My DH is obsessed with the New World Order

[Electri]

I need help.

He's bought thousands of pounds worth of equipment - including a machete, an axe, a crossbow and a pellet gun. If he could buy a real gun legally in England he would. I wouldn't be surprised if he bought one illegally.

He's obsessed with the banking industry collapsing, the internet being taken out and power going down. He says the masses aren't prepared because they trust the government too much.

He doesn't talk about anything else. He watches videos all day long on how to "prepare" for what's to come. And stuff from the world economic forum/ mark moss.

He keeps taking about people being shot in Australia and how that will come over here soon.

WWYD?

I’ve got an inner prepper, if I had the means and resources I’d have a sustainable underground lair somewhere to house, feed and clean a small army (family and friends) realistically if I even look at an extra bag of pasta my hubby laughs and says no and that’s the end of it.

Like others I’m open to a good conspiracy if it’s logical but some theories are nuts. Don’t think it’s necessarily bad to be prepared for emergencies, things have been a bit crazy... but not at the expense of your relationship and his MH. It’s obviously not lighthearted prepping for a rainy day. What does he intend to do with the crossbow and machete? Are these for personal protection? Hunting for food? Is he realistically going to us them and for what use. The weapons would worry me and the fact it’s taking over your lives and consuming him. Maybe try the Samaritans or something, they might be able to refer you to somewhere that can offer solid advice on how to tackle this.

@Hen2018

On reflection, I would write/email your GP practice and the police in case your husband applies for a shotgun licence.

A pellet gun is nothing. You might sting someone a bit. You don’t want him to be able to access anything decent.

I think the crossbow and axe more than make up for a useless pellet gun.

I would report him (or get someone else to report him) to the Prevent programme. And yes, consider carefully if you are safe with this man, the hoarding of weapons is definitely alarming to me.

It’s the weapons that worry me. I think you should leave and get him some help

I am finding it so worrying how many people are becoming paranoid like this. My SIL is like this...talking about how before Christmas, the banks are all going to shut down on us...and how the NWO is taking over.

She's a frigging nutcase and she keeps talking to my DH about it all....DH has had serious depression in the past and this is the last thing he needs. Luckily, DH is not currently listening to her but I am MAD about it as he's vulnerable.

MIL is no better, not wearing a mask and wittering on about her fucking rights.

Sorry OP I agree with those saying he needs help. Possibly sectioning.

I'm in Australia. Life is fairly normal over here. Just in case anyone was wondering...

Can you afford this? If he is very wealthy and prepping is a hobby then I would probably leave him to it, if you can stand to listen to his drivel. But if that money could be better spent on other things then I would probably leave. I've had my savings account drained by an idiot partner once before, and I swore I would never let it happen again.

and the weapons ?
frankly, i think the expense is the least of OP's worries.

He keeps taking about people being shot in Australia and how that will come over here soon

Huh ? I live in Australia - it's rare for anyone to get shot here, and I've never heard of anyone being shot because of "The New World Order " .

I'd leave, and soon.

It wont be doing him much good, planning for the break down of society, as in getting all is weaponry etc. he will probably be a goner himself, along with everyone else, if any worse case scenarios happen. People like this, make for a miserable existence for everyone in the home, but they don't seem to care, when they have been taken over by these weird mindsets. And they are probably miserable in their own personalities too.

@Hawkins001

And "one way or another, we will have the one world order" besides it's the logical outcome for the advancement of the planet, especially when we "officially" make contact with other galaxies. We will need a unified world government.

One world order? We can’t even coordinate not all buying toilet roll and petrol at the same time? Which if you think about it creates the issue that the panickers were worried about in the first place. So honestly, the only thing that makes me think panickers preppers are right is that they themselves are creating the mass madness, not the disorganized governments and corporations they love to blame. Sometimes I think the worse pandemic is thickness not covid. Thickness is the sickness. 🤷‍♀️

Is this something that's happened suddenly or has it been gradually building up over time?
It definitely sounds like a mental health issue. Would he speak to a doctor? And more importantly do you feel safe?

My DH had a psychotic breakdown a few years ago and looking back the conspiracy theory type thinking had intensified before it happened. His was based on technological singularity and biblical end times rather than new world order though.

It came to a head and escalated very quickly over one weekend despite the slow build up - I always felt safe but was very scared during that time, and have been hyper-alert to any signs ever since.

Would he be willing to speak to a doctor do you think? Mine was, it was like he knew on some level that something wasn't quite right, even at the worst, when he thought I was the one against him and trying to stop what he believed to be right from happening (he blamed me for "getting him sectioned" for weeks when it was actually two social workers and a doctor who eventually made that decision!). If so, it won't always be like this and there is a way through.

If not, and if he doesn't think there is a problem - get out of there as fast as you can.

@ChaoBella

boy op you will be well pissed if you leave him and all his thoughts come true.

Yes, what a catch he is.

My BIL is a prepper - i'm not entirely sure what the crisis is he's expecting but he has an isolated farm and is fully self sufficient (water/generator etc) as well as food supplies etc- not sure what weapons he has - he talks about sealing off the farm with barbed wire and i think he has means of defence.
I don't think he has a mental health issue though- he is just obsessed and has too much time on his hands to read about this- and obviously he only reads stuff that reinforces his views so he gets more obsessed and convinced.
So it is possible that your DH is fine mentally - but its hard to tell - does it feel like paranoia or just conspiracy theory reinforced by living in an echo chamber. can he limit what he does- eg once he has this amount of food/tents etc he is fine and happy that he is prepared or will it just go on and on

There’s a world of difference in having a few extra supplies in the case of power cuts or natural disasters (dependent on where you live) and this.

Depending on where you are in Australia, police are absolutely using rubber bullets against lockdown and anti-mandatory vaccination protestors. This is unprecedented in Australia.

I don't recognise the police here anymore. There are many Australians who are deeply concerned about the rise of authoritarianism and the increasing militarisation of our police. Unfortunately, the media tends to paint us as 'fringe', 'neo Nazi' and 'far right', which is both tedious and terrifying.

This was taken last week just down the road from my house. The new look 'Public Order' squad in one of their cool new cars.

I was wondering about the shootings in Australia as well. What’s that all about?

I agree with the posts above - there’s a difference in being prepared for a snowy week, and being prepared for a zombie invasion. I always keep a few extra tins, some long life milk over winter etc, but never a crossbow. Would he know how to even use it?

@skeptile wow, that picture looks more like Afghanistan than Australia.

Standrewsschool last week there was a protest against vaccine mandates, and there is footage which I have seen taken from one of the high rise apartments surrounding the park where the police had herded the protestors (the surrounds of the Shrine of Remembrance, ironically), and officers are clearly 'hunting' fleeing protestors, and shooting at them with potentially lethal projectiles.

This is not the use of weapons against protestors for defensive purposes.

The failure of the mainstream media to hold the police to account for their actions during the pandemic is leading us to a very dark place.

The fact that there are Australians on this thread who know less about what's happening here than the OP's DH is alarming.

@BrendaBubbles

It depends to what extent he has gone. I do think people need to be more prepared for some serious problems in the next few years like food and fuel shortages but it shouldn’t be taking up more than a small portion of his time. I bought tons of food and household essentials in February 2020 and it was hugely beneficial when lockdown occurred so I am mildly sympathetic at least.

It’s good to be prepared but during the banking crash people weren’t running around with crossbows etc

It does sound serious and possible a mental health crisis. I agree with one of the other posters about writing to his GP and explaining about the weapons and his level of paranoia.

If he is trying to get hold of a gun he possibly now poses a huge risk to yourself and the public. I’m thinking of the awful events in Plymouth recently.

It is a terribly sad situation op

If you research fractional reserve banking ect, money itself is fiat currency, basically holds no value, where as there is actual value in gold, at least that's my understanding, however the knowledge is out there for further reading.

@Hawkins001
This is what you learn at about age 13 in the school system I was educated in. It's not esoteric knowledge known only to the privileged few who possess the secret of where to find it.

Yeah… just Googled it thanks and something proposed by some crack pots by the American military in the 60s that never actually took place has very little relevance to the ops situation on people in the U.K. in general!

That photo of the armoured police vehicle reminds me very much of Belfast, UK, in the 1970s and 80s.

Look up saxon armoured vehicle for examples.

@Tana433

Honestly, leave him to it. You might be grateful in a few months. Im not saying i believe in all that but the way the world is going it wouldnt surprise me at all. We would all benefit from being a bit more of the prepared mindset. Maybe not to this extreme but i dont think there is any harm in keeping it in your thoughts for future reference we dont know what is going to happen none of us possess a crystal ball do we?

When Covid started there were literally hundreds of thousands of people volunteering to help elderly and vulnerable. Our block of flats had a box for essentially anyone could add to and take from and another for swapping books. I sent care packages to my single friends living alone. If ‘society collapses’ on a gov level most people will be out helping each other not running around shooting each other with crossbows! It’s good to be prepared but despicable to be considering to kill other people for resources.

Look at an apocalyptic War zone like Syria, there is still The White Helmets, a group of volunteers who run emergency services for their fellow civilians.

@Hawkins001 I do know what goes on in their life as I had full access to their diary. For any avoidance of doubt, they 100% were not plotting to take over the world or any of the other bizarre conspiracies that we used to receive.

Don’t you think these people’s private staff know all about their lives, otherwise who is enacting this world take over.

I’ve never understood the preppers’ obsession with gold. It’s a shiny metal, you can’t eat it. It has value only because humans collectively agree that it does, exactly like fiat currency.