My DH is obsessed with the New World Order

[Electri]

I need help.

He's bought thousands of pounds worth of equipment - including a machete, an axe, a crossbow and a pellet gun. If he could buy a real gun legally in England he would. I wouldn't be surprised if he bought one illegally.

He's obsessed with the banking industry collapsing, the internet being taken out and power going down. He says the masses aren't prepared because they trust the government too much.

He doesn't talk about anything else. He watches videos all day long on how to "prepare" for what's to come. And stuff from the world economic forum/ mark moss.

He keeps taking about people being shot in Australia and how that will come over here soon.

WWYD?

Please get yourself to safety and inform the authorities. He has a mental crisis and a crossbow.

I have a crossbow and pellet gun but purely out of target shooting interest. Carefully stored and never toys to be played with. I'm certainly aware of the responsibility of owning these things. Crossbows are legal. Pellet guns too. There are rules for owning both, hope the gun is two tone.
In this situation I'd be very concerned. Literally if you take either out on the street you're up against serious charges that have recently been pressed against people with imitation firearms near me.

OP, has he spoken to anyone else about this? Do other real life people know, not just internet people?

Honestly, leave him to it. You might be grateful in a few months. Im not saying i believe in all that but the way the world is going it wouldnt surprise me at all. We would all benefit from being a bit more of the prepared mindset. Maybe not to this extreme but i dont think there is any harm in keeping it in your thoughts for future reference we dont know what is going to happen none of us possess a crystal ball do we?

He sounds mentally unwell. I knew someone who developed this kind of paranoia and lack of grip on reality. They’re a great person and part of a circle of friends who really loved each other and trusted each other deeply. They still physically attacked enough of the rest of us for the whole group to cut contact, and they didn’t have access to weapons.

Get far away, then send help via GP/police.

Also, what kind of crossbow? Mine is tiny but in order to arm it I literally have to pull with my legs sitting on the floor. I was astonished by how hard and fast it could hit. Mine cost £12.99 and with aluminium bolts easily shoots 100ft. It shocked me and I didn't use it again until I had a proper target (wooden unit with rope wrapped around in order to be be able to take the impact). It could severely injure or kill a person at close range.

DP believes in NWO and I'm not so sure I don't disbelieve any more. He isn't at the extremes your DH is, he's just more aware of the possibilities if that makes sense. I guess time will tell and if the most recent year is anything to go by I'm honestly not sure where the level of people willing to give up their freedom so easily will lead us to. I don't actually have any advice for you but just wanted you to know you weren't alone by any means.

It can become almost like a hobby ( the whole prepped thing ) but the fact he is stockpiling weapons is a bit of a worry.

boy op you will be well pissed if you leave him and all his thoughts come true.

I know a few people like this (apart from buying the equipment, but I suspect that they would if they had the money).

I wouldn't consider them to be mentally unwell based on that though, they're still functioning fine, they are just very scared about the future.
I am sure that some people who believe in it probably are unwell or they will get there but believing in it and preparing is not in itself a sign of mental illness.

It's pretty basic stuff in social psychology, become part of a group and they all hype each others fears and opinions up, demonise the outgroup and so on. It works the same way the other way around, hatred for the anti-vaxxer, assumptions that they all believe in lizard people, talk of forced vaccinations etc. All that stuff just helps solidify the other groups opinions and worries!

Personally I am open minded and don't take the official stories as proof of anything. I don't take what I hear on the news as gospel. I wasn't vaccinated...but aside from that I don't let it ruin my life or live in fear or read about conspiracy theories.....but even though I'm open minded I couldn't live with a doomsday prepper type even if I wasn't scared for their mental health etc, I just couldn't deal with that negativity all day every day....and especially if you feel unsafe you can't stay with him!

I do think people should remember early 2020 though, none of us would ever have imagined that they would be living under such restrictions back then and then a few short months later...everything went mad!

Bloody hell I'm shocked that so many people are saying they've even heard of this kind of thing!
He's clearly lost the fucking plot and OP needs to get away from him ASAP.

Is there somewhere you can go and stay for a while? I think your safest bet is to get away from him for a bit and as PP have suggested, get in contact with his GP and police.

Even if it's not a mental illness causing him to do this, he's clearly stressed and highly anxious about it. You know it won't get better, he's only going to get worse. Get out before he does more harm to you.

I think it's quite a MN response to immediately think mental health crisis, phone the GP, get support etc. I also think that is quite a middle class, Middle England response.

At the risk of being shot down in flames, like the previous poster, I think there is currently quite a large minority of people who do feel unsure of the future and are looking for some kind of pro-active move to quell their own anxiety and gain some control in an uncontrolled world.
I really don't think that prepping per-se is a mental illness, much of it is in fact very prudent. Even owning an axe or a crossbow is legal and more common than some on here may think... only you OP know by how much this has all changed your husband and what his intentions for these weapons are! They may be indeed be nefarious and you are right to be concerned - have you discussed that with him?

And for balance - I am not a conspiracy theorist, I am double-vaxxed and I'm a middle-class, Middle Englander. I wouldn't trust this government to do the right thing by anybody but themselves though!

@Pebble21uk

I think it's quite a MN response to immediately think mental health crisis, phone the GP, get support etc. I also think that is quite a middle class, Middle England response.

At the risk of being shot down in flames, like the previous poster, I think there is currently quite a large minority of people who do feel unsure of the future and are looking for some kind of pro-active move to quell their own anxiety and gain some control in an uncontrolled world.
I really don't think that prepping per-se is a mental illness, much of it is in fact very prudent. Even owning an axe or a crossbow is legal and more common than some on here may think... only you OP know by how much this has all changed your husband and what his intentions for these weapons are! They may be indeed be nefarious and you are right to be concerned - have you discussed that with him?

And for balance - I am not a conspiracy theorist, I am double-vaxxed and I'm a middle-class, Middle Englander. I wouldn't trust this government to do the right thing by anybody but themselves though!

He doesn't talk about anything else. He watches videos all day long on how to "prepare" for what's to come.

This and the fact she thinks he's at the stage where she wouldn't be surprised if he was to illegally buy a gun sounds like he's moved well into obsessive / echo chamber territory.

@Tana433

Honestly, leave him to it. You might be grateful in a few months. Im not saying i believe in all that but the way the world is going it wouldnt surprise me at all. We would all benefit from being a bit more of the prepared mindset. Maybe not to this extreme but i dont think there is any harm in keeping it in your thoughts for future reference we dont know what is going to happen none of us possess a crystal ball do we?

Eh? He’s mentally unwell…with a crossbow.

And yes, I think we don’t need a crystal ball to be able to spot some potential problems here.

It is one thing to be prepared for possibilities in the future, e.g. having a store room of supplies. That sort of thing is quite sensible, in some places it is even encouraged by government emergency preparedness departments. It is also pretty normal to research who is in power and who benefits from political decisions

It is another thing entirely to believe a lot of New World Order theories (especially the anti-Semitic lizard conspiracies...). The most worrying part is the weapons stockpiling, that would really alarm me.

How does he have time to watch all these videos? Is this outside working hours or is he unemployed?

Does he speak about his beliefs with other friends and relatives?

@Electri have you seen the subreddit called QAnonCasualties? It is a sort of support page for people whose families or friends are wrapped up in the Q Anon conspiracy theory but has a lot of crossover with other people whose loves ones are fixated on other theories.

@mcmooberry

Oh Lord my husband is heading that way too. Our garage is full of tins of food and huge plastic bottles of water, he has turned all his money into gold (he seems to trust the vaults if not the banks) and he is talking about getting a wood burner and getting wood from the forest to heat the house. He also listens to podcasts endlessly which fuel the fire as it were. Of course I am the naive fool when I roll my eyes. No sign of hoarding weapons..... yet. Or I don't think so.

If you research fractional reserve banking ect, money itself is fiat currency, basically holds no value, where as there is actual value in gold, at least that's my understanding, however the knowledge is out there for further reading.

Also if your dp, had toilet paper and hand sanitizer stocked up, I'm guessing he would of been the neighbour to know so to speak.

@Hawkins001

Also if your dp, had toilet paper and hand sanitizer stocked up, I'm guessing he would of been the neighbour to know so to speak.

If he had axes and crossbows stocked up, he would be the neighbour to never make direct eye contact with and reconsider your house location. It’s not toilet paper.

My ex was into this kind of stuff 5 or 6 years ago. He never got round to hoarding weapons but he was spending all of his free time watching videos of stuff about New World Order, Bilderberg, Chemtrails and fuck knows what - then sending all his friends Word documents with links to these videos.
He also started building up a stockpile of tinned food and bottled water as well as gas canisters for camping cookers.
I think people should have emergency food supplies and the means to cook them as well as things like candles - I live somewhere where we were cut off from the outside world in all directions due to avalanches about 3 or 4 years ago. After 4 days the supermarket shelves in the area I live in were empty - so I tapped into ex's doomsday food supplies...

I don't know how or why he really got into all of this. All I know is that he does have mental health issues. And also at the time he'd been chasing after a woman who was a Seventh Day Adventist (even though he was living with me...) and I think she'd been trying to convert him and he'd got mixed up and confused with some of their beliefs and then the New World Order stuff on top.

All I can say now is, THANK FUCK, I am not with him any more and didn't have to live through the pandemic with him. Absolute fucking nightmare - he'd have been on about microchips and genetic therapy via vaccines to change our DNA and change us into something else and this was all the fruition of some plan cooked up at the Bilderberg meeting in 2018 or something.
Fucking hell.

OP, just dump him.

My apologies all, my comment about the toilet paper, was ment for mcmooberry

please leave op, with that weaponry in the house, keep yourself
safe x

You're a prisoner to his paranoia. Get the hell out of there and don't look back. You do not have to sacrifice your safety and want of a peaceful life for this man.

pellet guns can kill, though not intended so to do.
if someone is hit in the eye.
never mind if they are legal; why on earth would anyone want a crossbow, now they can easily kill.
if you want a sport, go to a range.
don't take the weaponry home with you.
OP, you may be too close to see the full picture.
get out.

This reminds me of Matthew Coleman. He's going to trial in November for killing his children with a spear gun because of some QAnon theories. Scary af.

Get out of there. As PP says, don't sacrifice your safety for this man's beliefs.