alice’s public meltdown, but to say ‘Ioan is no catch…’ is a bit of a stretch. He’s extremely good looking.

Cheeseandlobster · 07/11/2021 10:51

Ioan is absolutely a catch as good looking wealthy man. There are not many men of his age like this in the dating pool. Bianca is an attractive woman too. Obviously I can't comment on their personalities. Alice is also a beautiful woman who looks wonderful for someone in their 50's. I hope she meets someone else one day who appreciates and loves her.

Cheeseandlobster · 07/11/2021 10:53

@Cheeseandlobster

Ioan is absolutely a catch as good looking wealthy man. There are not many men of his age like this in the dating pool. Bianca is an attractive woman too. Obviously I can't comment on their personalities. Alice is also a beautiful woman who looks wonderful for someone in their 50's. I hope she meets someone else one day who appreciates and loves her.
As in Alice looks decade's younger in my opinion. I am not saying people in their 50s are not attractive which I think this is how my post read. People in their 50's and older absolutely are attractive
Cheeseandlobster · 07/11/2021 10:55

Just out of interest how do you pronounce Ioan. Is it like Owen or is it I ow an ?

Viviennemary · 07/11/2021 10:57

I looked it up. Sad or what. Yo han (as in yo blair.)

Upyouranty · 07/11/2021 11:06

In my opinion a man who posts picks on IG of him and his new girlfriend while still married and risks a fall out for his children, knowing fine well he’s not present to support them - is no catch. Regardless of how good looking he is.

That’s my opinion.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 07/11/2021 11:10

@Upyouranty

In my opinion a man who posts picks on IG of him and his new girlfriend while still married and risks a fall out for his children, knowing fine well he’s not present to support them - is no catch. Regardless of how good looking he is.

That’s my opinion.

I share this opinion.

All the money and Colgate advert-worthy smiles in the world won’t make up for being made to feel worthless.

PoppyMonth · 07/11/2021 11:15

I agree that the IG photo was misguided if it has upset his kids.

But he’s been formally separated his wife for almost a year, so entirely reasonable otherwise.

The more Alice posts, the more I think he’s well shot of her.

Thesummeriwas16 · 07/11/2021 11:17

@Upyouranty

In my opinion a man who posts picks on IG of him and his new girlfriend while still married and risks a fall out for his children, knowing fine well he’s not present to support them - is no catch. Regardless of how good looking he is.

That’s my opinion.

I also agree - it's almost as if he wanted to provoke Alice.
Cheeseandlobster · 07/11/2021 11:21

@Viviennemary

I looked it up. Sad or what. Yo han (as in yo blair.)
Yo Han. Well I never thought it would be that. Mind truly blown
Viviennemary · 07/11/2021 11:28

Not sure if the h is acually pronnounced. I listened again. Even sadder. And Gruffud is Griffith.

sunglassesonthetable · 07/11/2021 11:31

If Ioan G ( my son's middle name as it happens, pronounced Yo-Unn ) worries for his kids or thinks they are in a difficult situation -
why, oh why would he do something so inflammatory as a simultaneous Instagram post with his new squeeze?

It's hardly taking the high road? And it shows no concern for his kids.

There are previous posters on here saying " the kids should be taken to safety"

Well either IG thinks they're fine or he doesn't care if they're not fine.

MrsGeralt · 07/11/2021 11:34

Reported the personal attack. I just asked you a question to expand on what you said. I don't know why you think that translates to me policing you.

Bianca has nothing to do with what ioan has or hasn't posted on social media so when you said "bianca is no catch" it appeared as though you were talking about her looks. She's a beautiful young woman so... I asked if you know her because if not, you don't know anything about her personality, there's no evidence of an affair other than what Alice has said so .. you can only really have been talking about bianca's looks. Not very nice though is it? To suggest that a woman has more or less worth based on how she looks?

StucklnAMuumuuCantGetOutOflt · 07/11/2021 11:39

I had never heard of Alice until January when the news of the separation came out, but knew Ioan from Forever (a series that got cancelled after one season)

The show with Maya Rudolph? Ioan wasn't in that @Eatyourfive
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forever_(2018_TV_series)#Cast_and_characters

Upyouranty · 07/11/2021 11:44

@MrsGeralt

Talk about a stretch….. what a croc.

BruiserWoods · 07/11/2021 11:48

I agree that he's not obliged to stay in a miserable marriage but I also think that posting the picture of himself and Bianca on IG could have been a way of letting the public know what she's like. He might have thought that if he divorced her he'd ''look bad'' so by goading her in the reactions she's displayed, he looks ''less bad''. Clever move on his part. I think she always over valued him. Staying with him for as long as she did when he was so hesitant to marry and have kids with her.

Their whole marriage, he's been the prize. And now she's had the rug ripped from under her and her value has gone because he no longer sees it. I hope she's having therapy. As for Ioan, he should let her have the house. I don't care how many levels of crazy she is, he left her, he's far wealthier than she is, their kids deserve a family home. He's an arse if his hot shot lawyers get her out of the house and in to rented property. EVEN IF SHE's put him through hell.

Upyouranty · 07/11/2021 11:49

Bianca has nothing to do with what ioan has or hasn't posted on social media

How do you know this?

it appeared as though you were talking about her looks

I’ve not once mentioned her looks.

She's a beautiful young woman so

In your opinion.

You might want to check yourself before you attempt to check others.

StucklnAMuumuuCantGetOutOflt · 07/11/2021 11:58

How does Tamzin Outhwaite know Ioan and why would she post amazing, having had Tom Ellis cheat on her, and having been through a hurtful break-up and divorce herself?

Glassofshloer · 07/11/2021 12:06

As I said before I really started out thinking Ioan was an ungrateful creep who left his devoted and supportive wife to pursue a younger woman now his wife is ‘older’ (NOT ‘old’)

But honestly; if she was half as vitriolic and histrionic in their marriage as she has been since the split, he must be exhausted and frankly in need of light company and positivity. Several comments she has made has made me think their marriage was one of her being hysterical, paranoid and needy - not letting him speak Welsh to his parents for one thing. How controlling is that?

He has done one slightly dubious thing in posting a photo of his new girlfriend a year after the split.

In return she has weaponised their kids - apparently they ‘accidentally’ saw the divorce papers, and she has leaked all kinds of things about their emotional state and things they have said. Private things which I can’t imagine the girls thought would end up splashed across the paper.

She has gone absolutely postal on social media, not surprising initially but she is still at it a year down the line - liking comments about Bianca’s looks, ‘watch your back’ type stuff, claims about Ioan which she then seems unable to substantiate.

By comparison all he has done is left her, and now a year later has a new girlfriend. All very upsetting for her but her reaction has really made me think he needed to get away from her for his mental health & the fact he has found someone else, well good luck to him.

I hope Alice gets the help she needs. She says she has no friends - why doesn’t she? It is within her power to now improve her life and move on from this, but she seems determined to press the self destruct button and take Ioan down with her. It’s all very sad and it must be awful for their kids.

ChequerBoard · 07/11/2021 12:09

@StucklnAMuumuuCantGetOutOflt

How does Tamzin Outhwaite know Ioan and why would she post amazing, having had Tom Ellis cheat on her, and having been through a hurtful break-up and divorce herself?
Newspapers report that Tamzin is/was a 'mutual friend' of the couple.

Maybe she was just reacting positively to a positive post about her friend being happy in October having split up from their partner in January?

Let's face it as a 'mutual friend' of the couple Tamzin is much closer to knowing the behind closed doors truth of the relationship than any of us on MN.

Glassofshloer · 07/11/2021 12:14

Oh she went off on one at Tamzin as well 🙄

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/ioan-gruffudds-ex-wife-accuses-25320460

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