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DP drunkenly kissed his ex. Not sure if I can get past it all.

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ThoughtThingsWereGreat · 09/09/2021 14:10

This is long. It could definitely be shorter, but I just started writing and kept on going. So apologies for that.

At a very drunken house party at the weekend, DP (well, DFiancé to be precise) kissed and made out with his ex girlfriend of about seven years ago. I’d originally also been at the party, but had left before he did. I’ve always had a slight discomfort about how their relationship ended: I know that she cheated and then broke up with him, completely blindsiding him; and that it took him a very long time to get past her. I know that for a long time afterwards if she’d suggested trying again he’d have jumped at the chance. In the early stages of our relationship this niggled me; however, we’ve now been together over five years and so I’ve felt it was well in the past.

He told me what had happened as soon as he got home (and I do believe this was because he wanted to be honest; but ultimately have to acknowledge that he will also have known he had to tell me because mutual friends who saw him do it would certainly have fed back to me.) However, he also (which I know because I asked to see) sent her a message the following morning saying some lovely things about her (not a problem - I know that she was made redundant recently and has really been struggling with where to go next)… and then telling her that he still has mixed feelings for her.

I can deal with a one-off drunken kiss: we’ve all done stuff we regret when very drunk (although in alcohol’s defence, I’ve done a lot of very stupid stuff when completely sober as well!) and unlike an affair or other type of duplicitous cheating I’ve never felt it should automatically be the end of a relationship in itself. Also, I’m not the thought police, I’m sure many people still have some mixed feelings about an ex, what goes on inside his head in private isn’t something I need to know about, I can live, I think, with the idea that he still cares about her, to some level.

But it’s the combination of all of the things - having remaining feelings for an ex, kissing that ex, AND then telling her that he still has feelings for her - that I’m not sure I can move on from.

I can’t insist he never sees her again: we have a very large interinvolved social group of which she’s a part (I consider/ed her a friend, although not a close one) and I’m not going to become the sort of partner who tells him where he can go and monitors where he’s been, just in case she’s going to be there. And unless I avoid every single activity or party where she could potentially be, then also I’ll have to socialise with her sometimes knowing that she knows I’m in a relationship with her ex who still has feelings for her. Plus any other mutual friends she may have told. I don’t want her or anyone else feeling sorry for me (or gloating behind my back.) I think this is the bit I’m really struggling with. But also, I don’t want to end my relationship out of worry of what others might think or say.

I’ve asked him for some space to think. He’s said all the right things. It isn’t that I don’t believe him. It is, as I said above, the combination of three less than ideal points.

Can we move on from this? Or do I just end things now, to save myself a load of stress and worry in the future? Or is that actually the easy, lazy way out?

OP posts:
Mumoblue · 09/09/2021 14:13

It’s not easy or lazy to move on from a guy who clearly isn’t over his ex and who snogs other people when drunk - it’s called dodging a bullet!

Do you think he would be okay with you mooning over and snogging an ex? Do you think he would be agonising over how to be fair to you if you had cheated on him?

I probably say LTB on here too much but… LTB.

EllieSattler · 09/09/2021 14:14

Why would taking the easy way out be a bad thing? Why would choosing something hard be a good idea?

I would find it hard to marry a man who was still clearly pining for the ex. Honestly I think that if he was the man for you, he would love you enough to be satisfied with you and not still want her. I don't think you can fully trust him again, especially if she'll continue to be there on the sidelines.

1FootInTheRave · 09/09/2021 14:17

I couldn't get past this at all.

Tbh, I think if she wanted him back, he'd be gone like a shot.

Don't settle for being the back up choice.

Anordinarymum · 09/09/2021 14:17

What have the friends who witnessed the kissing said to you about it?

ThoughtThingsWereGreat · 09/09/2021 14:19

My sense is that our view is quite similar and that if it were the other way around he would, as I think I can, be able to get past the kiss and the knowing I still cared about my ex. I’m not sure how he’d feel about it if I actually admitted still having feelings to the ex.

I’m not trying to be fair to him. I’m wondering whether to turn my life upside down, sell my house, all that jazz that happens when a longish relationship ends, if there’s a way of getting past this.

OP posts:
SameToo · 09/09/2021 14:21

Bin him. He’s said he has mixed feelings for her. What if she responds with the same? Then where does it go?

workshy44 · 09/09/2021 14:22

She will always be number 1 to him. I think him sending that message was him fishing to see if she wanted him after the kiss
As the previous poster said, he would be gone like a shot if she wanted him back
I would never be anyone's second choice , it will eat away at you. Added to that, she is part of your social group so she will always be there lurking in the background
Think you are insane to even consider this to be honest
The fact that he did it in front of mutual friends say how much he wanted her and how little he cared that you would find out. That means he either doesn't care that much about you, or that he is so in love with her it was worth the risk for a kiss

Cocolapew · 09/09/2021 14:23

Why on earth would you stay with him? He kissed his ex, he has feelings for her and he was sober when he messaged her in the morning. Dump him.

Justmuddlingalong · 09/09/2021 14:24

I think you're putting off the inevitable shit show, when either insecurity, suspicion or infidelity ends the relationship.

TreeTed · 09/09/2021 14:25

The fact he would have left you for her through a lot of the relationship and messaged her again the following morning with complimentary things means sadly he will choose her not you. There is a difference between a quick kiss when saying goodbye, and making out with someone.
Sorry but for me, house sale or not, this would be over and I would want to be with someone who didn’t view me as second choice.

Morechocmorechoc · 09/09/2021 14:26

His feelings for her never went away. They won't because he sees her. You either need to move away somewhere else together so she's not there or you have to leave him.

Molly2021 · 09/09/2021 14:27

I'm sorry OP he is a POS and this isn't something I could move past, certainly not after 5 years of a relationship.

Not only did he cheat, but he also did it in front of everyone (including people you know). The whole situation is just so disrespectful on both of their parts.

It sucks to hear, but it sounds as though he would still very much jump if she told him to and if that's the case do you really want a boyfriend whose ex knows they have that power over them. No thank you. They are both taking the piss. You deserve better.

Aquamarine1029 · 09/09/2021 14:28

You would be daft to stay with this man, and downright insane to marry him. His heart doesn't belong to you, that much is clear. Let him go, immediately. This relationship is doomed to fail.

rogueone · 09/09/2021 14:28

If my OH kissed an ex and sent complimentary messages the following day and going on about having mixed feelings says it all really. You said yourself he would have went back to her before and he clearly would again. I would be mortified around the mutual friends who would have seen him cheat on you.

5yrs is a long time....i wouldnt waste my time on him. Your not his #1

MadisonMontgomery · 09/09/2021 14:29

I know we all do stupid things when we’re drunk, but there’s embarrassing dancing & then there’s cheating on your fiancé knowing she will find out. Ever heard the phrase ‘ in vinos veritas’? This smacks of that to me. End it now & move on.

romdowa · 09/09/2021 14:30

Personally I wouldn't be staying , he is treating you as second best. This guy would be gone like a shot if she wanted him back. Can you live your life like that? Knowing that you aren't his first choice? I'd rather be alone.

MimiSunshine · 09/09/2021 14:31

He text her the next morning? You’d think he’d be so mortified about his actions that he couldn’t bare to see her name.
Instead he sent her a nice message and also said he had mixed feelings for her.

He was fishing to see if she was opening the door to them getting back together.

I don’t think your relationship will ever fully recover from this as it’ll now always be there, those niggles you had will be hugely blown up, yourself worth deserves better

Shoxfordian · 09/09/2021 14:33

It sounds like he’s still into her
Don’t marry him as second best option

Pallisers · 09/09/2021 14:34

Being blunt, he would prefer to be with her. You are second best to him.
You will always know this deep down.

You deserve better than this. I'd drop him and move on.

bigbaggyeyes · 09/09/2021 14:37

If it was a drunken snog with a stranger I could probably get past it. A drunken smog with a woman who he's openly admitted to having feelings for? Nope that's a deal breaker for me. Your engaged this be married and he's got feeling fro someone else, sorry but there's no way I'd marry someone who's not 100% committed to me. No , you're not the thought police, but his thoughts do impact on you. If he's not sore then save yourself years of heartache and leave him. You're worth too much to be second choice

MiaRoma · 09/09/2021 14:37

You're second best for him. You always will be. I couldn't live like that. If you can, then yes, you can get past this.

EllieSattler · 09/09/2021 14:37

Imagine you marry him, and have two kids with him and no babysitter, and he goes to another party where she's there and you aren't. And he's fed up because you don't want sex much, and moaned because he didn't wash the baby's bottles or take out the bin with the shitty nappies. What do you think will happen then? I agree with @justmuddlingalong in that you're putting off the inevitable. It is hard now to split, but its as easy as its ever going to be.

OrlandointheWilderness · 09/09/2021 14:38

Leave him. Find someone who you will always be number 1 to. You are worth more than to be the reserve.

Fluffypastelslippers · 09/09/2021 14:38

Nah this would be the end for me. Why would you want to stay with him?

bigbaggyeyes · 09/09/2021 14:39

He has that little respect for you he's willing to cheat (yes kissing is cheating) in front of mutual friends. These people would be at your wedding!

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