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My DH is obsessed with the New World Order

237 replies

Electri · 29/09/2021 19:29

I need help.

He's bought thousands of pounds worth of equipment - including a machete, an axe, a crossbow and a pellet gun. If he could buy a real gun legally in England he would. I wouldn't be surprised if he bought one illegally.

He's obsessed with the banking industry collapsing, the internet being taken out and power going down. He says the masses aren't prepared because they trust the government too much.

He doesn't talk about anything else. He watches videos all day long on how to "prepare" for what's to come. And stuff from the world economic forum/ mark moss.

He keeps taking about people being shot in Australia and how that will come over here soon.

WWYD?

OP posts:
Original poster
Electri · 29/09/2021 20:28

Thank you youve you have really hit the nail on the head there for me.

We have been together for a long time. I want to help him, but I don't want to be stuck in this never ending cycle of trying to dissuade him from talking about the end of society as we know it.

OP posts:
5329871e · 29/09/2021 20:28

I haven’t bought any kit, but I do sometimes wonder whether there will be a collapse of society… have considered getting a secret basement dug, with tins and weapons, but not seriously enough to do anything (yet).

2bazookas · 29/09/2021 20:29

Someone I know writes and sells "prepper" books telling people how to get ready for the breakdown of society, so that "when it comes" they are all ready to take off to survive in the wilds etc. How to wipe your bum with moss, light a fire without matches and barbecue a squirrel .... you get the picture. Urban warrior in camo jacket.

IRL he is the kind of helpless manchild/flabby couch potato who's never cooked a pork chop in the comfort of his domestic kitchen in his life.. that's womens work. He's latched onto the insecure, paranoid and inadequate and is exploiting them for gain.

Bellyups · 29/09/2021 20:33

Get him sectioned.

NatashaRf · 29/09/2021 20:37

Another vote for leave him OP.

This won't get better and weapons in the house isn't safe.

I'd leave and then contact the GP and let the authorities know that he has weapons and you're concerned for his mental stability.

alexdgr8 · 29/09/2021 20:44

avoid the lure of the rescuer persona.

elbea · 29/09/2021 20:57

I worked for a number of years for a person who is supposedly a main player in the New World Order, we used get emails and faxes all the time from people like your husband. I used to put them all into a big box under my desk in case anyone ever acted on their bizarre threats.

I’d be bloody amazed if he was masterminding some sort of world take over, I used to have to download pictures from his phone because he couldn’t figure it out.

MurielSpriggs · 29/09/2021 21:00

You've become sufficiently concerned to post about it, @Electri. But there is a risk that you're (very understandably) playing down what's going on here in your own mind.

In these situations we become like the frog in the pan of water that's slowly brought to the boil. Things change gradually for the worse, and we lose track of what's normal, and get a bit paralysed by inertia and become reluctant to take decisive action. For those of us looking in from outside who haven't slowly got acclimatised, the way he is behaving is worrying, and it sounds like it's only likely to get worse.

Livandme · 29/09/2021 21:19

The weapons worry me. The people I know with gun licences take their responsibility very seriously. Transporting in legal ways and storing securely.
This is a cause for concern. Please be careful

Hen2018 · 29/09/2021 21:32

He’s not going to do much with a pellet gun! The axe is more worrying.

I’d leave.

Sparklfairy · 29/09/2021 21:32

OP im so sorry you're going through this Sad he isn't well, and with weapons in the house I'd be worried he could have a psychotic break at any moment. Something relatively small could push him over the edge, particularly if he feels you're not "on side".

In your shoes, I would leave, and contact the police. Tell them what you've told us and they can hopefully direct you to getting him the help he needs.

But you must prioritise yourself and your safety.

Hen2018 · 29/09/2021 21:34

LOL at the poster above who wrote “have him sectioned”. Obviously that takes 2 opinions of highly qualified and experienced professionals...

mcmooberry · 29/09/2021 21:36

Oh Lord my husband is heading that way too. Our garage is full of tins of food and huge plastic bottles of water, he has turned all his money into gold (he seems to trust the vaults if not the banks) and he is talking about getting a wood burner and getting wood from the forest to heat the house. He also listens to podcasts endlessly which fuel the fire as it were. Of course I am the naive fool when I roll my eyes. No sign of hoarding weapons..... yet. Or I don't think so.

Hen2018 · 29/09/2021 21:38

On reflection, I would write/email your GP practice and the police in case your husband applies for a shotgun licence.

A pellet gun is nothing. You might sting someone a bit. You don’t want him to be able to access anything decent.

WithMyEncyclopedia · 29/09/2021 21:39

Please listen - it won't take much for him to decide you're not fully on board, and that will quickly turn into you being "against him". And he has weapons.
Please get out, safely, get help. Flowers

youvegottenminuteslynn · 29/09/2021 21:39

@Hen2018

He’s not going to do much with a pellet gun! The axe is more worrying.

I’d leave.

And a machete and a crossbow... it's disturbing, not harmless, not be hoarding those things.
youvegottenminuteslynn · 29/09/2021 21:40

That was meant to say:

And a machete and a crossbow... it's disturbing, not harmless, to be hoarding those things.

seriouslystressedoutmama · 29/09/2021 21:42

@youvegottenminuteslynn

He's hoarding weapons and has set himself up in an echo chamber, presumably with likeminded people online, so he wont to sense check any information he's getting - he will just be working on confirmation bias now so he will spiral into these views becoming more entrenched.

If he was hoarding weapons for any other reason, would you feel comfortable staying with him? I absolutely wouldn't. It would be madness.

Try to read your words back, objectively, and imagine you had a daughter or niece saying this about their partner:

He's bought thousands of pounds worth of equipment - including a machete, an axe, a crossbow and a pellet gun. If he could buy a real gun legally in England he would. I wouldn't be surprised if he bought one illegally.

What would you tell her to do? Do that.

If he's having a mental health crisis then yes he would benefit from professional support but that isn't your job, it's vanishingly unlikely he will engage willingly and you shouldn't have to do anything at the expense of your own safety.

A house where there are weapons and someone who isn't behaving rationally is not a safe place to be.

Women are not rehabilitation centres for men and you need to put your own life jacket on first.

I would leave, be somewhere safe and if you think you need to, call his GP surgery or the police for a welfare check. But he's unlikely to engage willingly and likely to be angry / see it as confirmation 'the system' is against him etc so I wouldn't want to do that while still in a relationship with him.

Thanks

This is wonderfully written. Get and stay safe op
Hen2018 · 29/09/2021 21:43

Indeed. But no reason to get aerated over a pellet gun. As I said, you need a paper trail quickly so it would be impossible for him to get a shotgun licence.

Mrbob · 29/09/2021 21:46

There is being prepared in case of sensible things like climate change and being a bit more self sufficient with solar panels etc.
That seems reasonable to me
Then there is thinking that there is a big conspiracy involving lizard people that requires weapons and being obsessed with it to the exclusion of normal life, causing harm to those around you and to your relationships. That’s NOT
reasonable. Donald bloody trump did not help with the crap being spread on the internet and this sub section of previously normal people who now believe in very strange things (I know of a couple in my sphere)
I am not sure at what point it becomes psychosis. Fixed delusional beliefs. I mean I could reassure him that no one is being shot in Australia at all and that it’s perfectly fine apart from our corrupt and moronic government but he wouldn’t believe me. Which is delusional and paranoid. But no you can’t fix this. You can ask for assistance for him but then I think you leave

Wizzbangfizz · 29/09/2021 21:46

What the hell, this isn't good and it will only get worse. You know what go do and if you can do it - choose how you want your life to be.

NoYOUbekind · 29/09/2021 21:47

You sound like a kind, caring person whose husband is having a mental health crisis. I would normally give lots of supportive advice like contacting GP, getting IRL support for yourself, giving him time, etc etc.

But he is stockpiling weapons. You are not safe. Would you willingly live with anyone else in any situation who had access to a motherfucking crossbow? I suspect you would not.

You need to leave and go to a place of safety. From there, you can choose whether or not to continue to support your DH. But you have to get to safety first.

Sarahlou63 · 29/09/2021 21:51

Leave. Don't tell him you're going or just say you're shopping - take your passport and other legal documents and a change of clothing. You need to go to the police and let them handle it. You have no way of knowing when, in his current mindset, you will go from being his wife to being the enemy.

Hawkins001 · 29/09/2021 21:53

@elbea

I worked for a number of years for a person who is supposedly a main player in the New World Order, we used get emails and faxes all the time from people like your husband. I used to put them all into a big box under my desk in case anyone ever acted on their bizarre threats.

I’d be bloody amazed if he was masterminding some sort of world take over, I used to have to download pictures from his phone because he couldn’t figure it out.

With that one, a person may seem inept in certain areas, but if the person mixes in the right circles, who's to say what groups he's apart of, or what he's responsible for, just because they may seem to need improvements in certain skills and areas, does not always follow that they cannot be apart of som e grand design for the future of x ect
Kendodd · 29/09/2021 21:55

Has anyone ever been successfully rescued from these QAnon cults?
If so, how?