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DP drunkenly kissed his ex. Not sure if I can get past it all.

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ThoughtThingsWereGreat · 09/09/2021 14:10

This is long. It could definitely be shorter, but I just started writing and kept on going. So apologies for that.

At a very drunken house party at the weekend, DP (well, DFiancé to be precise) kissed and made out with his ex girlfriend of about seven years ago. I’d originally also been at the party, but had left before he did. I’ve always had a slight discomfort about how their relationship ended: I know that she cheated and then broke up with him, completely blindsiding him; and that it took him a very long time to get past her. I know that for a long time afterwards if she’d suggested trying again he’d have jumped at the chance. In the early stages of our relationship this niggled me; however, we’ve now been together over five years and so I’ve felt it was well in the past.

He told me what had happened as soon as he got home (and I do believe this was because he wanted to be honest; but ultimately have to acknowledge that he will also have known he had to tell me because mutual friends who saw him do it would certainly have fed back to me.) However, he also (which I know because I asked to see) sent her a message the following morning saying some lovely things about her (not a problem - I know that she was made redundant recently and has really been struggling with where to go next)… and then telling her that he still has mixed feelings for her.

I can deal with a one-off drunken kiss: we’ve all done stuff we regret when very drunk (although in alcohol’s defence, I’ve done a lot of very stupid stuff when completely sober as well!) and unlike an affair or other type of duplicitous cheating I’ve never felt it should automatically be the end of a relationship in itself. Also, I’m not the thought police, I’m sure many people still have some mixed feelings about an ex, what goes on inside his head in private isn’t something I need to know about, I can live, I think, with the idea that he still cares about her, to some level.

But it’s the combination of all of the things - having remaining feelings for an ex, kissing that ex, AND then telling her that he still has feelings for her - that I’m not sure I can move on from.

I can’t insist he never sees her again: we have a very large interinvolved social group of which she’s a part (I consider/ed her a friend, although not a close one) and I’m not going to become the sort of partner who tells him where he can go and monitors where he’s been, just in case she’s going to be there. And unless I avoid every single activity or party where she could potentially be, then also I’ll have to socialise with her sometimes knowing that she knows I’m in a relationship with her ex who still has feelings for her. Plus any other mutual friends she may have told. I don’t want her or anyone else feeling sorry for me (or gloating behind my back.) I think this is the bit I’m really struggling with. But also, I don’t want to end my relationship out of worry of what others might think or say.

I’ve asked him for some space to think. He’s said all the right things. It isn’t that I don’t believe him. It is, as I said above, the combination of three less than ideal points.

Can we move on from this? Or do I just end things now, to save myself a load of stress and worry in the future? Or is that actually the easy, lazy way out?

OP posts:
Endoftheroad21 · 09/09/2021 14:41

@ThoughtThingsWereGreat it sounds from your post that you are already talking yourself into excusing what he did. I think there’s a difference between still having some sort of care for an ex to still having active feelings and kissing them. After 5 years of being with you he still risked it all to kiss this ex. Not only that … he did it at a party that you had also been at and in front of mutual friends. Then he followed it up with a message to her the next morning. That’s not something he did in the moment and instantly regretted. I think there definitely are things in relationships you can get through but cheating for me is not one of them.

GiveMyHeadPeaceffs · 09/09/2021 14:42

@MadisonMontgomery

I know we all do stupid things when we’re drunk, but there’s embarrassing dancing & then there’s cheating on your fiancé knowing she will find out. Ever heard the phrase ‘ in vinos veritas’? This smacks of that to me. End it now & move on.
I think this sums it up perfectly.
Ifyoudontlikeitdosomethingelse · 09/09/2021 14:42

I can see why you're in an absolute pickle.
How heart breaking for you.
It's the message about still having mixed feelings that's the worst.

It's so easy for me to say leave him.
Can you live with and marry a man who is tethering on the edge of being in love with his ex girlfriend?
Will he get therapy to help you both deal with this?
Will he cut her out of his life?
Will he never do this again?

Sounds like he wasn't really over her when you met. And still isn't now.

SimonedeBeauvoirscat · 09/09/2021 14:47

What exactly are all the ‘right things’ he’s said? Because sending a text to her telling her he has mixed feelings about her doesn’t sound as though he wants to be in a relationship with you at all.

Yes the upheaval of breaking up will be a pain. But for Christ’s sake don’t stay with him because you can’t face moving house!

TheWashingMachine · 09/09/2021 14:47

I know I'm in the minority but I've spent a lot of time with men over the years and I would just let it blow over. A huge number of men and they go on to have happy relationships. Marrying someone is a big deal and its normal to get cold feet. Hangovers always lead to mixed feelings, as he is marrying you and making a big commitment he might feel a bit scared even if he wants to do it.

I wouldn't do anything rash or over-analyse it.

BorderlineHappy · 09/09/2021 14:49

Can you marry a man knowing he doesn't love you the same way.
It will eat at you and you'll always be wondering.
Leave before you have kids.
Make a clean break let him have her.

You deserve better

Aquamarine1029 · 09/09/2021 14:49

As a pp said, this wasn't just a drunken peck, he texted her the next day to express how he still has feelings for her, while he's engaged to you.

How can you possibly stay with him after this?

HermioneKipper · 09/09/2021 14:55

Oh how awful OP. Poor you.

It really sounds like he wants her and would go back to her given the chance. I think the message the next day was fishing around to see how she felt after their snog. Otherwise surely it would have been “we’ve made a terrible mistake, I love my fiancée, this must never happen again”

Obviously it’s your life but I couldn’t stand being someone’s second choice when you’re planning to spend the rest of your lives together.

QueenFreesia2021 · 09/09/2021 14:57

I don’t think you can get passed this.

Unless you are both willing to up sticks and move / sever your ties with this group and this women. And even then that would be burying your heads in the sand.

She is not to blame (50/50), but she is also not your friend. A friend would not do this to you. Neither would a committed partner. Yes everyone makes mistakes, but I assume he is 16 - although “making out” at - party with people present who saw sounds like the kind of thing a 16 year old would do!!

If he had any remorse or any intention of not doing this again he would not have sent the message the following morning either.

It’s too messy - I guarantee if you stay you will find yourself in a situation very soon involving this same women - not saying he will necessarily cheat again but this won’t be the end of the drama.

If I did something as stupid as this and wanted to make a go of things with my partner I would not have done what your partner did in response.

QueenFreesia2021 · 09/09/2021 14:58

Ah type - I assume he isn’t 16!

Llamadog · 09/09/2021 15:03

Given the situation with your friendship groups she isn’t going away. Can you face this happening again in 5 or 10 years when you bit a rough patch or have small children? Watching them for signs every time they meet and knowing that all of your friends are doing so as well? This is a very painful situation but if you can’t trust someone before you’re married there’s no point in continuing.

Windmillwhirl · 09/09/2021 15:06

He's been with you 5 years and admits he has mixed feelings for her and kissed her. I could not get past that. I am sorry you are going through this x

AryaStarkWolf · 09/09/2021 15:07

Texting her the next morning when (presumably) sober isn't thinking about you and doing the right things. He can say whatever he wants but he did that while sober and after kissing her. Dump him, don't be the consolation prize

BrimfulOfBaba · 09/09/2021 15:12

I'm not sure I could get past the humiliation, especially around people I would have to see often.

His feelings for her were strong enough to make out with her at a party YOU, his partner of 5 years, had been at. In front of friends. I would not want to be around someone who thought little enough of me to do that.

Maze76 · 09/09/2021 15:14

No, I’m sorry but I think he still has feelings for the ex, and it sounds like she reciprocated - they made out. You will constantly be on edge, never comfortable or secure. Better to call time now, then set yourself up for future hurt.

SunburstsOrMarbleHalls · 09/09/2021 15:14

Totally agree with a PP who mentioned "In vino veritas" His truth is that he is still not over his ex. He wasn't drunk the next morning when he messaged her was he?

Dump him, don't allow yourself to be his second/reserve/back up choice for a moment longer.

AllyBama · 09/09/2021 15:16

I couldn’t get past this. As you say, it’s not just the drunken kiss - it’s the fact that he’s told her he still has feelings for her. I would feel absolutely humiliated.

And the fact that you both still see her socially makes it so much worse! How could you ever trust him again?

Is this really the life you’d hoped for? The best you think you can do?

Get out now while you still can OP, don’t live a life of regret.

TiredButDancing · 09/09/2021 15:16

While I think it's admirable when couples decide to try work through the problems created by someone cheating.... in this case I'm struggling to understand why you are considering it. And I have to wonder if you are so used to accepting less than the best that you can't see this for what it is....

he kissed someone else and did so in front of a whole lot of other people - ie he really really didn't care that you might find out and be hurt. Then, he told you he was sorry blah blah blah.... only to promptly text her to tell her he still has feelings for her?

You are the woman he is with because he can't have the other woman. I am 100% certain that if she responded to that text with, "I think we made a mistake breaking up and would like to give it another go" he'd be out the door so fast you wouldn't even feel the outside air coming in.

Also, I whole heartedly agree that you shouldn't be the thought police, dictate his friendships etc except that you sound like you're using language you're having to try and convince yourself. Or perhaps its language he's used while convincing (gaslighting) you into believing that your concerns are not valid.

katieg03 · 09/09/2021 15:17

He cheated, in front of people, your friends, he's disrespectful on a whole other level!! I just don't get after he's had his tongue and hands all over someone else you can get past it. I couldn't. He didn't consider you on his radar at all. He's keeping you as an option not a priority.

Notapheasantplucker · 09/09/2021 15:21

How could you trust him again after that?

hollyhocksarenotmessy · 09/09/2021 15:22

I am so sorry this shit has landed on you.

I don't think he is 100% committed to you. If he were, he wouldn't snog another woman, (humiliating in front of friends as well), and wouldn't still have feelings for his ex.

Don't marry anyone who isn't 100%about you.

pecanmix · 09/09/2021 15:23

Don't gaslight yourself in to staying

DoesHePlayTheFiddle · 09/09/2021 15:25

Straightforward, isn't it? He cheated on you with her, with an audience. Everyone knows he likes her more than he likes you. The only way to salvage even a tiny bit of dignity in this situation is to tell him to get tae fuck.

NoYOUbekind · 09/09/2021 15:26

I do get that we're all faceless people on the internet. I do get that we probably all say LTB too easily - it's not our lives we're uprooting after all.

But even so lass, you'll never be able to move past this. You know that if she so much as crooks her finger, he'll come running. You know you'll see her over his shoulder during the first dance at your wedding, and all your friends will see you noticing her and will remember 'that' night. You know you'll never be able to leave a night out early again in case it happens again too.

That's no way to live, it will eat you up from the inside out and it will turn you from your sane, easygoing and realistic self into a jealous monster. This will ruin your relationship and I think it could ruin you too. Don't be his second choice. Sorry.

zenthoughtsonlythanks · 09/09/2021 15:27

This would definitely be the end for me too. The text would be the deciding factor. He wants to be with her op. I am sorry. You actually deserve to be treasured and loved, and not this second best to anyone.

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