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Bizarre in laws - dh death

277 replies

YOR76 · 29/10/2021 22:53

I have never posted on Mumsnet before but I find myself in a bizarre situation and I wonder if I can ask for your opinion/advice?

My husband died of cancer 6 weeks ago, we are young (late 30’s/early 40’s) with 3 children. We have always had a good relationship with my in laws, never any issues in the past, my dh did most of the communicating with them but I also exchanged messages with them about the kids etc.

Since my husband was diagnosed 14 months ago, they have been rubbish at contact, really rubbish. We have barely seen them even though they only live 20 minutes away, weeks would go by where they didn’t contact my dh and any contact with us always fell after golf, childcare for their other grandkids, shopping - we seemed to be at the bottom of the priority pile at a time when we really needed the support. And on the odd occasion they did contact, they weren’t interested in knowing how my dh was and instead asking stupid questions. They saw us 3 times in a year and one one occasion his dad didn’t even get out of the car and just waited at the bottom of the driveway!

Cut to the few weeks before dh died when we were told it was terminal, they still barely spoke to dh, they gave us the occasional ‘if you need us call us’ comment but to be frank, I had too much going on with caring for my dh and the children to go chasing after them. When dh became very ill I suggested they come and see him more often or call by and sit with him so I could have a few hours break, one particular day they told me they couldn’t as they were ‘busy’, when I rang them to say that he’d become quite bad it turns out they were playing golf/at the hairdressers instead of coming to visit their dying son! And his dad was most put out that he had to leave the golf course and made it known as if we should be thankful. The following week they even went away on holiday for a few days, knowing he would die that week - unbelievable.

However, on their return they announced they would be coming to the house every day and despite me asking them to contact first (we had district nurses in around the clock, we were up all night, I was doing all of dh’s care and by this point he was sedated with a syringe driver) they turned up unannounced and stayed for ages. They demanded I call them if he were to die (I politely said I wouldn’t be doing this because I would ensure the nurse was notified first, and then the children to see him and say their goodbyes and plus, it wasn’t as if he were going anywhere), and told me they would continue to come over every day, despite me telling them that this is not what either of us wanted.

At this stage I had nurses in most of the day meaning I got very little time alone with dh and I just wanted chance to sit with him and slowly say goodbye, we had both agreed that we wanted to be at home together in our bedroom when he died without lots of people there. I voiced this to the in laws but they said they didn’t care, they would be coming and basically told me I had no choice in the matter - in my own home.

On the day of dh’s death, they turned up after messaging me to tell me (not ask me) they would be coming and staying for an hour, which caused me real anxiety because I just knew dh was in his last few hours. Of course they stayed for far longer and despite me politely asking them to leave because our wishes had been to be alone, they refused and dh died while they were there. We didn’t get our goodbye we wished for, they recognised this with the nurse but said they didn’t care, they started to phone relatives only minutes after dh had died and invited his sister round even though I hadn’t yet told our children, and when I told them to stop and to allow me some time, they got really rude with me saying they had a ‘right’ to.

Ever since they’ve barely contacted me, not seen the children, been to visit the grave down the road from our house yet not bothered to call in to see me/kids and the final straw is that I was given an old school report of my dh’s during a memorial evening for him which they snuck off the table and are now refusing to give me back saying it belongs to them, despite it being presented to me in front of over 100 people. They have lied saying it had their name on it (there were no names on it) and seem astounded that I’d even want it or would want to keep it for our children.

There have been many more issues in the last few weeks but these are the main ones, they seem to have turned into patronising and controlling bullies and for the sake of maintaining any relationship with them for the sake of my dh and children, I am having to tolerate it. It seems to be my major source of upset right now when all I want to do is quietly grieve for the loss of my husband and my children’s daddy.

AIBU in finding his behaviour terrible? We are all experiencing a big loss but surely this is a time to look out for each other?

Most of the behaviour is driven by dh’s dad, he seems really jealous of me, he doesn’t seem to like that he has no involvement in the situation and everything has to be about what suits them and what is convenient for them.

I feel so so angry and upset that they are behaving like this, they took advantage of me when I was at my most vulnerable and bullied me, taking away those precious last moments with my dh. My dh’s illness was so much more than those last few weeks but they saw none of that and just wanted to cherry pick the times that suited them, they gave us no support at all and I just don’t feel they deserved to have any involvement in those last few days, especially when they waited until dh was sedated and couldn’t voice his wishes or protect me anymore…

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blanketg · 29/10/2021 23:14

But the complication for me is that because he was their son - I can see why they might want to be there at the end.

Why not before the end though?

blubberyboo · 29/10/2021 23:15

I think you need some time away with your kids on a short break to recuperate and well away from them being able to turn up or contact you.

Rebuild your strength as you rightly said they bullied you when they knew your DH couldn’t step in. Now you need the strength of both of you.

I’ve a feeling they might lose interest and fade into the background again but you need to be prepared for them becoming awkward and demanding when it comes to your DC

YOU call the shots now. It is your home and your DC they do not get to invade your space or give you orders.

TOMS35 · 29/10/2021 23:17

I feel like had they been around to help and support us, and to have shared the experience with us, we definitely would’ve felt differently towards them.

In the last few months before dh died, his personality seemed to change and he lost his inhibitions which meant he spoke his mind more. He was very hurt by his parents behaviour towards him and quite angry at times about it, he questioned why they were so uninterested and because of this, I felt like I wanted to protect him and protect our shared wishes at the end.

I completely agree that any parent would want to be with their child at the end, it is the ultimate privilege. But where were they when we needed them, when he was alive and aware of who was around to support him? My dh was on life support at one stage of his treatment and when I called them to tell them, it was as if I was just telling them something trivial, they just didn’t seem to care. They didn’t come and visit him at all.

I have joined WAY and I also have my first bereavement counselling session next week which I am looking forward to - it can only be a good thing.

Thankfully my side of the family have been amazing to us and so I have a lot of wonderful support. You’re right about it being all consuming and I’ve had to mentally park it in my head and almost detach myself from it, before I get lost in the anger 😡🙈

Suzanne999 · 29/10/2021 23:17

I am so sorry for your loss. And saddened by the awful behaviour of your in laws.
When you feel up to it Google an organisation called Widowed and Young (WAY) which I hope you’ll find helpful and supportive.

For now I’d say preserve your strength and energy for yourself and your children. The in laws don’t sound as if they’re going to be of any help and although they are grieving the loss of their son, they should not be treating you like this.

Willyoujustbequiet · 29/10/2021 23:18

I'm so so sorry for your loss

It sounds utterly horrific. The only thing I can understand is them wanting to be there when he passed. As awful as they have been to you, you are a parent yourself. I think any parent would want to be there.

Cam2020 · 29/10/2021 23:19

I'm sorry for your loss, OP. How awful - as if you're not going through enough right now.

I agree with this:
Fuck them. I wouldn't want my DCs having any contact with such despicable people.

Thatusernamewastaken · 29/10/2021 23:20

Good grief, sorry for your loss.
They seem just awful.
Had similar behaviour from my family when my dad died. Family members entirely disinterested for the most part and then trying to position themselves right in the centre and call the shots at the end and put on a show for others.
I was a child at the time but remember it well and while my mum has forgiven somewhat, I never did and will have nothing to do with them 20+ years later.
You and your kids are better off without them in your life, they’ve shown their true colours and doesn’t sound like you’d be missing much.

lovemelongtime · 29/10/2021 23:20

So sorry for your loss. I just can't click and pass on. I can't imagine how much pain you must be feeling. Please try and take care of yourself and your little ones 😘

hangrylady · 29/10/2021 23:20

I'm so sorry for your loss OP. It seems to me that your in laws didn't want to be there for the day to day stuff you had to deal with whilst your DH was Ill, but wanted to be there at the end in order to look like these wonderful, caring parents who were there with their dying son. I'm sorry but I think you should cut them off, they're not nice people and you and your DC don't need people like this in your lives.Flowers

SwimmingOnEggshells · 29/10/2021 23:21

I'm so sorry for your loss OP. Your in laws are horrific, I cannot believe people would be this callous and narcissistic. I'm sending you love and strength 💐

Willyoujustbequiet · 29/10/2021 23:21

My apologies I just saw the last post.

Having lost most of my family, including a tragic death of a young sibling, you have a difficult path ahead. I hope you find strength Flowers

chaosrabbitland · 29/10/2021 23:24

they sound like crap parents and crap in laws and crap grandparents , cut them off , dont have anymore to do with them at all , from what you have said i dont think your children will be missing out not seeing this selfish nasty pair

LoveGoldberg · 29/10/2021 23:25

I think they deserve to know this. Their behaviour has made you feel like this and in my head they deserve to know what their son would think of them and let that be their lasting memory.

CallmeHendricks · 29/10/2021 23:26

Having sat with my dad when he died, I can catch a tiny fragment of what you must have gone through with your husband. I cannot imagine how it must have felt having people there who were not "on your side."

This must have made the whole terrible situation even worse, if that were possible. I just don't know what to suggest, but I'm sending love and good wishes to you.

NoSquirrels · 29/10/2021 23:26

for the sake of maintaining any relationship with them for the sake of my dh and children

You don’t have to. It’s OK. You don’t have to maintain that relationship.

I’m so sorry for your loss. Take care of yourself first. Take care of your children next. Surround yourselves with people who have your best interests at heart.

What would your DH have said? I can’t believe he’d want you to maintain a relationship when they’ve behaved so awfully.

Flowers
Smileyaxolotl1 · 29/10/2021 23:26

Yanbu at all. If they had been incredibly supportive throughout his illness and always there for you I would have some sympathy for them wanting to be there at the end etc.
But it’s clear they couldn’t care less about him and saw him as an inconvenience until then. I can only assume their behaviour when he passed away was performative in some way.
They are cunts and your kids shouldn’t have to be around people who behaved with such callousness to your family.
I’ve never said this before but if I were you I would want to go no contact with them. In reality though it might be best to be guided by what you think your husband would want you to do. I know for a fact that if my in laws behaved like this my husband would want me to go non contact but I know many people who wouldn’t.
Best wishes to you in the midst of this awfulness. Xx

Cherrysoup · 29/10/2021 23:27

Sweetheart, protect yourself and your children. Cut them out of your life. They have repeatedly demonstrated that they don’t care about your feelings. They can grieve away from you (seems a bit bonkers/too late) and you simply don’t need their shit in your life. Don’t allow them to impinge on you anymore, just cut them off. They sound frankly horrific. My biggest sympathy to you for your loss. Flowers

JuneOsborne · 29/10/2021 23:27

Oh, you poor, poor thing. I am so sorry.

This is the last thing you need. Cut them out. Doesn't have to be permanent. But give yourself some breathing space. Block their phones.

agteacht · 29/10/2021 23:27

Couldn't read and run. Heartbroken for you, this is horrendous. No words for it.

Look after yourself, you have every every right in the world to be angry but be cautious it doesn't take over your mind. You need all your energy for you and those who matter, and sadly that does not include your FIL and MIL.

Wishing you every strength in the world.

SRS29 · 29/10/2021 23:28

OP I'm so so sorry for your loss......the way the in-laws have behaved sounds inexcusable.....could be their way of dealing with it but reading your account I don't think so. Sounds like the best plan is slowly no contact for the sake of you and your children.....the grandparents sound horrible. Good luck xxx

Grimbelina · 29/10/2021 23:29

So sorry for your loss. It's not the same, but I lost a baby (in very sad circumstances) and two people behaved appallingly in the aftermath, it was almost like they just didn't know how to behave. 10 years later I have no contact with them as over that following decade they let me down time after time, with such a lack of self awareness, selfishness and narcissism that I can't believe I put up with it now. Your in-laws have shown you who they really are, and you need to heed that. Please don't waste any more time on them, concentrate on yourself and your children.

Franklyfrost · 29/10/2021 23:31

Do what keeps you and your kids as sane and functioning as possible. If that means avoiding pil then so be it. I wouldn’t make big decisions right now because it will create more stress. You could say your not seeing them this month or this year and then review the situation. Sorry for your loss.

Vallmo47 · 29/10/2021 23:31

I have no words other than how very sorry I am to read your OP. You don’t owe these people anything, stay civil for the sake of the kids but they’ve shown their true colours. Take care and hug your babies tight, they will need you more than ever but they are also the one thing that will get you through.

FireworkParrot · 29/10/2021 23:32

I think their behaviour has been appalling, but could it be that they simply found it too difficult to see him and accept that their son was dying and that's why they ducked out during his many monthsrof illness? I'm not saying that's right but maybe they just couldn't accept it? Similarly with the barging in at the end and the taking of the school report.....the lying about it is terrible but maybe it brings back memories of their son when he was a child? I'm not excusing it, I'm just saying I can't imagine what I'd be like if my child was dying nomatter how old they were. I'd hope I'd be rational but I couldn't guarantee it.....

TatianaBis · 29/10/2021 23:32

Grandparents are massively overrated imo. Great if you have some nice ones, but pointless if you don’t.

I wouldn’t bother to stay in contact with them for the sake of the kids, I don’t see what they bring to your kids’ lives other than hassle.

If you must - see them once a year at Christmas or something but only if you are able to stand up to them.