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DP drunkenly kissed his ex. Not sure if I can get past it all.

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ThoughtThingsWereGreat · 09/09/2021 14:10

This is long. It could definitely be shorter, but I just started writing and kept on going. So apologies for that.

At a very drunken house party at the weekend, DP (well, DFiancé to be precise) kissed and made out with his ex girlfriend of about seven years ago. I’d originally also been at the party, but had left before he did. I’ve always had a slight discomfort about how their relationship ended: I know that she cheated and then broke up with him, completely blindsiding him; and that it took him a very long time to get past her. I know that for a long time afterwards if she’d suggested trying again he’d have jumped at the chance. In the early stages of our relationship this niggled me; however, we’ve now been together over five years and so I’ve felt it was well in the past.

He told me what had happened as soon as he got home (and I do believe this was because he wanted to be honest; but ultimately have to acknowledge that he will also have known he had to tell me because mutual friends who saw him do it would certainly have fed back to me.) However, he also (which I know because I asked to see) sent her a message the following morning saying some lovely things about her (not a problem - I know that she was made redundant recently and has really been struggling with where to go next)… and then telling her that he still has mixed feelings for her.

I can deal with a one-off drunken kiss: we’ve all done stuff we regret when very drunk (although in alcohol’s defence, I’ve done a lot of very stupid stuff when completely sober as well!) and unlike an affair or other type of duplicitous cheating I’ve never felt it should automatically be the end of a relationship in itself. Also, I’m not the thought police, I’m sure many people still have some mixed feelings about an ex, what goes on inside his head in private isn’t something I need to know about, I can live, I think, with the idea that he still cares about her, to some level.

But it’s the combination of all of the things - having remaining feelings for an ex, kissing that ex, AND then telling her that he still has feelings for her - that I’m not sure I can move on from.

I can’t insist he never sees her again: we have a very large interinvolved social group of which she’s a part (I consider/ed her a friend, although not a close one) and I’m not going to become the sort of partner who tells him where he can go and monitors where he’s been, just in case she’s going to be there. And unless I avoid every single activity or party where she could potentially be, then also I’ll have to socialise with her sometimes knowing that she knows I’m in a relationship with her ex who still has feelings for her. Plus any other mutual friends she may have told. I don’t want her or anyone else feeling sorry for me (or gloating behind my back.) I think this is the bit I’m really struggling with. But also, I don’t want to end my relationship out of worry of what others might think or say.

I’ve asked him for some space to think. He’s said all the right things. It isn’t that I don’t believe him. It is, as I said above, the combination of three less than ideal points.

Can we move on from this? Or do I just end things now, to save myself a load of stress and worry in the future? Or is that actually the easy, lazy way out?

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Bluntness100 · 09/09/2021 22:12

I think your only options are to keep your fingers crossed she doesn't want him back, or take control and end it with him

Yeah but to live like that. Knowing your partner doesn’t really want you he wants someone else. And knowing everyone else knows it too.

There’s not many people could stomach that.

altiara · 09/09/2021 22:19

The only way to get past it is to accept being second best and being ready that the ex might crook her finger and he’ll go running off back to her.
That’s no way to live.

5128gap · 09/09/2021 22:46

@Bluntness100

I think your only options are to keep your fingers crossed she doesn't want him back, or take control and end it with him

Yeah but to live like that. Knowing your partner doesn’t really want you he wants someone else. And knowing everyone else knows it too.

There’s not many people could stomach that.

I agree. It wouldn't be for me. But I suspect if the OP stays she won't see it that way. She would tell herself it was a one off drunken mistake that she chose to forgive. He will reinforce that by saying the right things, because I'm sure he is quite happy to have OP if his ex won't have him. And all will be well, unless his ex changes her mind.
timeisnotaline · 09/09/2021 23:27

Have you said I suppose I feel like you did when she cheated on you, with the difference being you’ve probably still been in love with her all the years since you were together and happy to kiss with a bunch of people who know me watching on. Did she shag the other guy in front of your friends too?

Staying would be second best.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 09/09/2021 23:50

When is he meeting up with her for a shag?

He couldn't do it at the party as all your mutual friends were there. So he's messaged her sober the next day to let her know that he is still very much into her.

Minimising this will bring you nothing but pain OP

He's a shit
And you deserve better

Fleshmechanic · 09/09/2021 23:57

It's hard but I think you're wasting your time with him. I think it would be better to end it now than in another 5 or 10 years after another slip up. He clearly pines for her and whether or not he's going to be with her again means little. You deserve to be someone's number one, with no one else on their mind. I think now is a good time to exit before you say you forgive him and make anymore excuses.

MsDogLady · 10/09/2021 00:03

You are rationalizing and minimizing your Fiancé’s physical and emotional infidelity.

He and his Ex took advantage of your absence to have a public make-out session, unabashedly signaling to each other and your friends that their spark is still alive. Hours later he reached out to her by playing her White Knight, complimenting her, and admitting his feelings.

He wants her back and she knows it.

Why on earth would you cling to an unequal relationship with this disloyal loser who has devalued and humiliated you…who will toss you away like a used Kleenex for another chance with her. These are despicable people. Leave them to it and walk away with your dignity. Flowers

trevthecat · 10/09/2021 05:42

She's the one that got away, only she's back as an option. Given the ch5, he will chose her. Leave now

Mhc19 · 10/09/2021 05:43

I think a huge red flag is, why did he tell her he still has feelings for her? What did he hope to achieve by doing this? Is it because he hoped she'd say she does too? Or something innocent(?).

JudyGemstone · 10/09/2021 06:51

@GreyhoundG1rl

If he leaves you or you dump him and he gets back with her it will be a massive mistake he will come to regret sooner or later. Well, I'm not sure what the logic is there Confused
More experience and intuition than logic. She only wanted him when she was at a low point.
TatianaBis · 10/09/2021 06:54

@Mhc19

I think a huge red flag is, why did he tell her he still has feelings for her? What did he hope to achieve by doing this? Is it because he hoped she'd say she does too? Or something innocent(?).
What if she has said she did? Would OP still be in a relationship at this point?
FreeBritnee · 10/09/2021 06:59

He’s obviously still in love with her and you are his rebound. So let him go and get his hands burnt twice with her.

lettgomoveon · 10/09/2021 07:09

Nope, don't put yourself through it. End it, otherwise you are basically giving him the green light to do it again. Have some self respect and walk. Or at least take a huge break before any next steps.

tootiredtospeak · 10/09/2021 07:10

It doesn't sound like you have kids so it wont be that hard to seperate houses are just brick and mortar. You sound very calm and reasonable but it will eat at you over time. I dont think you will be able to shake it whilst she is still in your lives. What if she replies to the text saying she has feelings too what do you honestly think he would do.

minmooch · 10/09/2021 10:26

The amount of women who are willing to overlook/accept/excuse shitty behaviour from their partners is depressing.

We all only get one life. Make sure it is one filled with those who treat you with respect.

To err is human. But to excuse/accept/overlook shitty behaviour/cheating/disrespect is plain stupid and setting yourself up for a lifetime of misery.

fruitbrewhaha · 10/09/2021 10:45

Are you still with us OP?

Sorry it must be hard reading all these replies. No one thinks it's easy to sack off 5 years, and an engagement. It's much easier for us to all write it. Have you got someone you can talk to? You can continue to chat here if you want, if it helps.

ChargingBuck · 10/09/2021 10:52

Rarely, even on MN, have I read something so simultaneously self-involved & totally unaware:

I am a terrible horny idiot when drunk on champagne and getting chatted up. That is my idiocy and it happened 3 times - I didn't learn, I am a real fool. But I love my partner very much and none of it was any threat to what I have with him.

It was no threat to you, because you were clearly ready to risk your relationship for the sake of being chatted up & flirted with.

Your partner didn't take that risk. He just had to deal with the sadness of betrayal, & decide whether you were worth sticking with.
Three times.

Maybe he's a doormat.
Or maybe one day he'll realise one day that your breezy "oh but is doesn't mean anything, it's no threat to my relationship" is bullshit, & dump your shallow arse, when you "can't help yourself" a 4th time.

Youknownothingsnow · 10/09/2021 11:24

I couldn’t live with this.

She cheated on him and now he’s cheated on you with her. Absolutely zero tolerance for this. You sound like a loyal partner and he’s happy to betray you for some sordid excitement. No way would I be playing second fiddle to this.

Mary1Mary · 10/09/2021 11:48

The fact this happened in front of mutual friends is really disrespectful and awful.

In my experience cheaters who confess don't want forgiving. They want out.

Molly2021 · 10/09/2021 12:22

Hope you are OK @ThoughtThingsWereGreat Flowers

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