My DH is obsessed with the New World Order

Electri · 2021-09-29T18:29:30+00:00

I need help. He's bought thousands of pounds worth of equipment - including a machete, an axe, a crossbow and a pellet gun. If he could buy a real gun legally in England he would. I wouldn't be surprised if he bought one illegally. He's obsessed with the banking industry collapsing, the internet being taken out and power going down. He says the masses aren't prepared because they trust the government too much. He doesn't talk about anything else. He watches videos all day long on how to "prepare" for what's to come. And stuff from the world economic forum/ mark moss. He keeps taking about people being shot in Australia and how that will come over here soon. WWYD?

MargosKaftan · 29/09/2021 19:33

It sounds like he's having a mental health crisis. I would contact my GP, but perhaps more knowledgeable MNers will come along and advise if there's somewhere else you should be turning for help first.

Does he work? If he has nothing else to keep him busy, its easy to get obsessed with something.

spotcheck · 29/09/2021 19:38

I keep seeing stuff on the World Economic Forum.

What do people think they will do?

Haggisfish3 · 29/09/2021 19:38

Honestly? I’d leave.

MiddlesexGirl · 29/09/2021 19:39

I would leave with all that weaponry in the house.

Libertaire · 29/09/2021 19:42

If he’s hoarding weapons, there is likely to be a serious problem. Could you arrange for someone to anonymously inform the police about this and that he may represent a threat to public safety?

Nightbringer · 29/09/2021 19:43

Honestly, havibf had a dh that turned from a decent bloke, to this and then I to and abusive controlling cunt.....I would leave.

I didn't then had to flee and slept on a sofa with my kids for 9 months until I got a home sorted

4 and a half years on, he is still at it. Sending messages about how everyone is going to revolt and we all need to be prepared. How I need to shock pile water and food, not have vaccines. My eldest no longer speaks to him because he tried to ban her from having the vaccine and told her she would be dead within months.

Its a mess and it's left its mark on all of us.

MurielSpriggs · 29/09/2021 19:44

Very sorry to hear this @Electri, that's really difficult for you.

In a similar situation a few years ago I wrote to the GP of the person concerned, rather than phoning, and specially mentioned the weapons and the paranoia. I said that they posed a risk to themselves and others (which I think is fair enough for anyone armed to the teeth and with a slender grasp on reality). My theory was that the GP would want to act urgently in case anything did go wrong and there was a letter clearly setting all this out addressed to them. Anyway, it worked, and there was a visit from the mental-health crisis team within hours.

peanutbutterandbananas · 29/09/2021 19:49

I'm really worried for you. Are there children at home? I think I'd call the police for advice or urgent mental health services. I hope you have support

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Electri · 29/09/2021 19:59

Thank you.

No there are no kids involved.

He does work, from home. So he has more time on his hands; he was previously in a very busy and hands on job.

He's bought some army standard heat lamps and he's trying to persuade me to turn off all the lights to see how they work. I'm trying to relax in the front room on MN and watching TV after a busy shift.

I actually can't believe I'm writing this.

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Electri · 29/09/2021 20:00

I feel like I can't tell anyone about this. I'm so embarrassed, but also worried about him.

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Sparklfairy · 29/09/2021 20:03

Have you posted about him before? The crossbow in particular rings a bell.

BrendaBubbles · 29/09/2021 20:04

It depends to what extent he has gone. I do think people need to be more prepared for some serious problems in the next few years like food and fuel shortages but it shouldn’t be taking up more than a small portion of his time. I bought tons of food and household essentials in February 2020 and it was hugely beneficial when lockdown occurred so I am mildly sympathetic at least.

coodawoodashooda · 29/09/2021 20:04

@Nightbringer

Honestly, havibf had a dh that turned from a decent bloke, to this and then I to and abusive controlling cunt.....I would leave.

I didn't then had to flee and slept on a sofa with my kids for 9 months until I got a home sorted

4 and a half years on, he is still at it. Sending messages about how everyone is going to revolt and we all need to be prepared. How I need to shock pile water and food, not have vaccines. My eldest no longer speaks to him because he tried to ban her from having the vaccine and told her she would be dead within months.

Its a mess and it's left its mark on all of us.

Snap.

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Electri · 29/09/2021 20:04

I haven't Spark but I'm not surprised to hear it's been posted about before. He has made many "friends" who are doing the same. :(

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Electri · 29/09/2021 20:06

Brenda yes. He did the food thing too. But he's still doing it and he's taken it way too far. I think? Maybe I'm wrong.
We have cupboards full of tinned food, tents, sleeping bags etc.

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Thestreets · 29/09/2021 20:07

Honestly? I would leave. It won't get any better. I had a thread on here about my sister who sounds exactly like your DH. I tried to change the subject every time she brought it up but it just got worse. I have been no contact now for 3 months and as much as it hurts it was the only way.

I can only imagine how hard it is to live with it. I'm sorry OP.

Hawkins001 · 29/09/2021 20:08

It sounds like the equipment is tending towards the prepper perspectives, research doomsday preppers series, ect,

as for trusting elements of the government, you only have to consider the various secret operations that happen and e.g. Operation Northwoods ect to understand why some people don't always trust the government.

Thatsplentyjack · 29/09/2021 20:08

I would definitely leave. This is likely going to get worse and he will start trying to ontrol you and as a pp said it could become abusive.

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TrueRefuge · 29/09/2021 20:11

Gosh OP, sorry, this sounds very stressful. How does he react when you try and have a reasoned conversation with him about this, and your concerns?
Unless he gets some mental health support and can acknowledge he's had a break from reality, I don't see this relationship working. Having that many weapons in the house is unnerving anyway, least of all with someone who's grasp on reality seems tenuous at best....

I'd be contacting GP as others have said.

I don't know if you saw the story in the US (I believe) earlier this year, of a man who abducted his little children and shot them with a crossbow as his wife had had the vaccine and he believed they were now "infected"/microchipped and spying via the government. Not so scaremonger, but this is important to know and realise it does happen to people.

Not that you are, but please don't bury your head in the sand. First of all, make a safety plan, get some money and key documents together and a grab-bag with the essentials. Then tell some trusted people (just one or two if it feels hard), and tell your GP.

If my friend or family member came to me with this information, they would be invited round to stay as long as they needed. There would be no judgment. He needs mental health support, but without this will not end well.

PersonaNonGarter · 29/09/2021 20:11

OP, it sounds as thought this might have been brought on by the change in job. Did he get fired?

Often these people are sucked into conspiracy theories because they are insecure, and this gives them a sense of insider power and knowledge. They also need order and the idea that things are coordinated by bad people makes more sense to them than just random bad stuff happening. And it gives an enemy, so they can feel brave and prepared.

Obviously, it is all pish but you need to get therapy for the root cause.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 29/09/2021 20:15

He's hoarding weapons and has set himself up in an echo chamber, presumably with likeminded people online, so he wont to sense check any information he's getting - he will just be working on confirmation bias now so he will spiral into these views becoming more entrenched.

If he was hoarding weapons for any other reason, would you feel comfortable staying with him? I absolutely wouldn't. It would be madness.

Try to read your words back, objectively, and imagine you had a daughter or niece saying this about their partner:

He's bought thousands of pounds worth of equipment - including a machete, an axe, a crossbow and a pellet gun. If he could buy a real gun legally in England he would. I wouldn't be surprised if he bought one illegally.

What would you tell her to do? Do that.

If he's having a mental health crisis then yes he would benefit from professional support but that isn't your job, it's vanishingly unlikely he will engage willingly and you shouldn't have to do anything at the expense of your own safety.

A house where there are weapons and someone who isn't behaving rationally is not a safe place to be.

Women are not rehabilitation centres for men and you need to put your own life jacket on first.

I would leave, be somewhere safe and if you think you need to, call his GP surgery or the police for a welfare check. But he's unlikely to engage willingly and likely to be angry / see it as confirmation 'the system' is against him etc so I wouldn't want to do that while still in a relationship with him.

forumdonkey · 29/09/2021 20:20

It sounds awful for you. I wouldn't be happy with all the weapons in the house. Are you afraid of him? Are you allowed to challenge his purchases, beliefs etc?

PunishmentSnart · 29/09/2021 20:22

@TrueRefuge

Gosh OP, sorry, this sounds very stressful. How does he react when you try and have a reasoned conversation with him about this, and your concerns? Unless he gets some mental health support and can acknowledge he's had a break from reality, I don't see this relationship working. Having that many weapons in the house is unnerving anyway, least of all with someone who's grasp on reality seems tenuous at best....

I'd be contacting GP as others have said.

I don't know if you saw the story in the US (I believe) earlier this year, of a man who abducted his little children and shot them with a crossbow as his wife had had the vaccine and he believed they were now "infected"/microchipped and spying via the government. Not so scaremonger, but this is important to know and realise it does happen to people.

Not that you are, but please don't bury your head in the sand. First of all, make a safety plan, get some money and key documents together and a grab-bag with the essentials. Then tell some trusted people (just one or two if it feels hard), and tell your GP.

If my friend or family member came to me with this information, they would be invited round to stay as long as they needed. There would be no judgment. He needs mental health support, but without this will not end well.

Don’t want to scare you, but this came to mind for me too.

I would contact emergency services as soon as you can. They are completely overrun though with everything thats going on exacerbating waiting lists.

Keep yourself safe. Leave.

bumpertobumper · 29/09/2021 20:25

There was a woman interviewed in Women's Hour (radio 4) on Monday - her husband became so obsessed with covid conspiracy theories that their marriage broke up.
It sounds similar to what you describe, but without the weapons!

You ask WWYD... I'd leave