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Bizarre in laws - dh death

277 replies

YOR76 · 29/10/2021 22:53

I have never posted on Mumsnet before but I find myself in a bizarre situation and I wonder if I can ask for your opinion/advice?

My husband died of cancer 6 weeks ago, we are young (late 30’s/early 40’s) with 3 children. We have always had a good relationship with my in laws, never any issues in the past, my dh did most of the communicating with them but I also exchanged messages with them about the kids etc.

Since my husband was diagnosed 14 months ago, they have been rubbish at contact, really rubbish. We have barely seen them even though they only live 20 minutes away, weeks would go by where they didn’t contact my dh and any contact with us always fell after golf, childcare for their other grandkids, shopping - we seemed to be at the bottom of the priority pile at a time when we really needed the support. And on the odd occasion they did contact, they weren’t interested in knowing how my dh was and instead asking stupid questions. They saw us 3 times in a year and one one occasion his dad didn’t even get out of the car and just waited at the bottom of the driveway!

Cut to the few weeks before dh died when we were told it was terminal, they still barely spoke to dh, they gave us the occasional ‘if you need us call us’ comment but to be frank, I had too much going on with caring for my dh and the children to go chasing after them. When dh became very ill I suggested they come and see him more often or call by and sit with him so I could have a few hours break, one particular day they told me they couldn’t as they were ‘busy’, when I rang them to say that he’d become quite bad it turns out they were playing golf/at the hairdressers instead of coming to visit their dying son! And his dad was most put out that he had to leave the golf course and made it known as if we should be thankful. The following week they even went away on holiday for a few days, knowing he would die that week - unbelievable.

However, on their return they announced they would be coming to the house every day and despite me asking them to contact first (we had district nurses in around the clock, we were up all night, I was doing all of dh’s care and by this point he was sedated with a syringe driver) they turned up unannounced and stayed for ages. They demanded I call them if he were to die (I politely said I wouldn’t be doing this because I would ensure the nurse was notified first, and then the children to see him and say their goodbyes and plus, it wasn’t as if he were going anywhere), and told me they would continue to come over every day, despite me telling them that this is not what either of us wanted.

At this stage I had nurses in most of the day meaning I got very little time alone with dh and I just wanted chance to sit with him and slowly say goodbye, we had both agreed that we wanted to be at home together in our bedroom when he died without lots of people there. I voiced this to the in laws but they said they didn’t care, they would be coming and basically told me I had no choice in the matter - in my own home.

On the day of dh’s death, they turned up after messaging me to tell me (not ask me) they would be coming and staying for an hour, which caused me real anxiety because I just knew dh was in his last few hours. Of course they stayed for far longer and despite me politely asking them to leave because our wishes had been to be alone, they refused and dh died while they were there. We didn’t get our goodbye we wished for, they recognised this with the nurse but said they didn’t care, they started to phone relatives only minutes after dh had died and invited his sister round even though I hadn’t yet told our children, and when I told them to stop and to allow me some time, they got really rude with me saying they had a ‘right’ to.

Ever since they’ve barely contacted me, not seen the children, been to visit the grave down the road from our house yet not bothered to call in to see me/kids and the final straw is that I was given an old school report of my dh’s during a memorial evening for him which they snuck off the table and are now refusing to give me back saying it belongs to them, despite it being presented to me in front of over 100 people. They have lied saying it had their name on it (there were no names on it) and seem astounded that I’d even want it or would want to keep it for our children.

There have been many more issues in the last few weeks but these are the main ones, they seem to have turned into patronising and controlling bullies and for the sake of maintaining any relationship with them for the sake of my dh and children, I am having to tolerate it. It seems to be my major source of upset right now when all I want to do is quietly grieve for the loss of my husband and my children’s daddy.

AIBU in finding his behaviour terrible? We are all experiencing a big loss but surely this is a time to look out for each other?

Most of the behaviour is driven by dh’s dad, he seems really jealous of me, he doesn’t seem to like that he has no involvement in the situation and everything has to be about what suits them and what is convenient for them.

I feel so so angry and upset that they are behaving like this, they took advantage of me when I was at my most vulnerable and bullied me, taking away those precious last moments with my dh. My dh’s illness was so much more than those last few weeks but they saw none of that and just wanted to cherry pick the times that suited them, they gave us no support at all and I just don’t feel they deserved to have any involvement in those last few days, especially when they waited until dh was sedated and couldn’t voice his wishes or protect me anymore…

OP posts:
Cocolapew · 29/10/2021 22:58

Good god that's awful. Personally I'd cut them off completely. Fuck them. I wouldn't want my DCs having any contact with such despicable people.
Im so very sorry for your loss.

Weedoogie · 29/10/2021 22:58

So very sorry for your loss.

And they're shots. Real, proper, straight from the arse shits

Shouldbedoing · 29/10/2021 22:58

Op. I am so sorry to read this. What a pair of monsters. They are off the scale awful. I am sorry for your loss of husband and the children's father.

FaaarkinEll · 29/10/2021 23:00

I'm so sorry for your loss. Absolutely unforgivable behaviour from them and you owe them nothing. I would cut off all contact with them

Flowers for you

Morechocolatethanbarbara · 29/10/2021 23:02

Unfortunately this is very common behaviour.

I would suggest joining Widowed And Young for support (WAY) a lot of members have sadly had very similar experiences.

You inlaws are lucky enough to have retired, seen their DC grown into adults, marry and have DC of their own. Your DH will have none of that, but as they still have each other in their twilight years they will find it very hard to comprehend what you are going through.

You need people around you who can support you at this very difficult time, often the best support is from people who have trod a similar path.

So sorry for the pain you are in right now and completely understand your anger.

PinkiOcelot · 29/10/2021 23:02

I’m so sorry OP. That sounds awful and they sound really unpleasant. I don’t think I’d be encouraging a relationship with them for your children. They don’t sound like loving grandparents anyway. Flowers

harriethoyle · 29/10/2021 23:03

My God. This is truly shocking. Go NC asap...

Mischance · 29/10/2021 23:03

I am so sorry that you are going through this. What self-centred insensitive people they really are. You do not need this at this terrible time.

You are right to feel angry. I cannot imagine how you are coping with this. My OH died last year and everyone was the epitome of tact, sensitivity and kindness - I do not know how I would have managed otherwise - so my heart goes out to you. Flowers

Iggly · 29/10/2021 23:03

It’s very difficult OP - first of all, what a hard thing for you to deal with, and sending you lots of love.
But the complication for me is that because he was their son - I can see why they might want to be there at the end. So I really don’t know. It’s hard to tell.

mushforbrain · 29/10/2021 23:05

I’m so sorry for your loss. I couldn’t help but comment as I can imagine my in laws being similar and your post just made me so angry on you and your DHs behalf.
Honestly, you don’t owe them anything, they didn’t help their son and his family when they needed to most, and literally ignored his dying wishes. Cut them off, let them live in their sad bitter world alone, they deserve it. You carry on loved and loving with your DC and your wonderful family memories.

itsraininghere · 29/10/2021 23:05

I am so sorry for your loss, OP. They sound awful and I am sorry you're having to deal with them on top of everything else. Take care of yourself and your DC, that's what's important Thanks

SunsetandCupcakes · 29/10/2021 23:05

I am so sorry for your loss, and I believe that the partner has it hardest but losing a child brings out the crazies, it doesn't matter how old the child is, they are still, to the parent, a child. This can lead to all acceptable relationships becoming impossible. It is not for you to bear, nor for you to fix, but just remember it isn't personal

Weatherwax13 · 29/10/2021 23:06

Absolutely echo pps. Cut contact with these horrors.
Your focus should be on your own and the children's well-being. Don't allow them this space in your head any longer.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I really hope you have genuine people around you for support. You must be reeling Flowers

StoneofDestiny · 29/10/2021 23:06

How desperately sad for you. I'd cut them off completely, they have taken enough from you, given them no more time to do any more harm.

LittleOwl153 · 29/10/2021 23:07

Gosh that all sounds very hard. 6 weeks on you are doing well to keep it together as much as you have.

Going forward I would just boot them out. Their son is no longer there. They have no right to anything. It is your house now (I assume) you are entitled to your own space. If they have keys change the locks if not just don't open the door.

If you are able to I woud contact the person who gave you the report and see if they will retrieve it for you. If not just let it go along with them.

They are grieving too. They did not expect him to die despite what the doctors say I suspect and realised this all too late. By waiting until your dh what sedated it meant they had no opposition to what they wanted. Which made it easier for them. But the do have opposition to being in your life now if you don't want it.

Take care, be careful, anger is part of grief but can also be consuming. See if there is someone you can talk to - was macmillian or someone involved with your husband. They are likely to have grief counsellors.

GrandmasCat · 29/10/2021 23:07

OP, that is horrible behaviour, it is reasonable to feel as you do but you need to grieve without this extra burden you are putting on yourself expecting them to check on you or the children. You know they are not the kind of family that will be there for you, they were not there even for his son.

Please let them go, stop expecting anything from them and thank the universe they are out of your life, you are much better on your own than with them around adding to your pain Flowers

Phyllis321 · 29/10/2021 23:08

I’m sorry for your loss. Flowers

I’m staggered to read your OP. Such callousness and narcissism. I honestly wouldn’t want such dreadful people in my life, ever.

Frazzled50yrold · 29/10/2021 23:08

Wow,when was there ever 100%agreement on mumsnet.Prioritise yourself and your children, sometimes it's just impossible to understand behaviours.

FedUpOfYetAnotherCold · 29/10/2021 23:09

OP, I am so so sorry for your loss Flowers

I completely get how annoyed you are, but I guess your DH is their son.

I cannot begin to imagine how I would feel if I lost my son, or how I would feel in the end stages of his life, seeing him on a syringe driver.

Death of loved ones impacts us all differently, and make us act in out of character ways. I dread to think how I would behave if my son was dying. Nothing would.stoo.be trying to be with him in his final hours.

I wonder how your in laws must be feeling to have lost their son... ?

Again - I am so sorry for your loss OP, I lost my mum last month and the waves of grief are intolerable.and I am wiped out and a mess most days.

Big hugs to you and your children Flowers

desperatehousewife2 · 29/10/2021 23:09

My deepest condolences to you and your children, TIMMS30.
I honestly don’t know what to say to you about your arsehole in-laws. They sound awful.

Femnisaurus · 29/10/2021 23:09

oh TIMMS that's horrible, I have had some experience of parents taking over a death bed situation - my friend, not a partner - but she had said she didn't want her mother there, but the mother pretty much took over.

You only have one focus now - and that is the emotional and physical well being of yourself and your children. You own them nothing, I would suggest you stop all contact.

As for the school report. Can you ask the person who gave it to you to get it back from the parents? Call in as much support as you need.

I also recommend the bereavement section here on mumsnet. Lots of support from people who have gone through / are going through coming to terms with the death of a loved one.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 29/10/2021 23:11

Flowers sounds like you have had a terrible time of it.

Horrible insensitive and non-family like behaviour.
Are your children incredibly fond of them? Because honestly unless they were crying for grandma and grandpa I'd be going close to NC

Newmumatlast · 29/10/2021 23:12

Sending you lots of love. I would go NC for now as though you're trying to keep contact for your children it doesnt sound like it would be in their interests at the moment anyway. Spend the time grieving together without their interference. See I'd you can contact DHs old school for a copy of his old reports or anything they may have. Appreciate it will have been a long time ago he was there but you never know. At the very least there might be a teacher at one of his old schools who remembers him and can tell you things you can record yourself in a book for your children. It may be a nice thing to do together when you're ready anyway to make memory books and boxes together collating anything at all that makes you all remember him and eases the worry about forgetting. Take care xx

blanketg · 29/10/2021 23:12

I'm so sorry for your loss & having to deal with these selfish arseholes on top of this. I'm speechless at their behaviour.

freelions · 29/10/2021 23:13

They sound incredibly self centred

Its almost as if they wanted to be there 'at the end' to make themselves feel important but they couldn't be bothered to be there earlier on when their presence might have actually been helpful

YANBU to feel very let down by them