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Bizarre in laws - dh death

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YOR76 · 29/10/2021 22:53

I have never posted on Mumsnet before but I find myself in a bizarre situation and I wonder if I can ask for your opinion/advice?

My husband died of cancer 6 weeks ago, we are young (late 30’s/early 40’s) with 3 children. We have always had a good relationship with my in laws, never any issues in the past, my dh did most of the communicating with them but I also exchanged messages with them about the kids etc.

Since my husband was diagnosed 14 months ago, they have been rubbish at contact, really rubbish. We have barely seen them even though they only live 20 minutes away, weeks would go by where they didn’t contact my dh and any contact with us always fell after golf, childcare for their other grandkids, shopping - we seemed to be at the bottom of the priority pile at a time when we really needed the support. And on the odd occasion they did contact, they weren’t interested in knowing how my dh was and instead asking stupid questions. They saw us 3 times in a year and one one occasion his dad didn’t even get out of the car and just waited at the bottom of the driveway!

Cut to the few weeks before dh died when we were told it was terminal, they still barely spoke to dh, they gave us the occasional ‘if you need us call us’ comment but to be frank, I had too much going on with caring for my dh and the children to go chasing after them. When dh became very ill I suggested they come and see him more often or call by and sit with him so I could have a few hours break, one particular day they told me they couldn’t as they were ‘busy’, when I rang them to say that he’d become quite bad it turns out they were playing golf/at the hairdressers instead of coming to visit their dying son! And his dad was most put out that he had to leave the golf course and made it known as if we should be thankful. The following week they even went away on holiday for a few days, knowing he would die that week - unbelievable.

However, on their return they announced they would be coming to the house every day and despite me asking them to contact first (we had district nurses in around the clock, we were up all night, I was doing all of dh’s care and by this point he was sedated with a syringe driver) they turned up unannounced and stayed for ages. They demanded I call them if he were to die (I politely said I wouldn’t be doing this because I would ensure the nurse was notified first, and then the children to see him and say their goodbyes and plus, it wasn’t as if he were going anywhere), and told me they would continue to come over every day, despite me telling them that this is not what either of us wanted.

At this stage I had nurses in most of the day meaning I got very little time alone with dh and I just wanted chance to sit with him and slowly say goodbye, we had both agreed that we wanted to be at home together in our bedroom when he died without lots of people there. I voiced this to the in laws but they said they didn’t care, they would be coming and basically told me I had no choice in the matter - in my own home.

On the day of dh’s death, they turned up after messaging me to tell me (not ask me) they would be coming and staying for an hour, which caused me real anxiety because I just knew dh was in his last few hours. Of course they stayed for far longer and despite me politely asking them to leave because our wishes had been to be alone, they refused and dh died while they were there. We didn’t get our goodbye we wished for, they recognised this with the nurse but said they didn’t care, they started to phone relatives only minutes after dh had died and invited his sister round even though I hadn’t yet told our children, and when I told them to stop and to allow me some time, they got really rude with me saying they had a ‘right’ to.

Ever since they’ve barely contacted me, not seen the children, been to visit the grave down the road from our house yet not bothered to call in to see me/kids and the final straw is that I was given an old school report of my dh’s during a memorial evening for him which they snuck off the table and are now refusing to give me back saying it belongs to them, despite it being presented to me in front of over 100 people. They have lied saying it had their name on it (there were no names on it) and seem astounded that I’d even want it or would want to keep it for our children.

There have been many more issues in the last few weeks but these are the main ones, they seem to have turned into patronising and controlling bullies and for the sake of maintaining any relationship with them for the sake of my dh and children, I am having to tolerate it. It seems to be my major source of upset right now when all I want to do is quietly grieve for the loss of my husband and my children’s daddy.

AIBU in finding his behaviour terrible? We are all experiencing a big loss but surely this is a time to look out for each other?

Most of the behaviour is driven by dh’s dad, he seems really jealous of me, he doesn’t seem to like that he has no involvement in the situation and everything has to be about what suits them and what is convenient for them.

I feel so so angry and upset that they are behaving like this, they took advantage of me when I was at my most vulnerable and bullied me, taking away those precious last moments with my dh. My dh’s illness was so much more than those last few weeks but they saw none of that and just wanted to cherry pick the times that suited them, they gave us no support at all and I just don’t feel they deserved to have any involvement in those last few days, especially when they waited until dh was sedated and couldn’t voice his wishes or protect me anymore…

OP posts:
DrManhattan · 29/10/2021 23:33

I would go no contact. Your kids won't be missing out on such selfish grand parents.
Focus on yourself and your kids xxxx
Take care xxxx

CatWithARabbit · 29/10/2021 23:34

So very sorry for your loss. Cannot believe what I was reading, what nasty mean people - truly shocking. I have never heard the like. I will say a prayer for you and your children. I hope you have the strength to deal with them.

toomuchlaundry · 29/10/2021 23:38

I am sorry for your loss Flowers

I wonder if they were in denial and just couldn’t face the fact their son was dying. I’m not sure I would act rationally although I am sure I would just be a crying wreck.

How were they before DH got ill?

hapagirl · 29/10/2021 23:39

Dear God. So sorry for your loss OP. In-laws sound like truly hideous people who want to make it all about themselves. So sorry you have to deal with them on top of your loss.

EKGEMS · 29/10/2021 23:39

I'm so very sorry for your terrible loss. You do not need to continue to have any relationship with them or your children. I would get a solicitor involved and obtain a restraining order to keep those nasty bastards away from your family and your home.

tazzyb · 29/10/2021 23:39

I'm so sorry for your loss.
My husband was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago. My parents have been so supportive and our adult children have been amazing. My inlaws, on the other hand, have behaved appallingly. Neither of them visited or even phoned to see how he was after I broke the awful news to them. I begged them to come round and see him. Eventually his Dad, begrudgingly, popped in for an hour but talked about how ill he was feeling the whole time!
My husband is desperately ill and had chemotherapy last year.
None of his family have contacted us since that one brief visit over two years ago, they haven't bothered to find out if he came through the chemo or if he is in fact, still alive. Husband was so sad and shocked at their behaviour but has now resigned himself to the fact that he will probably never hear from them again. I am so angry on his behalf. They disgust me. They are absolute monsters.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 29/10/2021 23:40

i am so sorry for your loss
people are very afraid of death, and i imagine that was their immediate reaction

TatianaBis · 29/10/2021 23:40

I don’t think this has anything to do with fear or death, I think they’re just self-centred arseholes.

lynntheyresexpeople · 29/10/2021 23:41

Oh op, I'm so very sorry for your loss Thanks
They are vile, horrible people. Cut them out for your own sanity.

EKGEMS · 29/10/2021 23:42

@MrsLargeEmbodied Oh for God's sake spare us with your excuses for piss poor behavior of her cruel in laws!

tunnocksreturns2019 · 29/10/2021 23:43

I’m so sorry you’ve had to deal with this at an already impossible time - I did end of life care for my DH when we were in our 30s with kids too. It’s not something anyone should ever have to shoulder and it sickens me that their behaviour has made things worse. I hope you and the DC have kind and helpful people in your lives and send much love Flowers also to you, tazzyb

tunnocksreturns2019 · 29/10/2021 23:44

@MrsLargeEmbodied

i am so sorry for your loss people are very afraid of death, and i imagine that was their immediate reaction
Tough. It doesn’t make it okay. Not even close.
EasterIssland · 29/10/2021 23:45

Really sorry to hear about your dh and their awful behaviour

What age are your kids and of old enough what do they say / expect from their gp. I’d cut them but reassure your kids how much you love them and care about them and will respect their decision regarding their gp

Changechangychange · 29/10/2021 23:48

Just block their numbers and hope they go away.

DF’s family were horrible to DM after DF died. They were very open about wanting an equal share of his estate (which she obviously needed to live on and bring up two primary-aged children with - it’s nothing at all like when an elderly person with no dependents dies), and were really shitty with her when she wouldn’t agree to sell our fucking family home to give them a payout.

She cut contact straight after the funeral, it has done me no harm whatsoever over the past 35 years. Do it with a clear conscience.

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 29/10/2021 23:50

Absolute arseholes. Neglected their son (and DIL and grandkids) when their support was actually needed, as they prioritised their social lives, but wanted to muscle in at the end as they probably felt it would sound good to say they were with him when he died.

So sorry to you and your kids for your loss. I'd keep contact with these dickheads to the bare minimum. The family your husband built sounds much better than the one he was born into. Flowers

Theunamedcat · 29/10/2021 23:52

I would speak to the person who gave you the report and explain what has happened maybe they can intervene? My aunt did with my mother when she kept a gift for my daughter my aunt was clear its for dd not for you and made her turn it over

Cameleongirl · 29/10/2021 23:54

Some people are truly awful at dealing with grief so I wouldn’t judge them too harshly-yet. It’s possible that they simply can’t deal with their son’s death atm, I honestly think I’d be almost insane with grief for a while if one of my children died.

Give them time and see whether their behavior changes. This is different, but my IL’s were awful when my Mum died, basically avoided me and pretended it hadn’t happened. It was v. hurtful, but I don’t think they could deal with it for some reason. Spend time with people who are supportive to you and your children. Flowers

TOMS35 · 29/10/2021 23:54

Thanks everyone, really interesting to hear all of your opinions. I think it’s fair to say you’ve reassured me that I’m being perfectly reasonable, in fact probably too reasonable and that’s my downfall.

The in laws are usually nice polite people, I’d say their relationship with dh was never particularly close as such, certainly not as close as with my family but I presumed that was because we gravitated towards mine as they live nearer and we have more in common. I never really questioned it, and I certainly never said anything to my dh about them during his illness because I didn’t want to hurt his feelings, it only became apparent more when he started to voice it and I realised it wasn’t just me that thought it.

My dh had the art of diplomacy, he is the person I would go to in this type of situation, which now makes it all the harder.

My feelings now are that I don’t want any big fall out or drama with them but, I’m going to do a tactical retreat and maintain a very basic relationship between them and the children. I honestly just don’t think they’d see any fault with their behaviour so it would only cause me more upset.

CascadeOceanWaveBlues · 29/10/2021 23:56

@TOMS35

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Changechangychange · 29/10/2021 23:59

I think that’s a good idea OP - if they are good people poleaxed by grief, they will make contact and try to build a relationship with their GCs. If they are self-absorbed tossers, they will go back to their golf and you’ll only hear from them when they want something. Should become pretty clear over time which one it is.

Don’t kill yourself trying to fit in with their wishes though - if they want to see the GC at a time that isn’t convenient, no need to put yourself out massively to suit them. You are the grieving family here, your needs and your children’s needs come first. No running round after them to facilitate contact with the grandchildren if they won’t meet you halfway.

Cocolapew · 30/10/2021 00:02

@Cameleongirl

Some people are truly awful at dealing with grief so I wouldn’t judge them too harshly-yet. It’s possible that they simply can’t deal with their son’s death atm, I honestly think I’d be almost insane with grief for a while if one of my children died.

Give them time and see whether their behavior changes. This is different, but my IL’s were awful when my Mum died, basically avoided me and pretended it hadn’t happened. It was v. hurtful, but I don’t think they could deal with it for some reason. Spend time with people who are supportive to you and your children. Flowers

Their behaviour when their DS was still alive was shocking, prioritising golf and hairdresser appointments over your dying son and his family isn't grief.
Summerfun54321 · 30/10/2021 00:02

I’m so sorry for your loss. I expect your DH would want you and your DC to be happy above and beyond any obligation for you to stay in contact with his parents. I’m also sorry they took away your chance for a private goodbye, is there something you can do with just you and your children to say goodbye in another way? A tiny ceremony for you and your children at a special place that meant something to you all?

Workinghardeveryday · 30/10/2021 00:02

Totally shocking behaviour! So very sorry for your loss xxx

tobedtoMN · 30/10/2021 00:02

I am so so sorry for your loss.

It is understandable that you want your DC to have a wonderful relationship with GP...

  1. reality check - they are not wonderful. You describe them (accurately) as 'patronising & controlling bullies'.

  2. your (completely understandable) anger over this shit show is not what YOU need, being consumed with anger is not good for you or your DC.

For the reasons stated above and every word of your OP CUT THEM OFF.

Aquamarine1029 · 30/10/2021 00:03

Cut these monstrous people out of your life entirely. Your children don't need them and should be protected from them.