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Hand hold needed - call off engagement?

325 replies

blueblueelectricblue28 · 21/10/2021 11:43

I need some help and I don't know where to turn. I'll try and keep it as brief as possible. I've got tears streaming down my face writing this.

Both 30, together nearly 5 years, engaged 4 months. Wedding booked for next summer.

I've spent the last 4 days in tears after an incident at the weekend over Sunday pub lunch with friends - conversation was lively/people talking over each other a little, as can happen. I cut in as he opened his mouth (doesn't sound great written down but in the context of the group and conversation wasn't such a faux pas) and he said, loudly "will you LET ME SPEAK" to me. The whole table went silent and no one knew where to look. it was so humiliating. He also got into an argument with the staff as they needed the table back and he didn't want to move. When we got home I was so upset, this turned into an argument with him shouting at me to SHUT THE FUCK UP so I left the flat and walked around for a couple of hours holding back the tears. I just wanted to run away.

A week before we got engaged we were waiting for an Uber which was having difficulty finding us (due to roadworks) and I ordered it on my phone. He got impatient, snapped and said "stop being a cunt!". I spent the whole journey in the car frozen with fear and when I got home I went into the bedroom and squeezed myself into a small space between two bits of furniture where I felt safe and hidden. I can't explain that, it sounds like such a mad thing to do but I wanted to hide myself away in a small space and not come out. Less than a week later he proposed to me and I have to admit my gut feeling when I saw the ring was "its not right". I feel that I got so swept up with everyone else's celebrations and happiness around it I didn't check in with myself to ask if it was right for me. My parents had an unhappy marriage and I have had difficulty with my boundaries in the past. I've also stopped taking recreational drugs after several years so have revised a lot of my friendships with that in mind (I am so happy to be clean, but feel a bit more isolated because of it, so don't have as many people around me to lean on in the event of a break up TBH)

I could go on. He pushed me out of the room with both hands a few months ago too. Said it was my fault, I'd driven him to it (as I always seem to) He has quite hot headed and will often tell me to fuck off, shut up, raise his voice or slam doors when we argue. he did call me a cunt once before and I said I would leave if he spoke to me like that again... well I guess the joke's on me now.

We've had sex once in the 4 months we've been engaged, this has been a bone of contention for a couple of years as he just isn't interested in me (he's been stressed/tired/on AD's which I realise can be a problem but nothing's been done to fix it)
Sex has to be on his terms with both of us fully showered and at a time he wants it, it always follows the same pattern and feels quite formulaic. I've tried to suggest new things but he's refused. Usually happens about once every 2-4 weeks. I feel like I'm wasting away here, sex and intimacy is so important to me, and I long to share that with someone else.
I was abused sexually in the past so initially a partner who wasn't pestering me for sex all the time was quite refreshing but its become apparent it isn't right for me.

I know I need to leave but I lack the confidence to do it - finding somewhere new to live seems so daunting, living independently, starting over, dividing up our things, losing friends, not to mention the calling off of the wedding, letting guests know, cancelling suppliers etc. Additionally I feel so afraid of "losing face" as we have had so much love and excitement from people around the wedding and to rip the plaster off and deal with the inevitable upset and feelings of shame and failure feels terrifying.

He knows something is up and I am having doubts about the marriage. He's trying to make it better by booking us a weekend away, coming off AD's to kick start his libido but its just too little too late and I want out.
When I think of us separated, or him with someone else, I can't stop crying, we have had many happy memories aside from the bad times and he has helped me through some difficulties which have been painful, so I feel completely torn.
He earns much more than me so pays the majority of the rent and I see a psychotherapist once a week which he covers 50% of. I am worried about how this could change if we separate. She has been amazing and a real comfort to me.

Additionally, I have been talking to another man and getting close to him. He knows the situation and while I think he might be a red herring and I am not looking to be "saved" by another man, it has been a real eye opener to feel desired and wanted again by someone and to be validated that the current situation isn't right.

Downloaded the Lundy Bancroft book I see so often recommended on here and although I am finding it tough to read (as it makes it all "real") a lot of lights are turning on in my head.

Sorry for the extremely long post, I'd really welcome any thoughts and please be gentle with me, it's all such a mess and I'm really hurting.

OP posts:
SueblueNZ · 24/10/2021 05:16

As for what people might think about you cancelling the wedding - those who matter won't care, those who care don't matter.

DangoDays · 24/10/2021 05:35

Your post shows you have already done a lot of the thinking through in order to end this relationship.

It sounds like a major hurdle in ending things is people's reactions. If your friends are showing you love and happy for you in terms of your engagement then it would follow that they will show you love, compassion and be happy for you in leaving someone who is abusive. Good friends will want the best for you and support you. If you open up to your closest friends you are going to see that.

You sound like you don't want to unsettle, upset, be difficult, make noise even and be seen (am thinking about after the taxi incident). You deserve to live a fuller life than one when you fear existing round him. Imagine the freedom from all these thoughts which are plaguing you. You deserve so much more.

rainbowstardrops · 24/10/2021 06:12

I think you're doing absolutely the right thing by calling off the engagement. Good luck

GiantHaystacks2021 · 24/10/2021 06:20

Why would you marry someone who treats you like dogshit?
You're not going to find any sane person who would advise you to stay.
Bin this utter prick of a man.

blueblueelectricblue28 · 25/10/2021 19:28

I met up with my closest friend today and she has offered me her spare room for as long as I need it - she was so shocked to hear how things had been and she told me I need to get out immediately. I can't believe I was boiled slowly in hot water for so long and never realised.
Her husband poured me a whisky and was ready to go in and take me to get my things immediately but I was wary in case he came home from work early.
So we've agreed they will come and get me tomorrow (he's at work all day) and I'll pack in the morning then leave in the afternoon. I can't believe its really happening and I feel so scared but ultimately I know its for the best. I'm making a mental note of all the important things to take (passport, personal photos, possessions, sentimental things from my grandparents, etc) and I'll be packing them first thing in the morning. MNetters please hold my hand, I'm really scared and need one final push to get me through.

OP posts:
KatherineJaneway · 25/10/2021 20:04

Glad you're getting out OP Flowers

sallyanne33 · 25/10/2021 20:35

Yes! Wonderful news, that’s so great that you have such fabulous supportive friends. Stay strong, this next bit will be hard but you just have to get through it. Don’t worry about his feelings, how he will react etc etc, he treats you like crap and you don’t owe him anything. You are no one’s emotional punchbag. You are simply taking yourself out of punching distance. Gather your dignity, hold your head high and enjoy closing the door behind you on this awful relationship. If you ever have a wobble or start feeling guilty about leaving (you have nothing to feel guilty about) remember he brought this on himself.

Muchtoomuchtodo · 25/10/2021 20:48

Your friends sound amazing.
Your plan sounds perfect.
Hand hold coming your way from South Wales xx

Holothane · 25/10/2021 20:56

Hand hold from me as well. Hugs and more hugs lots of love and all the best.

JaniceBing · 25/10/2021 21:04

You are doing so amazingly OP, I know you are scared right now but you will feel bloody proud of yourself when you're on the other side. Sending all good vibes your way. Can't wait for you to be rid of this tosser. You deserve the best :) keep posting and let us know you're ok when you're out x

Foreystory · 25/10/2021 21:39

Good luck tomorrow op!

Remember any paperwork/account numbers on things you'll need to cancel.

Hopefully he won't cotton on.

curiouscat123 · 25/10/2021 22:33

Good luck and thank god for your amazing friends and family!

I just wanted to add here that I turned 30 this year and 3 days after my birthday my boyfriend of 6 years and I broke up – and it's the BEST thing that could have happened. Our relationship was toxic and draining at times and I stayed for far too long.

But single life at 30 has turned out to be absolutely nothing to worry about, and in fact, I feel so blessed to now have the beauty of hindsight to know exactly what I do and don't want from future relationships. Honestly, single life is so liberating and empowering at this age, but I think this gets lost in the rhetoric 'you should be married and with kids in your early 30s'.

I know it won't feel like it now, but there is light at the end of the tunnel...

A friend of mine who is also 30 has recently called off her wedding too, and she is doing great too.

From one strong independent 30 year old to another, you've got this Flowers (and once you're ready, go out and enjoy everything London has to offer!)

Martyitsyourkids · 25/10/2021 22:48

You can do this. Your friends and family sound v. Supportive x

blueblueelectricblue28 · 25/10/2021 23:18

Oh god I can’t sleep, he’s sleeping away next to be oblivious and I’m close to tears, I can’t imagine what it will be like for him to come home and find all my things gone. It’s ridiculous and should not be a consideration after what he’s done to me. But I’m worried he will do something stupid (I think this is partially a hang up from my father, who would threaten to end his life a lot)
Tomorrow is going to be rough and I don’t want to cause pain, I just want to get out quickly and dignifiedly. Do you think I should leave a note? I won’t tell him where I’m going. But I do want to give an explanation.

OP posts:
User17273637373 · 25/10/2021 23:24

I have no words of wisdom but just read your last post.

It’s going to be different but you will be much, much happier. Sounds like you have a fab supportive network around you and you’re going to be fine!

I hope it all goes well, you’re much stronger than you think x

aLittleL1fe · 25/10/2021 23:31

It feels scary because it is scary. Leaving an abusive relationship is a dangerous time and you're right to recognise it and be cautious. Remind yourself that tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life, life where you won't have to be scared again. Try and be with your friends as much as you can, and make sure you're not contactable. If you decide to leave a note I'd keep it ultra short and neutral. Such as 'Good bye. All the best, Blue.'

DFOD · 25/10/2021 23:45

I agree about the note. Short simple non inflammatory. He knows. You’ve “discussed” it loads.

If he threatens to self harm all DV agencies advise that you call the police to do a welfare check on him - if he’s bluffing / controlling he will be shamed to drop it - if it’s real professionals will step in. Nothing to do with you.

You are doing the right thing. Well done for speaking to friends and family. If he harasses or stalks you (look up the legal definition - it’s v minimal) - ask him to stop once and then inform the police. Block his phone and email.

You need some emotional space and distance. You don’t owe him any more of your time, energy, explanation.

Know that the most dangerous time for a woman is when she leaves an abusive relationship. Don’t underestimate this.

Keep working with your therapist for as long as you can during this period.

IAAP · 25/10/2021 23:52

Make sure you check the loft, redirect post, take everything including from the garage or shed. Change your passwords on everything from email, to Netflix to Tesco account. Ask him to go through your brother for anything practical that he wants sorted eg bank account. Delete him, his family, friends off all sm. cut off the bloody supplies to the horrible relationship you are in.

IAAP · 25/10/2021 23:53

Take copies of any photos or paperwork you think you might need, Christmas decorations etc please redirect all post immediately - you can do it online

chaosrabbitland · 25/10/2021 23:58

you have got to get out of this , it will be so much harder if you stay and have children with him and then decide to leave .

HazelBite · 26/10/2021 00:13

Good luck OP for tomorrow, I'm sure with the support of your family and friends you will be fine. Just look forward to your wonderful new life Flowers

skodadoda · 26/10/2021 00:16

@blueblueelectricblue28

Oh god I can’t sleep, he’s sleeping away next to be oblivious and I’m close to tears, I can’t imagine what it will be like for him to come home and find all my things gone. It’s ridiculous and should not be a consideration after what he’s done to me. But I’m worried he will do something stupid (I think this is partially a hang up from my father, who would threaten to end his life a lot) Tomorrow is going to be rough and I don’t want to cause pain, I just want to get out quickly and dignifiedly. Do you think I should leave a note? I won’t tell him where I’m going. But I do want to give an explanation.
I would say don’t leave a note because whatever you say he will try to argue against you.. Stay strong..
PennineWayinSlingbacks · 26/10/2021 00:19

I spent the whole journey in the car frozen with fear and when I got home I went into the bedroom and squeezed myself into a small space between two bits of furniture where I felt safe and hidden

If you feel a wobble, remember what you said in your first post; thats how he made you feel. You deserve much better, the only person you need to think about is you.

Iflyaway · 26/10/2021 00:34

Please do NOT marry an abusive man! He sounds absolutely awful.
Your life with him can only get worse.

Everything else, the marriage etc. is just some kind of radio interference.

No way you have to go through with it.

Thank god you have reached out to MN.

Life is so much better when you reconnect with your inner self.

Nobody needs a man around to have a fabulous life. In fact, it WILL be fabulous when you dump shit like this.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 26/10/2021 00:40

You can leave a note but it must be factual. "I have left you. Do not contact me"
Give your phone to your friend and let her filter what's important (not him).

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