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The One With The Vintage Dresses From Paris Geller Doesn’t Know About

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 26/10/2021 17:37

Previous thread here

I’ve lost count of how many threads I’ve had, so I bloody well hope this is the one where he signs!

I think whoever pointed out my mother gave me the dresses out of guilt is right. And don’t worry, I’m not handing them back.

I’m sure you will all enjoy this story. So, my grandmother left me various things in her will. To date I have received only one of them, which I have treasured and looked after for years. That’s why I’m so excited about the dresses.

The one I am particularly sore about is her engagement ring. It’s a diamond trilogy ring. I love it. I love it not because of what it is, but because of what it represents. She always promised it to me, and we were incredibly close (armchair psychologists, this is where you raise an eyebrow and look thoughtfully over the top of your glasses whilst going hmmm) not least because, when I was under a year old, my mother went into hospital to have my brother three months early. They managed to stop labour, but my mother stayed in hospital for nearly four months. I was only allowed to see her once a week, and got so upset at leaving her, that they decided it was best for me not to see her. My grandma moved in to look after me, and effectually became my second mum. I didn’t see my actual mum for nearly 3 months, and then she came home with a new born who needed all the usual attention. And Granny moved out again. When I was 8, she moved in with us and stayed with us until she died. I was the one who found her, when I was 13.

Any wonder I have deep seated issues?! Anyway. Back to the diamond story. She left me the ring. However, my mother has never handed it over. She wears it. I could understand not getting it til I was 21, 25, or 30 …nothing (she gave me half a dozen duck eggs for my 30th present, by the way), but then when my wedding day passed (and no, she didn’t hand it over for him to use as an engagement ring) and then my 40th…well, I’ve pretty much given up hope of getting it.

It was in a letter my grandmother left, not her actual will, and I’ve no idea where the letter is, or if she even still has it.

I have already told my brother that the ring is literally the only thing I will want when the time comes, as I can see her leaving it to my SIL just to spite me.

So, if you’re looking for a reason why I was fucked up enough to marry a loser like Geller, I think my therapist pretty much nailed it with the comment ‘do you think the way your mother replaced you with your brother might have something to do with your competitive relationship with him?’

As you were folks. I’m opening the gin and lighting the fire.

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Sugarntailsnluvlyspicysnails · 03/11/2021 00:54

When "She asked me twice to read a tiny bit" do you think that they could have been bits that related to the father/daughter dynamic in the story?

Muchmorethan · 03/11/2021 01:19

As he has the book, when DD asks for it you can truthfully say it's at his..... and let him deal with her asking for it when they are there next.

I wouldn't get a tablet for the reasons Scrapper142 gives

timeisnotaline · 03/11/2021 03:51

You can also explain to him that parents of advanced readers have had to deal with this for years and it’s impossible to fully police, so the important bit is being open about what they are reading and able to discuss it.

Sunbird24 · 03/11/2021 05:30

Do we think he could manage to discuss the things they read sensibly with his DDs? Surely that would mean actually listening to their opinions and asking questions about their understanding of things, rather than just trying to steamroller his views over them.

Mix56 · 03/11/2021 07:50

To discuss the book properly he would have to read it first! its not appropriate if its got, as Iratus says, sex stuff in it.
I expect he hasn't returned it as he has discovered this is the case & doesn't want to own up.
Next, you determine if she saw any of sex stuff? If so you may need to discuss it ?

StuckInPollyannaMode · 03/11/2021 10:32

@SpringCrocus yes that was his response!

I have suggested that before she reads it that he reads it so he is prepared to discuss it with her - I wasn't aware of any sexual content but he's probably only read one page.

It was parent's evening last night. He dialled in whilst travelling with work, managed to completely disrupt the call, had train announcements going on in the background and end it by chucking me out of the call somehow! The teacher called me back and just said 'there, that's better' when it was back to the two of us Grin

The Dollies are both doing really really well. DD1 is on the G&T register and the main takeaway, as I relayed to Geller, is that we (by which of course I meant HE) must stop comparing DD2 to DD1 as it is adversely affecting her confidence.

I've decided I'm turning out a couple of cupboards this weekend. I am fed up with the stuff that is taking over the house. I want to get it sorted before Christmas. On the subject of Christmas, I have calmed down and decided not to get the tablets. I think you're all right and I should leave them to have them at his and he can deal with the battle. DD1 wants a Switch, but DD2 isn't interested... and I'm not spending £300!

Any ideas where I could get a remote controlled Jaguar car? DD2 is obsessed. And no, I'm not talking about the ride on F Pace! Just a normal size remote control car one. If she can't have the car, she wants an actual remote control jaguar cat. Not sure that's hit the market yet....

Oh, and re signing the settlement? No, his side haven't drawn up the paperwork yet...talk about dragging their feet.

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mbosnz · 03/11/2021 10:48

How you have managed not to say 'truth hurts, does it Gellar?!' with reference to the book, I do not know!

With reference to the comparison thing, my eldest is G&T, and we recently fired a tutor who compared the two, after having been asked several times not to. They are both their own people with their own strengths and weaknesses, and deserve to be valued, appreciated and supported in their own right.

Can't help with the remote control jaguar car, sorry!

Fooshufflewickjbannanapants · 03/11/2021 11:08

Can't help with the jag (unless it's scalectrix) but have to say we got a switch with a ring fit to share ( between three) I was not overly convinced tbh but we got a couple of games between them (think one is Mario as it has a real life kart??) and mine LOVE it and I do ring fit exercises every day 🙈

Justilou1 · 03/11/2021 12:19

@StuckInPollyannaMode re the book… I’m pretty sweary. (I draw the line at some words though..) I used to feel terribly guilty about this, but my three kids (all late teens) are all avid readers, all either bi-lingual or multilingual and, to add fuel to this fire, throw down this one… www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists
(So there!!!)

I just checked AliExpress and have found a remote Jag. (No promises, but it looks good. It’s in Aussie dollars, so it’s worth about 12p for you 😂) Pretty sure you could look on Wish.com too. Just put remote model Welly Jaguar car in the search engine. It can take a while to be delivered though.

The whole twin thing sucks.
My twins are B/G and at different schools. They don’t even look related, let alone alike, yet they get compared to each other still… (esp by evil MIL.) To make matters worse, DDs are both at same school. Both are very visible with mermaid-like, super-thick, long, blonde hair, blue eyes, etc… DD1 is Über-academic and poor DD2 (the girl twin) is a super hard worker, but she is creative - artistic, musical and funny (which of course doesn’t necessarily show on report cards, but I actually think she has the highest IQ and EQ of the three of them) can’t move without being compared to one or the other.

The One With The Vintage Dresses From Paris Geller Doesn’t Know About
pointythings · 03/11/2021 12:24

Just1lou my DDs are 2 years apart in age, look very alike and ended up being constantly compared at school. DD2 suffered most as she ended up having the same teachers who remembered DD1. It finally stopped in 6th form as by then DD1's subject teachers had moved on. They're both very academic, but in different directions, both at uni now but stydying wildly opposite subjects to what their perceived strengths were at school. DD1 was always the maths/science person and is studying Ancient History, has really blossomed into research and writing. DD2 was always the gifted essay writer in any subject, had to work hard for her science and maths grades and is now studying Marine Biology. Go figure. Comparison isn't just the thief of joy, it's complete bollocks.

Justilou1 · 03/11/2021 12:35

BOOK SOLUTION!!!!!

Handball that grenade back by telling him that she’s absolutely convinced that he’d committed himself to buying her the rest of the series, and it’s his job to sort that one out himself. 🤩

In the meantime, unless she actually swears, just talk about “the book series Dad bought you” and mention how great it is to see her enjoying reading.
If school brings it up show super teacher the text from Shitforbrains and let her know that you have discussed swearing but have been fucked over by idiot ex, and don’t want to discourage reluctant reader mid-book. (She will back you up if you explain that you have explained appropriateness/safety with your child and have encouraged open dialogue and questions, etc…)

mbosnz · 03/11/2021 12:39

DDs are both at same school. Both are very visible with mermaid-like, super-thick, long, blonde hair, blue eyes, etc… DD1 is Über-academic and poor DD2 (the girl twin) is a super hard worker, but she is creative - artistic, musical and funny (which of course doesn’t necessarily show on report cards, but I actually think she has the highest IQ and EQ of the three of them) can’t move without being compared to one or the other.

Justilou, that's uncanny, you've described my two, to a tee.

Justilou1 · 03/11/2021 12:45

@pointythings - you’re right about comparison. My batshit parents used it as a method to crush my self-esteem and I didn’t realise until just now that this was another example of psychological and emotional abuse. “Why can’t you be more like…?”… or “X is always…” or “How come H can do … and you can’t!” No wonder I have such a visceral, oppositional response when this happens to my kids! (Who knew I had an unconscious parenting manifesto on the subject?)

Justilou1 · 03/11/2021 12:47

@mbosnz

Justilou1 · 03/11/2021 12:48

Whoops! Mermaids are lovely daughters @mbosnz!!!

StuckInPollyannaMode · 03/11/2021 13:16

@Justilou1that's absolutely perfect! But...I just need to be able to drive it now...she's set on having a remote controlled one?!

Be easier to just buy a sodding Jaguar. For me.

How interesting on the twin thing. Mine are the other way round to what I thought when they were younger in terms of strengths. Maybe they will switch again several times just to fox me. I also try actively not to compare them, as I was compared so much to my brother growing up and just look at the mess I got myself into.

Love the idea of the series Grin and I'll definitely check out the Geek Girl series someone else mentioned. I think what I'll do is go to a bookshop and then I can actually see for myself.

New chap is cooking dinner for me tomorrow night...he is very VERY swoonsome, my friends. I'm not used to the no drama. He calls when he says he'll call, respects my boundaries, gives me space, is perfectly happy to accommodate my foibles, encourages me to go do things, and is both interesting and interested. As well as making me laugh like a drain, we have great sex. I fancy the pants off him. Is this what a healthy relationship is? I have almost no points of reference. I don't think my parents have a healthy relationship and my previous ones certainly aren't a model for the future. I don't want to fuck this one up! Not that I'm saying this is it for life, chances are it isn't, but we are having a lot of fun together and it is all in proportion and it is just so nice to be happy and secure.

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pointythings · 03/11/2021 13:24

Justilou1 I never compared them - they're individuals! It's so damaging, I'm sorry that happened to you.

Polly your new man sounds amazing. Enjoy. Carpe Diem and all that.

Justilou1 · 03/11/2021 13:36

@StuckInPollyannaMode - you have no foibles. You’re a doll!! You have been around dickheads who were insecure about themselves and knew how easily they could be eclipsed by you. This is why they worked so very hard to tarnish your very natural sparkle. That is never, ever going to happen again.

DartmoorDoughnut · 03/11/2021 14:41

I keep trying to post but life keeps getting in the way so just a quick one to say FUCK YOU to Geller. It sounds as if the dollies have his measure which is brilliant and loving the book choice.

I started work up at the boys school and the year 5s are playing Squid Game (without the whole pretending to kill each other) so I reckon a slightly sweary book isn’t too dramatic frankly. Although I am getting the impression that the school is a tad rough frankly and we’re looking into moving the boys so that might not be the best comparison!

New bloke sounds epically epic and I’m very jealous and happy for you

billy1966 · 03/11/2021 14:43

BOOK SOLUTION!!!!!

Handball that grenade back by telling him that she’s absolutely convinced that he’d committed himself to buying her the rest of the series, and it’s his job to sort that one out himself. 🤩
@Justilou1, love, love love this😂

Justilou1 · 03/11/2021 15:40

@StuckInPollyannaMode - my parents were a cross between Geller and your mum. I’m a lot older than you, and had the luxury of moving to the other side of the planet to get enough space to learn some tricks.

alterego2 · 03/11/2021 16:37

De-lurking to say that wowcher seem to have a deal on a remote controlled Jaguar I-pace atm. Roughly 1/2 price. Toy is by Brainlabs if you want to look for it elsewhere. Not sure it looks amazing - and is probably not the right model but may be worth a look.

frazzledasarock · 03/11/2021 16:37

Argos has a load of remote control cars but no Jaguar. Would a Range Rover do? 😆 they do remote control Lamborghinis and Ferraris as well.

Alternatively a little bit different from her request, what about Lego it’s not remote control but she could spend a good long while putting it together (which is fun).

pussycatlickinglollyices · 03/11/2021 17:32

@frazzledasarock

Argos has a load of remote control cars but no Jaguar. Would a Range Rover do? 😆 they do remote control Lamborghinis and Ferraris as well.

Alternatively a little bit different from her request, what about Lego it’s not remote control but she could spend a good long while putting it together (which is fun).

Aston Martin cars are designed by the same bloke that designs the Jags...Argos have and AM. 🤞
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