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Should I tell his gf about us?

202 replies

Throwback24 · 14/10/2021 23:29

Okay to avoid drip feed here is the background context:

Me and guy, call him Dan, met in college and had a thing together. I found out he had a gf at the time and demanded he told her he was playing us both otherwise I would. Apparently he "did it", said I ruined his relationship asked if I was happy with myself blah blah. Move on to sometime later he broke up with her started pestering me, I fell for it out of curiosity and we became a fwbs. This went on for years after college until he eventually got a proper girlfriend, call her Sarah. Me and Dan ended on bad terms and I cut him out from my life.

A couple of years later Dan popped back up on the scene and started talking to me briefly and asked me if I wanted to come down to his university house even though he was still with Sarah. I was fuming that so much time had passed and he was yet still the same sleazy guy, he quickly tried to retract his statement and we stopped talking.

Which brings us to the present - so throughout the past two years Dan has been adamant on trying to get back into my life. Sending friend requests on everything, pretending to be someone else through a friends social media account to talk to me, ringing on private number. Eventually very recently I gave in as I wanted to know what he was being so persistent about. We got to talking and he tried to apologise for the way things went down in the past. I had planned to just hear him out then block him but surprisingly we both have really nice conversations and to be honest I enjoy it. He is still with sarah. Both me and sarah have a mutual best friend Emily. So here is the thing. Me and Dan have been talking and he has been asking lots of do you think we could of been a thing, did you ever feel something questions. Which I guess is fine as I did ask him if he ever liked me out of genuine curiosity. But he is also very flirty, lots of I know you are still crushing on me ect comments. I let it go over my head and dont entertain it. I asked him if Sarah knew we were chatting and he said he would tell her. He still hasnt. He has now suddenly changed his tune and said he doesnt want to tell her incase she gets the wrong end of the stick, but he will eventually. In the meantime he has asked (the cheek of him!) That I keep it a secret. The deja vu is real.

I wonder if and keep going on back on forth as to whether our conversations are inappropriate or not. I think the thing that makes me feel like they are is because A.) He hasnt told his gf and B.) He has moved far away and is in a ldr with her and constantly goes on about how lonely he is and how he is doubting things. But that he is happily in love with her and they are going strong (confusing much)

So my issue is I'm due to see Emily this weekend and I'm in two minds as to whether I should tell her or not. Part of me thinks no because I dont want to be involved in any drama, ther other reason is I could tell her and nothing could come of it. I have a strong feeling sarah knows what Dan is like and will do nothing about it so all it will do is hurt her. The other part of me thinks I should because obviously this is abit wrong (the not so subtle flirting) and I dont owe him anything to be keeping secrets.

What do you think I should do? Sorry for the long read but thanks if you have got this far!

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SameToo · 15/10/2021 06:21

Jesus. So he basically stalks you until you give in and you think that’s nice? I would suggest you cut him off forever and get some counselling.

Left · 15/10/2021 06:46

Things can be tough and isolating with a new baby, do you have enough support?

Aprilx · 15/10/2021 07:30

You could deal with this very very easily if only you wanted to.

Bluntness100 · 15/10/2021 07:34

You sound like you love drama. Just stop talking to him instead of engaging then dreaming up ways to cause as much drama as you can

LadyGAgain · 15/10/2021 07:52

You're both idiots. Just cut him out. Step away from the drama. Grow up.

yikesanotherbooboo · 15/10/2021 08:12

Don't tell his girlfriend and don't speak to him again.

MyOtherProfile · 15/10/2021 08:17

Dan is a sleaze. I can think of only one reason why you would keep talking to him.

If Emily asks I would answer honestly. Unless you have something to hide? It's not your problem if he is trying to keep you secret.

Tal45 · 15/10/2021 08:23

Have you told your boyfriend that he's flirting with you and saying things like you're still crushing on him and could you ever have been a thing? Guessing not because you know full well he wouldn't just be 'so??' about that.
I think you and Dan are made for each other to be honest, you both love all the drama, angst and game playing, just do you bf a big favour and end things with him before you get any more involved in this childish crap.

SmileyClare · 15/10/2021 08:23

Stop poking at this hornets best.

Just in case you didn't notice the other posts; stop entertaining him, leave Emily out of it, have some respect for his girlfriend.

It can be lonely as a new mum. Try to find some mum and baby groups and some real friends to talk to x

ILoveJamaica · 15/10/2021 08:24

Meet him for sex.

Then he will ghost you.

If you tell Sarah, he will say you are a crazy chick from his past.

Job done.

NelsonMandelaHouse · 15/10/2021 08:29

What are you even doing talking to this bloke when you know what he's like?

Ginger1982 · 15/10/2021 08:40

How would you feel if your boyfriend was talking to a woman he had previously been fwbs with and she was constantly making flirty comments to him? Would you be ok with it?

Throwback24 · 15/10/2021 09:04

@LorenzoVonMatterhorn that's how I see things. All these posts saying
I like him
He wont leave his girl for me
I'm flirting
No, no and NO! The conversation is only mutual on my part. I was being true when I say I cringe when he drops the random flirtatious line but that's it. 99 percent of our conversation is literally just chatting about random stuff and catching up.

Personally I dont feel like me talking to him is that bad because I'm not an ex, we never loved each other and it has been over 7 years! People can rekindle and chat and it doesnt have to mean anything. I'm not throwing away my family either, I will tell my partner tonight and if he feels its inappropriate i will stop talking to him. It's not that important to me.

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Cheeseontoastwithchopsauce · 15/10/2021 09:06

I'm sure you have other friends for 'harmless chit chat'
You're enjoying the attention even though you know he's a sleazy turd
You don't need to tell her
Just delete, block etc etc
Stop revelling in it and grow up

Throwback24 · 15/10/2021 09:13

@Cheeseontoastwithchopsauce we talk at around 12 to 2 in the morning. No one I know is up by then. I'm dealing with abit of insomnia at the moment and it can be very lonely and stressful. It was just nice to have someone to talk to that took my mind off that rather than being up alone.

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SmileyClare · 15/10/2021 09:18

I think you're being naive if you don't see how this is inappropriate and disrespectful of your partner and his girlfriend.

He's consistently used you in the past. You've been his bit on the side. He's now flirting with you.

You are basically being used to massage his ego at the moment. Yuk. I actually think you sound quite unhappy and lonely at the moment. Being a new mum can be tough.

Talking to him for hours in the night is not your answer.

Cheeseontoastwithchopsauce · 15/10/2021 09:19

[quote Throwback24]@Cheeseontoastwithchopsauce we talk at around 12 to 2 in the morning. No one I know is up by then. I'm dealing with abit of insomnia at the moment and it can be very lonely and stressful. It was just nice to have someone to talk to that took my mind off that rather than being up alone.[/quote]
I have insomnia
I read or watch Netflix
You're just making excuses
Most of us have said the same thing
Bit of a pointless post really wasn't it as you don't seem to be taking any advice that's been given Confused

Cheeseontoastwithchopsauce · 15/10/2021 09:22

[quote Throwback24]@LorenzoVonMatterhorn that's how I see things. All these posts saying
I like him
He wont leave his girl for me
I'm flirting
No, no and NO! The conversation is only mutual on my part. I was being true when I say I cringe when he drops the random flirtatious line but that's it. 99 percent of our conversation is literally just chatting about random stuff and catching up.

Personally I dont feel like me talking to him is that bad because I'm not an ex, we never loved each other and it has been over 7 years! People can rekindle and chat and it doesnt have to mean anything. I'm not throwing away my family either, I will tell my partner tonight and if he feels its inappropriate i will stop talking to him. It's not that important to me.[/quote]
YOU need to feel it's innapropriate not your partner
Don't put it on him

TheChip · 15/10/2021 09:23

I kind of understand. I've been in a position of where I was just enjoying the friendship, but they were being flirtatious. He is basically disrespecting you and pushing your boundaries. He knows you're not interested like that(I hope), and he knows you have a boyfriend. A friend wouldnt do that.
It took a while for me to realise that too. I was single though. I dont think I'd of continued if I was with someone out of respect for my partner.

If your partner was to read the messages, how do you think he would react?

Gonnagetgoing · 15/10/2021 09:26

Dan is a game playing idiot and you’re not being much better by communicating with him especially as you’re now in a relationship and have had a baby.

You owe Dan nothing and then if I were you I’d block and let him carry on his way.

WhoWearsShortShorts · 15/10/2021 09:27

Show your partner the messages you've been sending to this other man and let him decide if he's OK with it. Nobody I know would be OK with what you're doing. If you're lonely then lean into your partner for support, don't turn to some rando

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/10/2021 09:33

All a bit embarrassing isn’t it. Do you have low self esteem? Considering someone so stalkery and gross a friend doesn’t say much about how you see yourself.

Maybe take up reading or hang around on here at night. It’s international, MN never sleeps. And stop making excuses.

NormallyFairlyLevelHeaded · 15/10/2021 09:35

Oh for god's sake grow up.

Throwback24 · 15/10/2021 09:35

@WhoWearsShortShorts gladly! I have nothing to hide. I have no being reciprocating anything so I'm not worried that my partner will be upset. I cant stop Dan from dropping his one liners here and there but I dont engage and the conversation always just moves swiftly along.

@Cheeseontoastwithchopsauce that's great for you Hmm I do too but my mind has been heavy with alot of things that have happened to me recently which has caused the insomnia and Netflix doesnt help take my mind off it. Everyone is different and what works for some may not work for none. I'm not saying this guy is the solution by any means but when we do talk it is only "nice" in the sense that I'm not just staying up staring at a wall.

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tootootaataa · 15/10/2021 09:36

Oh my goodness. Woman up. Get some self respect. Block block block. Why are you seeking his approval? I am amazed you can see him under all the red flags. You are a play thing for him. Walk away.