[quote FTEngineerM]@AhNowTed you couldn’t possibly lead a team of men, it’s not possible, please retreat into the safe submissive inferior role.
@Itsnotover you are correct, I have well almost, I will in a week or so two sons. My mentality hasn’t changed though, since of course the last ‘first date’ I had was with their father a long time ago. Actually that reminds me, I was and still am incredibly stubborn and head strong, it’s something he finds attractive in a woman and why were a good match. We earned the same when we met (net), now he earns 2.5 times (gross) what I do actually I’m on mat leave so it’s closer to 10 times at the minute but the dynamic hasn’t changed one iota.
I think we’re getting of topic a bit, the question is explicitly about first dates, not when you’re ‘in love’ that comes way after.
It’s interesting to hear so many with ‘small delicate woman’ views yet also complaining about the inequalities. I have never acted like the ‘small delicate woman’ and I’ve never been treated as one, I don’t think those things aren’t connected but I agree a sample size of 1 isn’t great data. I don’t think someone would be interested in me if they were the dominant type, they would and have found me incredibly frustrating.
Why have you got the impression I am being pressured by society @dontwantausername ? Sometimes I choose where to go, sometimes I don’t, since we’re only talking about first dates then I think it’s about equal at the moment in whether I chose or not. I only ever accepted if it were somewhere familiar and safe. I don’t like the idea that women just exist and do as men say, which is what you’re describing. Me and all the women in my family are quite happy doing as we please, not one relies on a man. They are free to leave, they are free to stay, there is no violence, there is no mental abuse. They have funds available because they work, the men they spend time with or choose to marry are all just because they enjoy their company. Not because they’re incapable of managing life themselves (essentially what I see when I read what you say about life being easier when you don’t have to decide where to eat and how you’re going to pay for it).
Sex without commitment, great if you don’t want commitment. I don’t see the problem here?
@Wrapitupgood I agree with you about the wealth imbalance and therefore who pays. If I’d like to eat at a nice restaurant and my friend says they can’t afford that, I would offer to cover their bill so that we could enjoy that place/time. I extend that to partners too, but not first dates, which we’re discussing here. They are the same in return.
@idontknowwhyiamasking what happens if someone finds men sexually attractive? Do we live a life without sex?[/quote]
Yes.