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My DH is obsessed with the New World Order

237 replies

Electri · 29/09/2021 19:29

I need help.

He's bought thousands of pounds worth of equipment - including a machete, an axe, a crossbow and a pellet gun. If he could buy a real gun legally in England he would. I wouldn't be surprised if he bought one illegally.

He's obsessed with the banking industry collapsing, the internet being taken out and power going down. He says the masses aren't prepared because they trust the government too much.

He doesn't talk about anything else. He watches videos all day long on how to "prepare" for what's to come. And stuff from the world economic forum/ mark moss.

He keeps taking about people being shot in Australia and how that will come over here soon.

WWYD?

OP posts:
ElectricDeChocobo · 30/09/2021 18:38

@user1481840227

Just to add, obsessions on BOTH sides caused problems. Obviously living with a doomsdayer would be a nightmare, but on the other side there was the severely anxious who didn't want their partners to go out and do x or y as restrictions were lifted out of fear.

Please note, I am not talking about the people who were really vulnerable, but the people who were not vulnerable who got caught up in all of the worry and fear!

Most people worried about Covid aren't going out and buying crossbows.
user1481840227 · 30/09/2021 19:09

@ElectricDeChocobo
That doesn't mean that their fears and worries are less extreme! or that their beliefs and paranoia aren't affecting their lives (and that of their loved ones as much)
It just means they don't think they might need a crossbow in future. If they thought that a crossbow could protect against covid and allow their survival they'd probably have loads!

ElectricDeChocobo · 30/09/2021 19:15

[quote user1481840227]@ElectricDeChocobo
That doesn't mean that their fears and worries are less extreme! or that their beliefs and paranoia aren't affecting their lives (and that of their loved ones as much)
It just means they don't think they might need a crossbow in future. If they thought that a crossbow could protect against covid and allow their survival they'd probably have loads![/quote]
I'd say stockpiling weapons is more extreme that cleaning groceries. Definitely more worrying.

Nancydrawn · 30/09/2021 19:21

OP, if you're worried about your husband becoming a conspiracy theorist, I recommend listening to the Rabbithole podcast from the New York Times--all about how algorithms have shaped us and how (some people) are getting out.

The QAnonCasualties reddit board can be eye-opening too; as Q has gone quiet, a lot of their conspiracy theorists have moved on to vaccine conspiracies (clarifying, at least for me, how much of this is a mindset vs how much is an actual, specific fear).

If you ever fear for your safety, the most important thing is to follow the steps that others have outlined above.

Does he think you believe these things too? And if you ever push back against them, what happens?

Nancydrawn · 30/09/2021 19:22

This is not saying that you should push back against them! Please make sure that you don't experiment and make yourself unsafe. It's just a question about whether he enjoys debate or shuts it down, in the past.

user1481840227 · 30/09/2021 19:33

@ElectricDeChocobo

The 2 groups have different fears and are worrying about different outcomes so the actions of what they do to prepare will be obviously different Confused

As I said the extremists would be buying crossbows if they believed it would protect them from the virus, but a crossbow is no good against covid!

If I had someone close to me who bought some weapons just in case but aside from that was functioning normally (as many people do) and I also had someone close to me obsessively cleaning groceries and not functioning normally then I'd be worried about the grocery cleaner a lot more.

Marjoriedrawers · 30/09/2021 19:45

[quote user1481840227]@ElectricDeChocobo

The 2 groups have different fears and are worrying about different outcomes so the actions of what they do to prepare will be obviously different Confused

As I said the extremists would be buying crossbows if they believed it would protect them from the virus, but a crossbow is no good against covid!

If I had someone close to me who bought some weapons just in case but aside from that was functioning normally (as many people do) and I also had someone close to me obsessively cleaning groceries and not functioning normally then I'd be worried about the grocery cleaner a lot more.[/quote]
I'd be more concerned about the crossbow and the reasoning for needing one myself.

user1481840227 · 30/09/2021 20:01

@Marjoriedrawers, Well we are all different but I'd be looking at the overall picture of behaviour

ElectricDeChocobo · 30/09/2021 20:51

I don't think anyone's ever killed anyone cleaning groceries. But if user12whatever would rather live in a house with someone who is paranoid and has a load of weapons that with someone who wears a mask on the train then each to their own.

UsedUpUsername · 30/09/2021 20:53

@MilesOfSand

Sounds more like an expensive hobby with this update tbh

Oh yeah, completely normal hobby. Just like the other men on MN with their bikes and golf etc. Totally nothing to worry about. I mean the OP should just make sure she has equal time and money for pursuing her radicalised hobbies and everything should be great. Maybe a spa trip or two thrown in after a hard evening of planning uprisings.

I mean, haven’t you read stuff on MN about annoying male cyclists? I certainly have
Yummymummy2020 · 30/09/2021 20:55

He sounds unwell op, I would worry about the weapons.

user1481840227 · 30/09/2021 21:38

@ElectricDeChocobo

I don't think anyone's ever killed anyone cleaning groceries. But if user12whatever would rather live in a house with someone who is paranoid and has a load of weapons that with someone who wears a mask on the train then each to their own.
I already said I wouldn't live with a doomsdayer. I wouldn't live with someone who was equally obsessed with the pandemic either to the point that it affected their every plan.
UsedUpUsername · 30/09/2021 22:24

He's obsessed with the banking industry collapsing, the internet being taken out and power going down. He says the masses aren't prepared because they trust the government too much

Another issue is what he will do when it’s clear none of this is likely to happen. West civ will likely limp on for many more years so will he let go of this obsession or double down?

Honestly if u know him and never had a reason to feel unsafe then the weaponry shouldn’t be a problem but then again I do come from a country where having guns/hunting gear at home is no big deal (people know how to use them and store them safely). So I do see this in a different way than most posters here

Hawkins001 · 30/09/2021 22:30

The banking industry did cause a quite a pickle 2008 era with the whole sub prime mortgage lending

Eechuffingnuff · 30/09/2021 22:45

Have recently had a relative sectioned, and although it was for different reasons, their thinking was similarly disordered. They have been sectioned more for 3 months now and it is ongoing.

I think this would be taken very seriously. Don't underestimate how much you are normalising and how much strain this is putting on you. Do you feel relaxed at home? Do you worry what might make him snap? What happens if you argue? Do you feel comfortable bringing friends home? Is this something you share with your friends and relatives? Is it a secret?

JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 30/09/2021 22:45

@Hawkins001

The banking industry did cause a quite a pickle 2008 era with the whole sub prime mortgage lending
That's called greed. Not a conspiracy
Spongeboob · 30/09/2021 22:54

£300? Like a compound crossbow? Jesus. I'd be scared to handle that. You can't legally hunt with a crossbow, do you have access to land he could use to shoot the kind of distance those ones can reach? My little one could easily be lethal in the wrong hands but that is a whole different level.

Marjoriedrawers · 30/09/2021 23:07

@Spongeboob

£300? Like a compound crossbow? Jesus. I'd be scared to handle that. You can't legally hunt with a crossbow, do you have access to land he could use to shoot the kind of distance those ones can reach? My little one could easily be lethal in the wrong hands but that is a whole different level.
Scary isn't it? I can't believe OP is so at ease about that. Totally illegal.
Itsnotallaboutyoubaby · 01/10/2021 00:42

I don’t like the sound of the crossbow to be honest.

milkyaqua · 01/10/2021 01:55

He keeps taking about people being shot in Australia and how that will come over here soon.

I was mystified by this. Turns out police used rubber bullets, as well as pepper spray, foam batons and smoke bombs in an effort to disperse angry protesters, who were violent and out of control, in Melbourne recently. Then some Farcebook posts have done the rounds, claiming one man was shot and had died, using a photo of him lying on the ground covered in blood...

Turns out he was not in fact injured by the police:

"But while Mr Mitchell had attended the protests, he confirmed on Facebook that he was alive and that his injuries were not sustained in an incident involving police. Rather, they were the result of an "altercation with a store owner".

The Daily Mail further reported that Mr Mitchell's friends and other witnesses said he had attempted to steal from a bottle shop and was "glassed" in an ensuing scuffle.

Meanwhile, a number of graphic photos allegedly showing wounds suffered by the protesters were found by fact checkers at Lead Stories to be unrelated to the Melbourne rallies.

The three photos analysed were all years old and had originated in Buenos Aires, and the US cities of Ferguson, in Missouri, and Louisville, Kentucky."

A few more theories also dispelled here:
www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-01/coronacheck-martin-foley-vaccination-gaffe/100504420

mathanxiety · 01/10/2021 04:11

@teaorwine, yes the OP's deluded H is forty years too late for his panic.

He keeps taking about people being shot in Australia and how that will come over here soon.
Dear oh dear oh dear..

mathanxiety · 01/10/2021 04:17

Do people here honestly not see the difference between stocking up on tins of beans and tuna, spaghetti, rice, aspirin, bottled water, tampons, and bog roll, and buying a crossbow?

UsedUpUsername · 01/10/2021 04:41

@mathanxiety

Do people here honestly not see the difference between stocking up on tins of beans and tuna, spaghetti, rice, aspirin, bottled water, tampons, and bog roll, and buying a crossbow?
It’s not the crossbow OP is worried about, though. It’s his beliefs about the future, which are very unlikely to happen. She knows she’s not going to be able to change it either
Nightbringer · 01/10/2021 04:43

Scary isn't it? I can't believe OP is so at ease about that. Totally illegal.

Its actually not illegal to own a Crossbow in the UK. There are some rules but they seem really sketchy. Pretty much that's Its illegal to use, in most situations but legal to own.

I used to be part of a knife and axe throwing club. They would get several enquiries a week on wether they allowed compound crossbows. They didn't, but there seemed to be a lot of people who owned them and didn't have anywhere to use them.

Marjoriedrawers · 01/10/2021 08:19

there seemed to be a lot of people who owned them and didn't have anywhere to use them.

All the more pointless owning one then really.