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DP drunkenly kissed his ex. Not sure if I can get past it all.

170 replies

ThoughtThingsWereGreat · 09/09/2021 14:10

This is long. It could definitely be shorter, but I just started writing and kept on going. So apologies for that.

At a very drunken house party at the weekend, DP (well, DFiancé to be precise) kissed and made out with his ex girlfriend of about seven years ago. I’d originally also been at the party, but had left before he did. I’ve always had a slight discomfort about how their relationship ended: I know that she cheated and then broke up with him, completely blindsiding him; and that it took him a very long time to get past her. I know that for a long time afterwards if she’d suggested trying again he’d have jumped at the chance. In the early stages of our relationship this niggled me; however, we’ve now been together over five years and so I’ve felt it was well in the past.

He told me what had happened as soon as he got home (and I do believe this was because he wanted to be honest; but ultimately have to acknowledge that he will also have known he had to tell me because mutual friends who saw him do it would certainly have fed back to me.) However, he also (which I know because I asked to see) sent her a message the following morning saying some lovely things about her (not a problem - I know that she was made redundant recently and has really been struggling with where to go next)… and then telling her that he still has mixed feelings for her.

I can deal with a one-off drunken kiss: we’ve all done stuff we regret when very drunk (although in alcohol’s defence, I’ve done a lot of very stupid stuff when completely sober as well!) and unlike an affair or other type of duplicitous cheating I’ve never felt it should automatically be the end of a relationship in itself. Also, I’m not the thought police, I’m sure many people still have some mixed feelings about an ex, what goes on inside his head in private isn’t something I need to know about, I can live, I think, with the idea that he still cares about her, to some level.

But it’s the combination of all of the things - having remaining feelings for an ex, kissing that ex, AND then telling her that he still has feelings for her - that I’m not sure I can move on from.

I can’t insist he never sees her again: we have a very large interinvolved social group of which she’s a part (I consider/ed her a friend, although not a close one) and I’m not going to become the sort of partner who tells him where he can go and monitors where he’s been, just in case she’s going to be there. And unless I avoid every single activity or party where she could potentially be, then also I’ll have to socialise with her sometimes knowing that she knows I’m in a relationship with her ex who still has feelings for her. Plus any other mutual friends she may have told. I don’t want her or anyone else feeling sorry for me (or gloating behind my back.) I think this is the bit I’m really struggling with. But also, I don’t want to end my relationship out of worry of what others might think or say.

I’ve asked him for some space to think. He’s said all the right things. It isn’t that I don’t believe him. It is, as I said above, the combination of three less than ideal points.

Can we move on from this? Or do I just end things now, to save myself a load of stress and worry in the future? Or is that actually the easy, lazy way out?

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lockdownalli · 09/09/2021 17:33

Obviously it's up to you, but no, I could not get past this. I would never trust him again, and for me, no trust = no relationship

Rach888 · 09/09/2021 17:38

He put the final nail in the coffin when he messaged her the following morning. That’s not a drunken mistake. For your own sanity you need to leave him.

It’s never an easy time to end a long term relationship but I promise you this - right now is the easiest it is ever going to be.

EmbarrassingMama · 09/09/2021 17:40

I don't think the administrative ballache that is selling a joint property should be the reason to stay.

He sounds like an arsehole.

SpilltheTea · 09/09/2021 17:45

It's not even a drunken mistake because he messaged her in the morning to tell her he has feelings for her. You'd be an absolute mug to stay with him. So what if you have to sell your house? That's better than sticking around wasting your time with someone who wants their ex. It's not going to end well.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/09/2021 17:45

@WoolyMammoth55

OP I haven't RTFT but want to say that I'm a woman who has a few drunken make-out mistakes under my belt that my male DP has forgiven and got over.

I'm so glad he forgave me because we have a good marriage, lovely life, and now (many years later!) 2 fantastic kids.

I get that you feel the combination of things is tough to get over. You're not wrong, it is a tough combo and in fairness none of my indiscretions were a direct parallel. But please TALK TO YOUR DP before you decide what to do. Find out if he is really sorry, if he's really in it for the long-haul with you despite his mistake.

I am a terrible horny idiot when drunk on champagne and getting chatted up. That is my idiocy and it happened 3 times - I didn't learn, I am a real fool. But I love my partner very much and none of it was any threat to what I have with him.

So just going to put my vote out there for you to please find out what's really going on with him before you walk away. I'm so glad my DH did.

Three times?

He must have felt really shit the second time and monumentally shit the third time.

You're lucky he seems able to get past it, I hope he genuinely is and isn't just pretending because he wishes he could get past it.

Islamorada · 09/09/2021 17:48

No, poor you! You have to move on. Yes, sell and go. What a waste of time but do not stay as a second best.

Lily019 · 09/09/2021 17:49

Sadly he has shown his true colours. He cant help how he feels and acts (when under the unfluence) and you would have to live with him knowing that. Ive given guys 'second chances' on the back of similar behaviour and I have inevitably ended up being the loser. Im so sorry, this hurts like nothing else I know.

GreyhoundG1rl · 09/09/2021 17:52

So just going to put my vote out there for you to please find out what's really going on with him before you walk away. I'm so glad my DH did.
So what was really going on? Three times Confused

Eviebeans · 09/09/2021 18:02

On the practical side of things do you own or rent the property you live in?

RantyAunty · 09/09/2021 18:12

It wasn't a mistake though and he's clearly not sorry.

Sure he came home and told you but only because he did it in front of everyone else and someone would have told you.

Then the next morning he tell her he has feelings for her.

It sounds like you're trying to talk yourself into staying with him.

Eviebeans · 09/09/2021 18:21

I guess he only told you as he knew you'd find out. In general I think it's a real weakness when men confess to doing something like this "at least I was honest with you". It's not being honest it's passing their own guilt feelings off onto their partner.

LemonViolet · 09/09/2021 18:28

OP I’m guessing you might not reply further because overwhelmingly you are getting replies that you don’t really want to hear. I think you’ve already made up your mind to stay and posted this looking for reassurance about that decision and hoping for validation and success stories from others. I’m guessing you’re all still quite young as well perhaps late 20s? Sorry you’re not going to get lots of stories of happy ever after following partners publicly cheating with their exes.

Listen to the women on here who are older and BTDT. At your age and life stage I would have stuck with him too, and it would have been the wrong decision. Honestly it is naïve, idealistic and avoidant, and just trying to not have to experience the heartbreak and massive life shift of the breakup, house move etc - quite frankly most people reading this as uninvolved observers will see that heartbreak is inevitable in this situation. He loves someone else. He’s too chickenshit to end things with you, and is setting you up to be the bad guy and end things with him due to his appalling behaviour.

My advice is to bite the bullet, eat the frog, rip off the bandaid, and end things with him, move on with your life now whilst you are younger and have plenty of time to set up a new life, meet a new partner etc. I think you won’t, I think you’ll stick with him for the time being. But please do not marry him. And be kind to yourself because this is a shit situation you’re in and it’s not your fault.

CinnamonJellyBeans · 09/09/2021 18:30

Sorry, I was a bit unclear. I don't mean that he should hide his indiscretion and subsequent attempt to get back with the ex.

What i meant was the OP has always known he has "settled" for her and he would prefer his ex. He hasn't let the OP feel she is the "one" by hiding his feelings for the ex, like a decent person would.

CurlyWurlyTwos · 09/09/2021 18:44

Piling in.

I would make it clear that it is over OP, for ALL reasons previous posters have said.

It sounds like he has unresolved feelings for this woman.

You should make the first decisive decision to end your relationship - and he what his next move is.

He might go back to his ex immediately (or least 'explore' his feelings) OR realise that he's made a huge mistake and BEG you to forgive him.

Either way, you'll find out how who he really wants.

What does your gut say he would do?

Trust it.

CurlyWurlyTwos · 09/09/2021 18:46

To add - I think you deserve so much better than this!

WhyOhWhyOhWhyyyy · 09/09/2021 18:47

It’s the message the next morning that’s the real kicker isn’t it, shows a total lack of remorse.

Imagine you marry him, and have two kids with him and no babysitter, and he goes to another party where she's there and you aren't. And he's fed up because you don't want sex much, and moaned because he didn't wash the baby's bottles or take out the bin with the shitty nappies. What do you think will happen then? I agree with @justmuddlingalong in that you're putting off the inevitable. It is hard now to split, but its as easy as its ever going to be.*

Also, this really resonated with me. If you plan to marry and have children with this man, you’re going to go through some challenging times in life, if this is how he is acting now how can you trust him to remain solid when things get tough. You can’t.

Sandybeachtowel · 09/09/2021 18:51

You are very clearly, blatantly second best.
He’s in love with her but can’t get past the cheating, so he’s with you…and yes he may love you and respect you enough to be honest but if he’s telling her and you that he has mixed feelings, believe me it’s way more than you could imagine. He’s in love with her, can’t get over her and he’s still in touch with her!
For god sake, find your self worth and self respect and leave him to it.
Your a prize, why settle for second best!?

nomoneytreehere · 09/09/2021 18:51

Fuck that op. Don't be a doormat. How humiliating for you.

Bluntness100 · 09/09/2021 19:00

Basically you want to brush it under the carpet and stay with a man who sees you as second best as it’s easier,,and your concern is as everyone else knows how he feels it’s shameful for you. She knows, all your joint mates know ans will pity you and loose respect becayse of it.

It’s going to eat you up. If she snaps her fingers he is gone and you know it. She is the one he wants to be with.

I think you need to end it and let him go back to her, as ultimately I’m sorry but that’s where he is going, it’s just a case of when.

MorriseysGladioli · 09/09/2021 19:07

I can understand not wanting to say it is totally unacceptable.
Once the genie is out of that bottle, it'll never go back in.

Confusedandshaken · 09/09/2021 19:07

Sell the house and move on. It's clearly going to happen sooner or later so do it now rather than hanging round.

Closetbeanmuncher · 09/09/2021 19:18

I think you're putting off the inevitable shit show, when either insecurity, suspicion or infidelity ends the relationship

I agree with this I'm afraid, the message after and shared social group hammered the nail in the coffin for me.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 09/09/2021 20:16

@WoolyMammoth55

OP I haven't RTFT but want to say that I'm a woman who has a few drunken make-out mistakes under my belt that my male DP has forgiven and got over.

I'm so glad he forgave me because we have a good marriage, lovely life, and now (many years later!) 2 fantastic kids.

I get that you feel the combination of things is tough to get over. You're not wrong, it is a tough combo and in fairness none of my indiscretions were a direct parallel. But please TALK TO YOUR DP before you decide what to do. Find out if he is really sorry, if he's really in it for the long-haul with you despite his mistake.

I am a terrible horny idiot when drunk on champagne and getting chatted up. That is my idiocy and it happened 3 times - I didn't learn, I am a real fool. But I love my partner very much and none of it was any threat to what I have with him.

So just going to put my vote out there for you to please find out what's really going on with him before you walk away. I'm so glad my DH did.

If you were a man making these pathetic excuses for your behaviour you'd have your arse handed to you.

I don't believe that you love your partner, there's no way you would have cheated on him three times if you did. Have you stopped drinking alcohol completely? That should have been a no-brainer after the first time.

What I think you actually did there was negate a boundary and, if he ever finds somebody that he finds alluring, you may find you get a taste of your own medicine.

We do all make errors of judgement sometimes, I've just not read anything so navel-gazey and self-forgiving before.

KatherineJaneway · 09/09/2021 22:01

I suspect he wouldn't have told you about the kiss and making out if he knew he hadn't been seen. In fact it was awful he did that when he could be seen, he just didn't give a shit.

Personally I couldn't be with a man who was so in love with someone else that he'd do this. If she crooked her little finger he'd go running. It would be a deal breaker for me.

5128gap · 09/09/2021 22:09

I'm sorry OP, but I'm not sure you will get the choice whether to move past it or not. At the first opportunity he betrayed you for his ex. He wasn't discrete, he knew you would find out, but wanted to do it badly enough that he did it anyway. He wasn't full of remorse and thinking of you the next day, his thoughts were of her and messaging her.I think he would go back to her in a heartbeat if he could, and so the decision as to whether your relationship stands a chance lies very much in her hands. I think your only options are to keep your fingers crossed she doesn't want him back, or take control and end it with him.